Arkangilos Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 No one will simply rule the dark Imperium, travel and communication is too rough for solid control, so the lion won't be able to control more than a few sectors. That's the way it should be. You have the Imperium on Terra's side and Ultramar as the Eastern Roman Empire, relatively solid and trying to do reconquests (as seen by the I Crusade), and you've got the dark Imperium, everything on the other side of the CM, which is the collapsing western empire and the kingdoms that are unified by religion and former rule, but at best has minimal control of its territory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4919586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The rock and ultramarine are both left (west?) side of the CM. https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/galaxy-shadowbox.jpg Fenris is up north right in the middle of it and BA are right (east) of it. Both The Rock and Ultramarine can travel to Terra. BA and maybe SW will have a hard time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4919666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urriak Urruk Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I saw yet another rumor, this time for the Lion, and thought "How many Primarchs are in this rumor mill?" I have included a poll where anyone can submit their choice, mostly for my own curiosity. At this point I have no idea, and I'm torn between the Lion, Dorn and Fulgrim. https://strawpoll.com/cxx1wezc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4924504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 My cousins neighbours dogs sisters uncles hamster on the wifes side of the family three times removed who works for GW said the next Primarch is from one of the lost legions. This is totes true because it just is. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4924707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 My cousins neighbours dogs sisters uncles hamster on the wifes side of the family three times removed who works for GW said the next Primarch is from one of the lost legions. This is totes true because it just is. ;)Can’t argue with that. That hamster knows his stuff. Apparently he goes to the same pub as Gav Thorpes mechanical Hamster. To address the OP question - Two seems unlikely. I could maybe see FW and GW releasing a Primarch each in a relatively short space of time but not too close together. That creates too much competition for our money. I think the Lion and the Wolf will be the next Loyalists released, but I don’t think it will be soon, or very close together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4925741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demigod Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 A radical inquisitor tries to revive the Emperor by getting him a new body to act as a vessel for his soul ( or a fragment of it ).The only body that he deems is powerful enough to hold the Emperor is the body of Sanguinius but although they fail to bring the Emperor proper back they manage to get a shard of the Emperors unyielding fury in the form of the soul of Ferrus inside the body of Sanguinius. The Blood Angels and Iron Hands don't know what to do and Fulgrim blows a fuse. Ferrus stands as a becon of light in the vast darkness that is Imperium Nihilius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 A radical inquisitor tries to revive the Emperor by getting him a new body to act as a vessel for his soul ( or a fragment of it ).The only body that he deems is powerful enough to hold the Emperor is the body of Sanguinius but although they fail to bring the Emperor proper back they manage to get a shard of the Emperors unyielding fury in the form of the soul of Ferrus inside the body of Sanguinius. The Blood Angels and Iron Hands don't know what to do and Fulgrim blows a fuse. Ferrus stands as a becon of light in the vast darkness that is Imperium Nihilius I think I just threw up a ltitle Get that Heresy out of here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 A radical inquisitor tries to revive the Emperor by getting him a new body to act as a vessel for his soul ( or a fragment of it ).The only body that he deems is powerful enough to hold the Emperor is the body of Sanguinius but although they fail to bring the Emperor proper back they manage to get a shard of the Emperors unyielding fury in the form of the soul of Ferrus inside the body of Sanguinius. The Blood Angels and Iron Hands don't know what to do and Fulgrim blows a fuse. Ferrus stands as a becon of light in the vast darkness that is Imperium Nihilius I think I just threw up a ltitleGet that Heresy out of here Still better than some 40K fan fiction and official work.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I would actually love for the Lion just to show up. No rumors, no leaks. BAM up for order, not even a preorder. I hope RUSS is a ways away, I'd rather other factions get the spot light. Fulgrim, corax Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RapatoR Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Guys, why the speculation? The next primarchs are Fulgrim, Russ, and Angron, though I do not know in which order. This was leaked by over a year ago by 75hastings69, in the same warofsigmar post that he leaked primaris marines - https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1132#comment-2878619003. This also ties to the rumored Khorne and Slaanesh models to be released next year. He spoke about it a few days ago - https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2513#comment-3593088758 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Because Hastings is good but not perfect. And because he says he is looking forward to them, not that they are coming next. And I might have missed it, but I didn’t see Fulgrim mentioned in either of those threads. Just “S”. So we speculate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 If there are 40k releases for Khorne then Angron is very likely, and a World Eaters release would probably be more like Thousand Sons than DG anyway in terms of scope which would fit the bill nicely. It also ties in with the long running tradition of ensuring that Slaanesh gets shafted both in and out of the universe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spanish Inquisitor Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I would actually love for the Lion just to show up. No rumors, no leaks. BAM up for order, not even a preorder. If he did it, he would be in fact Alpharius. So far, Rumour engines make think to the Lion or Rogal Dorn (eagle). But I don't believe we will have another primarch this year. We already had three this year, GW has to keep some stock for 2018. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RapatoR Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Because Hastings is good but not perfect. And because he says he is looking forward to them, not that they are coming next. And I might have missed it, but I didn’t see Fulgrim mentioned in either of those threads. Just “S”. So we speculate. Ah my bad, I remeber him mentoning Fulgrim somewhere, but it might be my memory playing tricks on me... Perhaps it was this? http://disq.us/p/1gtx5t0 But that seems to suggest he confused Fulrgim with Angron... Or maybe I somehow mixed Fulgrim in after reading current rumors on faeit about Fulgrim and Russ being next? Nevermind However I would still suggest "looking forward" means "they are coming" in that context. Especially when he was right on so many things in that thread. For me, the questions is, how many primarch we will see in a year? My guess would be 2 or less, as this is what GW did previously. And since Angron and Russ was mentioned (as well as some ork models) by hastings, my guess would be prehaps warzone - Armageddon campaign the next year? