Arkangilos Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 They don't die guys, so far prophecies have come true. Basically, as per Dante, they lose Baal, fall back to Terra, and at the least hold off a threat to Terra. I have the feeling that they will retake Baal with the Primaris Marines, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4742811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just why you think it's hyperbole is beyond me. If I were recruited into a company to save it from a the brink of imminent death following the guidance of a score of old farts, and pulled it off, my first order of business would be to call the board and have them all fired and replaced. By me. I mean, come on. The whole BA legion can't pull off a win but the Primaris come in at the last minute, wipe the floor with the Tyranids and Daemons and then bow to Dante, who lost despite commanding basically a full legion, and only lives because the Primaris intervened? Is there greater hyperbole than *this*? But of course, since it makes no sense it's probably how things will roll in the new Wardian fluff. We will probably recruit Necrons to breed Primaris marines in the next codex. What do you mean despite having a full legion? They don't even have more than a thousand at Baal (and that's including other chapters that managed to make it) Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4742818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 The new guys are also just models at the end of the day. I bet we'll see them used a lot with normal Space Marines rules, but "true-scale" models. I think it'll go both ways: We'll see folks buying and painting the new kits to have larger true-scale models, but playing them with the rules of their "basic" Chapter units (i.e. old Marines), and then we'll also see folks using the models they already have, but using them as counts-as Primaris Marines, to try out the new units and better stats. And both of these approaches will be just fine. V CaptainHelion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4742966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I get the 'let people have their fun' stance [regarding Numarines]... my comment to that however is; this new 8th edition is different than past editions. It has the hopes of every 40k player, new and old, for the first actual "Balanced" version of the game; it's what people asked for, it's what they promised to deliver and as a Blood Angels player (who's played every edition) we've only seen brief moments of 'balance' in our codex... what NOBODY has asked for - was a new breed of Space Marines, better than the last - not from a fluff or narrative perspective, and with exceptions to the Truescale crowd, not from a modeling perspective either. So everything will hopefully work out fine and nice and balanced, as promised (despite GW's terrible track record)... but before any mention of how certain weaker codex (like Blood Angels) will fair - we get super marines that nobody asked for; does this mean they aren't actually listening? ...and that's really what I'd like to know. I can only view through a 7th-Ed-Lense at this point, but so far it looks like Eldar and Tau are just as good if not stronger in the new edition and that could be quite disappointing in my meta (or most) as well. I think also, from a modeling perspective, if you are mixing and matching or Truescaling etc... this will get quite confusing as the new marines are actually different rules wise now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) From today's article: Amongst the besieged Imperial worlds in this Dark Imperium are many Space Marine Chapter Planets, including Baal, home of the Blood Angels. Things were already looking pretty grim for the sons of Sanguinius, with a hive fleet closing in on them, and now it looks even bleaker. Cut off from the light of Terra, the Angels and their Successors stand against the might of Hive Fleet Leviathan, hoping they can withstand the storm. Yipes, the Blood Angels sound like they are in trouble. This isn’t the first time they have triumphed against impossible odds though, can they make it out alive? We’ll have to see. Don't know why formatting on this site is so weird, but hey look! They're talking about Baal like there's a chance of survival. Edited May 16, 2017 by NTaW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Geez whenever GW mentions Blood Angels in one of their articles these days it sounds like they are going to squat them even tho they keep telling us that all the armies will be there in 8th. Stop playing with my feelings, GW! Bartali and vahouth 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Geez whenever GW mentions Blood Angels in one of their articles these days it sounds like they are going to squat them even tho they keep telling us that all the armies will be there in 8th. Stop playing with my feelings, GW! Gives me the vapors! Literally me: http://vader.fr/bilbringif/Albums/Internet/soGoodYes_McMahon.gif Edited May 16, 2017 by Spagunk Grazcruzk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Geez whenever GW mentions Blood Angels in one of their articles these days it sounds like they are going to squat them even tho they keep telling us that all the armies will be there in 8th. Stop playing with my feelings, GW! Gives me the vapors! Literally me: http://vader.fr/bilbringif/Albums/Internet/soGoodYes_McMahon.gif You are on drugs? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda_Saurus_Rex Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Geez whenever GW mentions Blood Angels in one of their articles these days it sounds like they are going to squat them even tho they keep telling us that all the armies will be there in 8th. Stop playing with my feelings, GW! Gives me the vapors! Literally me: http://vader.fr/bilbringif/Albums/Internet/soGoodYes_McMahon.gif You are on drugs? .....are you not?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimm Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Space Jesus returns, saves the day vs the nids then reveals the emp sacrificed him to win back horus. The BA go bananas and split to forge there own empire and take the fight to chaos. The lion comes back and joins them and the angels of death return... I wish! Dolchiate Remembrancer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 The old pessimist in me can't help feeling this is going mean - BA still stink, Guilliman and NewMarines come and save Baal. Hah, hopefully I'm wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm oddly sceptical. If anything this means that BA could be a real poster child for Primaris Marines, which is only a good thing in terms of model/ rules support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm oddly sceptical. If anything this means that BA could be a real poster child for Primaris Marines, which is only a good thing in terms of model/ rules support. ...Only a good thing - if you're interested/willing to buy the new marines (rather than play your existing BA force). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 The old pessimist in me can't help feeling this is going mean - BA still stink, Guilliman and NewMarines come and save Baal. Hah, hopefully I'm wrong. Probably. Or the lost Tau fleet appears near Baal and they get help from just another Xenos race. I mean they are pretty experience in fighting Tyranids after all. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm oddly sceptical. If anything this means that BA could be a real poster child for Primaris Marines, which is only a good thing in terms of model/ rules support. ...Only a good thing - if you're interested/willing to buy the new marines (rather than play your existing BA force). Great point! We know we'll have rules for our current range in full and they've even been mentioning the BA a fair bit with images and text so I think it means we'll just be in a really good position. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkni Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Sounds like Tower of Amareo time... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathcompanyDante Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Tower of amareo? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Where they keep those who have fallen completely to the thirst. DeathcompanyDante 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathcompanyDante Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Ah, never read about it! Thanks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 It's mostly just an offhand mention in the source material. Just single lines like, "hear the screams" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathcompanyDante Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Interesting, wouldn't be surprised then if it goes into more detail at some point Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Space Jesus returns, saves the day vs the nids then reveals the emp sacrificed him to win back horus. The BA go bananas and split to forge there own empire and take the fight to chaos. The lion comes back and joins them and the angels of death return... I wish! Space Jesus...is...Sanguinius? I like the idea of Blood and Dark Angels teaming up, forging their own 'semi-loyalist' empire, maintaining good relations with Tau and a healthy quid-pro-quo respect with the Necrons, in order to fight off 'nids and chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Space Jesus is definitely Roboute. He died for our sins and returned to deliver us from evil right before the world ends. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimm Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Space Jesus is definitely Roboute. He died for our sins and returned to deliver us from evil right before the world ends. Leave now and never come back! Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I wonder if our boys in red and gold are going to become the poster boys of the Dark Imperium and the original marines, while the Ultramarines become the poster boy for the new marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/29/#findComment-4743387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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