Indefragable Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 So....for Centurions and the Stormhawk Interceptor... I am happy for all my Baalite brothers who wanted them...and I am glad we have the options...but I have to admit I am slightly disappointed. It was wishful thinking on my part, but I secretly harbored hope that we didn't have those units because we would get something different and unique and more Blood Angel-y. Like a unique badass flyer and/or special rules that let us do the equivalent of Centurions, but with higher-speed, lower-drag units. <shrug> oh well. Happy for everyone who wanted Red Cents Chaplain Gunzhard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I feel the same, I'm mostly indifferent with the stormhawk and have no plans for centurions (or Primarus for that matter), and I don't need any other new toys either, but I did hope our current units would finally get unique treatment - hopefully they still will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I feel the same, I'm mostly indifferent with the stormhawk and have no plans for centurions (or Primarus for that matter), and I don't need any other new toys either, but I did hope our current units would finally get unique treatment - hopefully they still will. I have hope yet (I am a Blood Angel, after all...) that Sanguinary Guard will be BEASTS with S8 D3 Wound AP-4 weapons or something and DC will be even blendier. But Rowboat Girlyman's magical save-the-day-ness for Baal makes me think that we will be eclipsed by the Spiritual Liege and become red marines after all. Le sigh. Quixus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Well I guess we can expect at least D2 weapons since they all are Master-crafted. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Powerfist everywhere. Also inferno pistols on all the golden boys. I'm curious to see how well we transition to the new edition. Especially since pre-orders are up or are going up next weekend. Lots of excitement. I have centurions and now people won't QQ when I field red 'uns. I actually have some still on sprue, may look at some assaulty ones because I feel like they are going to get a big boost. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 At least my stormtalon wasn't a wasted purchase. Also assault centurions! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Well I guess we can expect at least D2 weapons since they all are Master-crafted. That at least and it eliminates the stupid rolling each weapon separately. Powerfist everywhere. Also inferno pistols on all the golden boys.Why did the inferno pistols get better? Let's hope they did not take away the banners from the SG. I'm curious to see how well we transition to the new edition. Especially since pre-orders are up or are going up next weekend.Did I miss something? I thought the preorders would go up on the 3rd. At least my stormtalon wasn't a wasted purchase. Also assault centurions!Finally an escort for my storm turkey.The question is stormtalon or stormhawk? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Powerfist everywhere. Also inferno pistols on all the golden boys.Why did the inferno pistols get better? In 8E you can shoot pistols in your own shooting phase, even while locked in combat. All the special pistols certainly got a lot more interesting. Now that two close combat weapons do not give a bonus attack anymore, they can also be paired with powerfists and such. I'm curious to see how well we transition to the new edition. Especially since pre-orders are up or are going up next weekend.Did I miss something? I thought the preorders would go up on the 3rd. You might want to have a look at a calendar to see what date next weekend is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I'm curious to see how well we transition to the new edition. Especially since pre-orders are up or are going up next weekend.Did I miss something? I thought the preorders would go up on the 3rd. I lol'd. Check the calendar, dude! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) Finaly my red grav and assault centurions find a use without excuses and without adding other marines chapters. p.s. i´m not dead yet i´ve just got married and will have more hobbytime after the honeymoon in midjune. Edited May 28, 2017 by Riot Earp Silverson, Chaplain Gunzhard, Grazcruzk and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I'm curious to see how well we transition to the new edition. Especially since pre-orders are up or are going up next weekend.Did I miss something? I thought the preorders would go up on the 3rd. I lol'd. Check the calendar, dude! My question was about the claim that preorders were already up. I know that next week will be the 3rd. Congratulations, Riot Earp. Riot Earp 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) Guys the pic with the Talon and Centurions was a troll, it's from that awful article on the GW site about that guy who was just like "well BA should have them and I have a relaxed gaming group lol" Well not FROM the article, I took it yesterday, but it's the same minis. Though I wouldn't be surprised if we get them in 8th. Edited May 28, 2017 by Charlo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Robin confirmed we still only get our current options. Plus primaris. But a codex may give us more in the future Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 That's conflicting information then, as Charlo already reported from the Q&A we'll get at least the Cataphractii and Tartaros terminator suits. Who is the Robin in question? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) Robin Cruddace (think that's spelt right) one of the lead designers... (He may have been trolling I guess, but it was in a conversation started because the wolves in the cabinet next to him had the imperial space marine and cataphractii, he explained that it was just one of the teams models and he even had wolf sanguinary guard conversions, he agreed that the first founding chapters should have those units but it's the sort of thing to be fixed in a codex, not the index books. At the same time he explained how "and they shall know no fear" works, as well as how "battle focus" works for eldar) Edited May 28, 2017 by Blindhamster Valerian 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 @Quixus, I couldn't remember if it was this weekend or next.@Charlo, Well That's super sad. Looks like I will just run them in a separate force org. T_TI think I'm ready for this edition. Lots still to look forward too, and I've worked out some pretty interesting ideas for my CBs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 BTW I don't know this could mean, but apparently the new starter has Primaris transfers only for Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels & Space Wolves. No Salamanders, White Scars etc... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Robin Cruddace (think that's spelt right) one of the lead designers... (He may have been trolling I guess, but it was in a conversation started because the wolves in the cabinet next to him had the imperial space marine and cataphractii, he explained that it was just one of the teams models and he even had wolf sanguinary guard conversions, he agreed that the first founding chapters should have those units but it's the sort of thing to be fixed in a codex, not the index books. Well, I guess we'll have to see. I wonder how they will deny access to those units to Blood Angels if they're all in the same book though. Will they simply make an exclusive list of every unit for every chapter; so a specific Blood Angels Tactical Squad and so on? At the same time he explained how "and they shall know no fear" works, as well as how "battle focus" works for eldar)You simply can't say that and not elaborate! vahouth and Dont-Be-Haten 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 And they shall know no fear - reroll battleshock tests. Battle focus - allows elder to run and still shoot anything except heavy weapons with a -1 to hit penalty (if I understood correctly). Also, dire avengers are movement 7. Genestealer cult ambushes are 'hillarious' Lieutenant assault bolter (one with the drum mag) is an assault 2 weapon instead of rapid fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Battlefocus seems to be hugely nerfed. Eldar mostly have assault weapons so they can run and shoot anyway. Unless there is a major overhaul in their weapon profiles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Battlefocus seems to be hugely nerfed. Eldar mostly have assault weapons so they can run and shoot anyway. Unless there is a major overhaul in their weapon profiles. I suspect I didn't fully understand his description of battlefocus to be honest. He did mention that grav platforms always count as stationary. which also didnt make sense, it may be that the usual -1 for running and shooting with assault weapons is actually ignored with battle focus? Sorry, I read assault weapon rules this morning, and I agree it doesnt seem quite right, so think i didnt understand this rule possibly. And they shall know no fear was really clear in its description, likewise he seemed pretty adamant that options available to each codex remain unchanged (which again, as others have said, seems to contradict other things we've heard) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) That's a real :cuss move if they don't give us those other units right off the bat.... Oh well, less temptation for me to buy that LSS... Edited May 28, 2017 by Jolemai Swear filter dodge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Grav pistols and power fists on every sergeant is the way I plan to roll.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4757991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Grav pistols and power fists on every sergeant is the way I plan to roll.. Do we even know what grav does in 8th? I'm thinking about Lightning Claw, Combi weapon and possibly a meltabomb. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4758008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Primaris & Death Guard scale comparisson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333154-8th-edition-ba/page/43/#findComment-4758021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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