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Armageddon makes a lot of sense. My personal bet is that Orks are the next release with actual model support for 40K. And World Eaters and/or Space Wolves, with or without Primarchs, would tie into that nicely. Of the two Primarchs, I’d bet on Angron over Russ though. GW does love Khorne. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Armageddon makes a lot of sense. My personal bet is that Orks are the next release with actual model support for 40K. And World Eaters and/or Space Wolves, with or without Primarchs, would tie into that nicely. Of the two Primarchs, I’d bet on Angron over Russ though. GW does love Khorne. I'd rather see a Armageddon campaing bring us Angron Dorn or Vulkan Prime ork Ghaz Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Since GW is tying Helbrecth with Ghaz I expect him to be redone. And Grimaldus. Every mention of Helbrecth has him following Ghaz around trying to fulfill his oath of killing him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urriak Urruk Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 So this is a BoLS rumor (so I will not make it its own thread) so obviously SALT EVERYWHERE, but for those who don't check that site but still may find this interesting. http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/11/40k-rumors-the-narrative-moves-forward.html Things to note; -New Gathering Storm-like book -New Triumvirate box -Box includes the Lion, an existing Blood Angel, and another character It's probably just someone wishlisting as another source told Faeit that no the Lion isn't next, and that instead expect Leman Russ. Still if the Lion was coming, this is how I would do it. (another reason to discount it, completely predictable) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I am going to take 3 rumors to make an argument. 1. The primarch releases appear to be every 5-6 months. This means around Feb-Mar. 2. Hastings said "he looks forward to Leman Russ", Fulgrim, Angron. This makes me believe Leman Russ is coming and since we have 2 traitors and 1 loyalist... 3. Another rumor said SW codex would be one of the last Codex and expect it after a xeno-heavy start in 2018. Well since we are pretty much caught up with most Imperium and Chaos, Xenos are most likely next. So next primarch will be loyalist in Feb-Mar. Leman Russ is supposed to be one of the next primarchs. SW codex will launch around March of the keep the codex pace up. Next loyalist around March, SW codex around March, Leman Russ one of the next Primarchs. Not saying Russ is the best choice, but rumors point to him. Lion would be a fantastic choice imo, and better than Russ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I am going to take 3 rumors to make an argument. 1. The primarch releases appear to be every 5-6 months. This means around Feb-Mar. 2. Hastings said "he looks forward to Leman Russ", Fulgrim, Angron. This makes me believe Leman Russ is coming and since we have 2 traitors and 1 loyalist... 3. Another rumor said SW codex would be one of the last Codex and expect it after a xeno-heavy start in 2018. Well since we are pretty much caught up with most Imperium and Chaos, Xenos are most likely next. So next primarch will be loyalist in Feb-Mar. Leman Russ is supposed to be one of the next primarchs. SW codex will launch around March of the keep the codex pace up. Next loyalist around March, SW codex around March, Leman Russ one of the next Primarchs. Not saying Russ is the best choice, but rumors point to him. Lion would be a fantastic choice imo, and better than Russ. Ya, so my guess for a schedule is (based off of rumors loose conjecture) jan-feb: SoB Feb - march: Tau March-April Tsons missing models then (flip of fenris saga) Wolves and RUSS Summer: ARMAGEDDON ORKS IG tease for khorne fall Fulgrim Slaanesh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4926986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakye Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 After seeing some of the release rumors and the Chapter approved highlights floating around, I'm thinking Russ will make a come back when the Wolves and 1K sons come, some narrative of Russ and Magnus blah blah blah both have problems with mutation.Sadly it probably means the Lion is on the shelf for the foreseeable future, I just can't see them popping him out until some warzone supplement codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4927005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 I hope Russ is in March, cause I can get him for my B-Day then. Make it happen GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4929660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Ferrus. Was. An. Idiot. There. I said it. He was beloved by all other Primarchs though apparently. Although why will always baffle me. Ferrus. Was. An. Idiot. There. I said it. You. Need. To. Provide. Points. Not. Bullet. Points. There, I dismissed it. He was rubbish in solo combat. He ran off with no support. He got his head removed by letting anger cloud his judgement. Idiot. When you have Vulkan who can do all the smithing that Ferrus does but on a better scale (lol, dragon joke) Ferrus is nothing original or special. When Angron is angry. Ferrus’s anger is nothing special. I think that you're forgetting something very important. Ferrus was never the strongest, the best leader, a good dueler. He wasn't a psyker like Magnus, his legion was relatively conventional unlike Alpharius. When compared to his brothers, Ferrus just seems...ordinary. And that's the writer's intention. Ferrus is the human primarch. In this galaxy of demigods and eldritch beings, of crusades and daemons, of lost technology and barbaric practices, Ferrus is a reminder that the Primarchs can be betrayed. They can feel anger, and loss, and hardship. The primarchs are ultimately flawed beings, and Ferrus reminds us of this. At least, that's my take. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4931965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I'd say Ferrus has been undersold by BL. His Forge World fluff gives a much more impressive image. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4932563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 If I may speculate... We won't see The Lion until Forge World releases theirs. Same goes for the rest of the Loyalist primarchs, which means either Russ, Corax or Vulkan would be more likely next. I'd say Russ, as another Primarch for C:SM would step on Guilliman's toes and really annoy the players of non-codex chapters. I also do not expect Emperor's Children or World Eaters to get their own codex until after all the current armies are updated. They have rules in the very recent Chaos Marine codex. Unless said codex gets redone without those two legions (again, annoying the CSM players), I bet Fulgrim and Angron would just get added in. I have no proof for any of this...just going off recent releases and trying to put 2 and 2 together and not get 5. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339977-which-primarch-is-next-or-will-it-be-two/page/10/#findComment-4932697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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