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Karhedron Venerable Brother

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It's everything I hoped for plus something. Only one thing missing so far...something that lets us get into melee more reliably after deep striking. But we haven't seen everything yet obviously. ^^

If they have given us the best stuff on the first day, I will be satisfied. If we get more stuff on the same level as today, I will be exstactic!
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Panzer

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It's everything I hoped for plus something. Only one thing missing so far...something that lets us get into melee more reliably after deep striking. But we haven't seen everything yet obviously. ^^

If they have given us the best stuff on the first day, I will be satisfied. If we get more stuff on the same level as today, I will be exstactic!

 

I know right. :D

Xenith Venerable Brother

Xenith

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I'll take it.

 

Does a 1 to wound still auto fail, oe do our S8 power fists now wound T4 automatically?

 

If a priest still gives +1 strength, out basic marines are wounding other meq on a 2+ first round of combat.

 

10 man Cataphracts squad. Deepstrike. Reroll all misses. Banner of sacrifice on a Terminator ancient nearby, all catastrophic get 2+/4++/5+++

Pendent Battle-Brother

Pendent

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I'll take it.

 

Does a 1 to wound still auto fail, oe do our S8 power fists now wound T4 automatically?

 

If a priest still gives +1 strength, out basic marines are wounding other meq on a 2+ first round of combat.

 

10 man Cataphracts squad. Deepstrike. Reroll all misses. Banner of sacrifice on a Terminator ancient nearby, all catastrophic get 2+/4++/5+++

 

A natural 1 always fails, unfortunately. GW is pretty unwilling to make things happen automatically if you cross a given stat threshold.

SM1981 Venerable Brother

SM1981

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The wings of sanguinius thing is great (for librarian dreadnought and / or mephi). It means they can actually get around he board and do some damage. 18 inch range plus a charge, and a re-roll on that charge, a turn makes them a real problem for people to face.

 

The banner of sacrifice thing is cool.

 

A terminator unit that can reroll all failed hit wounds is nice too. Hello Mr Assault Cannon and his Storm Bolter friends. Goodbye to Mr Ork Player / Genestealler player and his horde units.

 

+1 to wound for red thirst is ok. Not great, and would have prefered +1 attack & +1 strength, but it's still something to work with. It will mean taking on T5 opponents in CC, even with base marines is much more feasible.

 

Landraider storms will make cc scouts and shotgun scouts a lot more fun.

 

And having access to all heresy era stuff just makes sense.

 

I don't want to go too far, but there is nothing here that makes me a sad panda.

Indefragable Venerable Brother

Indefragable

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I wonder if sanguinary priests will be changed from +1 str to giving the red thirst even if the unit hasnt charged...

Red Thirst = if the BA unit Charged, was Charged by an enemy, or did a Heroic Intervention. Unless you’re getting seriously tarpitted for several turns, I would rather have the +1S from SP stack.

Jolemai Venerable Brother

Jolemai

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Having a priest and Red thirst in tandem means wounding enemy T4 on 2+. Which is totally baller, especially with a power sword.

 

Assuming the Priest rules don't change of course...

Remind me, if the wargear options change for a unit in our Codex, can we go back to the legacy options in the Index?

Morticon Venerable Brother

Morticon

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Having a priest and Red thirst in tandem means wounding enemy T4 on 2+. Which is totally baller, especially with a power sword.

 

Also means the chainsword Primaris cap is marginally better than the powersword :P 

 

Who would have thought! 

Charlo Venerable Brother

Charlo

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Having a priest and Red thirst in tandem means wounding enemy T4 on 2+. Which is totally baller, especially with a power sword.

 

Also means the chainsword Primaris cap is marginally better than the powersword :tongue.:

 

Who would have thought! 

 

Does it? Just means you get an extra swing with no AP as opposed to -3?

 

Power Sword seems better?

Morticon Venerable Brother

Morticon

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Having a priest and Red thirst in tandem means wounding enemy T4 on 2+. Which is totally baller, especially with a power sword.

 

Also means the chainsword Primaris cap is marginally better than the powersword :tongue.:

 

Who would have thought! 

 

Does it? Just means you get an extra swing with no AP as opposed to -3?

 

Power Sword seems better?

 

I remember doing the math, and getting that the chainsword was better than the PwrSwd on account of the extra attack. 

 

Someone could check my math though, im terrible usually. 

 

 

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Panzer

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Having a priest and Red thirst in tandem means wounding enemy T4 on 2+. Which is totally baller, especially with a power sword.

 

Also means the chainsword Primaris cap is marginally better than the powersword :tongue.:

 

Who would have thought!

 

 

Does it? Just means you get an extra swing with no AP as opposed to -3?

 

Power Sword seems better?

 

I remember doing the math, and getting that the chainsword was better than the PwrSwd on account of the extra attack. 

 

Someone could check my math though, im terrible usually.

 

Unfortunately the Powersword is still better against GEQs and MEQs.

 

EDIT:

 

With +1 to wound, no +1S from Priests:

Powersword Intercessor Sergeant vs T3 Sv5+ = ~1.67 damage

Chainsword Intercessor Sergeant vs T3 Sv5+ = ~1.48 damage

 

Powersword Intercessor Sergeant vs T4 Sv3+ = ~0.83 damage

Chainsword Intercessor Sergeant vs T4 Sv3+ = ~0.44 damage

 

 

 

With +1 to wound and +1S from Priests:

Powersword Intercessor Sergeant vs T3 Sv5+ = ~1.67 damage

Chainsword Intercessor Sergeant vs T3 Sv5+ = ~1.48 damage

 

Powersword Intercessor Sergeant vs T4 Sv3+ = ~1.11 damage

Chainsword Intercessor Sergeant vs T4 Sv3+ = ~0.59 damage

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Morticon Venerable Brother

Morticon

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I remember doing the math, and getting that the chainsword was better than the PwrSwd on account of the extra attack. 

 

Someone could check my math though, im terrible usually.

 

Unfortunately the Powersword is still better against GEQs and MEQs

 

Damnit. My math was wrong all along!! ><; sorry for the false hope :whistling: Move along...nothing to see here...

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Panzer

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So it seems I'm getting the Primaris from the Dark Imperium box for free. This solves my loadout questions kinda by itself...now I just need to buy some BA upgrade sprues for the blood drop relics and the chainsword. :D

Pendent Battle-Brother

Pendent

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So it seems I'm getting the Primaris from the Dark Imperium box for free. This solves my loadout questions kinda by itself...now I just need to buy some BA upgrade sprues for the blood drop relics and the chainsword. :biggrin.:

 

I chopped the hands off of the Intercessor sergeants from Dark Imperium and gave them chainswords from one of our kits and it looks pretty ok, for the record. I don't know that I'd bother picking up that kit by itself when (per an article this morning on BoLS) it looks like it will be free alongside the "Blood Angels" Primaris kits.

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