TheHarrower Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 So, er, this was in the dakka thread mentioned... Furthermore, I hope you like that swing twice, and attack a 3rd time Berserkers have, Death Company have it. Where? I don't see it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Found it. Please please please please be true! Dolchiate Remembrancer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkni Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Where? I don't see it... https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/690/744037.page#9712906 (second spoiler) Crimson Ghost IX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Ghost IX Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Choppitty Choppitty Chop death company would be frigging awesome indeed. Giving my Khorne Berzerker Pal grief already *nod. Should make some fun games if true. =) Edited November 25, 2017 by Crimson Ghost IX Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Crimson Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 They shall be feared Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 As they shoupd be! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Intercessors are a lot more competitive than say tactical Marines. "That one thing nobody wants to take is better than the other thing nobody wants to take". It really doesn't matter who of those two are better since if possible they get replaced by a unit from the Elite, Fast Attack or Heavy Support section anyway. :D That being said, I disagree. The strongest Marine lists I've seen so far use a bunch of Tacticals with a Lascannon and potentially a Plasmagun and not a single Intercessor unit. Spreading out Lascannons over different units really helps against alpha strikes and debuffs etc. so they are more popular than Devastator Squads lately and Intercessors just can't do that. Tactical Marines are more points for the build you suggest. One Lascannon shot on a 3+ doesn’t cut it. I know you get likes from old school players stuck in the past for whatever reason - that is fine but it is not competitive though. To me Primaris Marines are other units to choose from - I like them with no prejudice and will use them as I see fit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Found it. Please please please please be true! :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Found it. Please please please please be true! Bah! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palwatch Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 If the DC thing is true then the rest of the codex could be pictures of fruit for all I care. Thats all i want Remtek, Crimson Ghost IX, Thrown Pommel and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonExarch Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 It would certainly be a good start to getting us in a solid competitive state. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 If the DC thing is true then the rest of the codex could be pictures of fruit for all I care. Thats all i want. It's unlikely to be the case, I'm afraid. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 If the DC thing is true then the rest of the codex could be pictures of fruit for all I care. Thats all i want. It's unlikely to be the case, I'm afraid. :( I agree. There's no fruit on Baal so there'll be no pictures in our Codex. Damon Nightman, Thrown Pommel, Silas7 and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The Warhammer Community page was updated. Here's a close up some details on the new Lieutenant. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 i like the model, but I haven't bothered with Primaris so its not likely I'll pick this model up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Intercessors are a lot more competitive than say tactical Marines."That one thing nobody wants to take is better than the other thing nobody wants to take". It really doesn't matter who of those two are better since if possible they get replaced by a unit from the Elite, Fast Attack or Heavy Support section anyway. That being said, I disagree. The strongest Marine lists I've seen so far use a bunch of Tacticals with a Lascannon and potentially a Plasmagun and not a single Intercessor unit. Spreading out Lascannons over different units really helps against alpha strikes and debuffs etc. so they are more popular than Devastator Squads lately and Intercessors just can't do that. Tactical Marines are more points for the build you suggest. One Lascannon shot on a 3+ doesn’t cut it. I know you get likes from old school players stuck in the past for whatever reason - that is fine but it is not competitive though. To me Primaris Marines are other units to choose from - I like them with no prejudice and will use them as I see fit. Never said they cost the same amount of points, just that they fill a role in the Troop Section Intercessors can't fill. And the lists with multiple Lascannon Tacticals is NOT because someone just had some around. It's a serious list build on serious tournaments. I'm not pulling that out of my :cuss nor is it a list I personally tend to pay since I like more mobile units and plan to build a Primaris army anyway, it's just something I've observed multiple times now. You can try to ignore it as much as you want but Lascannon Tacticals ARE more competetive than Intercessors. Period. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxus Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The tacticals with lascannons that won the first GT Heat were run with Guilliman. That result can not be applied to BA directly. I think intercessors are more competitive now that they have dropped to 18 pts per model. BLACK BLŒ FLY and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The tacticals with lascannons that won the first GT Heat were run with Guilliman. That result can not be applied to BA directly. I think intercessors are more competitive now that they have dropped to 18 pts per model. Hadn't realised this. At 18 points, I may even try work them in somehow. That's quite good for midfield. Thrown Pommel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeball74 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) The Warhammer Community page was updated. Here's a close up some details on the new Lieutenant. I wonder what company that is! Edited November 25, 2017 by Jakeball74 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4940990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Vertical red line on a yellow base is 2nd company. Cross is 1st, Diagonal line (top right, bottom left) is 3rd, horizontal line is 4th. That's all they showed in the book I have to hand, but I think I've seen 5th is a saltire somewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4941001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) I was just perusing the SM dex yesterday and noticed that Guilliman has rewritten the Codex Astartes; some companies have up to 20 squads in them now as there's allowances for squads to be permanently assigned to Battle Companies from Reserve Companies (to make BCs more effective in any given engagement). Primaris are cool, though I don't plan on adding any to my BA collection, and I'm quite alright with the way the story is developing but some of the poses on these models just blow my mind. Has anyone tried standing up and putting their torsos into the position of this Lieutenant (or the Chaplain for that matter)? Maybe their enhanced physiology makes it a bit more doable EDIT:Just saw a partial WD page that has BA dice/cards on it but no pics of the emblem or info on stratagems. Edited November 25, 2017 by NTaW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4941018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The tacticals with lascannons that won the first GT Heat were run with Guilliman. That result can not be applied to BA directly. I think intercessors are more competitive now that they have dropped to 18 pts per model. Well I was talking about all Marines, not just UM or BA specific lists and I also was obviously talking about a state before the CA release. ^^ I agree that at 18ppm Intercessors are really not bad at all. It depends tho what else you have in your list. If you already have plenty anti-infantry (which is a subject to change as well with the Assault Cannon cost increase) and only need some anti-tank firepower Lascannon Tacticals would still be the better choice than cheap Intercessors for the Troop slots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4941209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 EDIT:Just saw a partial WD page that has BA dice/cards on it but no pics of the emblem or info on stratagems. The tease is real. I want to see those BA dice as well! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4941213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrne Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Aye seem we have access to Hunter, Stalker and Stormhawk for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4941221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I'm hyped for the Stormhawk and if we can really take them the Terminator variants, but I couldn't care less about the other units to be honest. Okay the Hunter looks pretty awesome as well so maybe if it has good rules I'll care about that one as well. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341026-new-codex-coming-this-year/page/26/#findComment-4941233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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