Lysimachus Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Interesting! I must be missing stuff, where are the elite upgrades rules? And the Scout armour and Camo cloak rules too, for that matter? I can't remember seeing them and I've got core book, RoB and FF downloaded? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 The Elite Advances are covered in DW: Core, p59. Scout Armour is in DW: Core, p163 and RoB, p142 Chameleoline Cloak, the Scout Gear etc are in DW: RoB, p144-145. MR. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Elite Advances are a whole special kettle of fish. With them, you can get pretty much anything, if you and the GM can come to a cost agreement on it. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Doh, I've obviously missed them when reading through. Will re-read when I get in! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 To be fair, the FFG series of games are a mess when it comes to the layout. Sometimes highly, and I mean highly important things are found in little sidebars a chapter or two away from where they would be relevant. Commissar Molotov, Lysimachus, Komrk and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 A thousand times, this ^ MR. Commissar Molotov 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlander47 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Certainly earns the "flawed" part of the term flawed gem. They really could've done with a few editing passes to make the books more useful and less arcane. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 And yet, being as arcane as they are makes them feel more at home in the 40k universe, almost like they are forbidden times or something. As an aside Ash, I'm waiting to see if you want to push forward with an honor duel, I'm good either way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlander47 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Oh? Ah that might've been me coming across similarly arcane in the post. The sword is out as an act of deference and fealty to Tyber -- he's accepting with grace and swearing to be a good little squaddie. No duels required (yet). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 Yeah, I think the duel is a little out of the narrative - if you could edit your post, Steel, that'd be great. Also, if you want to show Tyber leading the squad in training as Vorkys has done, I'll be able to move things forward. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) Ah, Tyber took it as a challenge, going to the Legion's custom of requiring an honor duel before taking over command, but he did give the firewing an out, by saying that this is not a good use of their time.Edit:Will do CM, I'll get that done either later today or monday morning. Usual weekend shenanigans of being a father of two. Post edited to avoid reference to an honor duel. Edit #2: Got something put together, Tyber provides a test for the squad: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344357-dw-blackthornswordhand-episode-iii-the-sundered-house/?p=5672552 Edited February 28, 2021 by Steel Company Commissar Molotov and That Beyond the Light 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojake Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Sorry that I've been AWOL the last few days, weekends are always harder for me but I'll try my best to get placeholders up by Fridays in case I can't post over weekend. @Komrk, don't worry about not including Achillion - it makes the most sense. I'll update my placeholder shortly of Achillion responding to Vorkys. Commissar Molotov 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 I'm targeting Thursday for the next big update moving the narrative forward. If you guys can get anything up before Thursday, that'd be ideal. Hope you're all well! That Beyond the Light, Mojake, Komrade_Atomic and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Beyond the Light Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 SO Blackthorn, where are we at for our new training mission. Whos tackling what and how do we do a mass narrative like this? quick sketch of the battle then each of take a chunk and fee off the thread?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petragor Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I'm targeting Thursday for the next big update moving the narrative forward. If you guys can get anything up before Thursday, that'd be ideal. Hope you're all well! Unless something more happens with the Swordhand exercise, I'm pretty much done. Looking forward to Thursday! Commissar Molotov 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I'm targeting Thursday for the next big update moving the narrative forward. If you guys can get anything up before Thursday, that'd be ideal. Hope you're all well! Bar any more RL getting in the way I am hoping to be caught up by then. Or 90% of the way there. Commissar Molotov 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlander47 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 SO Blackthorn, where are we at for our new training mission. Whos tackling what and how do we do a mass narrative like this? quick sketch of the battle then each of take a chunk and fee off the thread?? Sounds about right. We should obviously play to our strengths, since we each only have the 1 roll. A.T has gone ahead and given a good example, and CM has followed up as well with Varvost's contribution, so I'd say we should each "claim" a roll and give a little description about what our small IC post will be about. For instance, since Incariel has very high BS it would make sense for me to grab one of the BS rolls. Since A.T has already succeeded a Perception check, I'll interpret that as his keen recon allowing us to slip past a forward patrol and flank a group of Eldar. If everyone else is good with it, I intend to have Incariel follow up with those scouting efforts, identify a position of strength among the jungle ruins, and lay down a base of fire to cover the advance of our Assaults + Tacticals. I will choose one of the Guardian Squads to be "neutralised" for the sake of the training exercise, is that right Steel? My roll was rather lacklustre, for only 1 Degree of Success, but Emperor willing I'm going to use a Solo Mode ability of Incariel that grants 2 extra DoS as a Free Action so long as I hit at least once. I will likely write this as less a targeted barrage and more suppression fire. Narratively this allows the rest of Blackthorn to get into position and cut the Guardians down. Mechanically, I "spent" my success to remove that particular enemy from the list, and nobody else needs to spent their success (or failure) until they want to remove another enemy from the board. I hope I'm understanding the way you intended this to go, Steel. For now I'll put in a placeholder, will get it typed up later tonight. That Beyond the Light and Commissar Molotov 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 SO Blackthorn, where are we at for our new training mission. Whos tackling what and how do we do a mass narrative like this? quick sketch of the battle then each of take a chunk and fee off the thread?? As we aren't in an actual game combat it's pretty much just an excuse to flesh out your character a little and let the other players see a little of what your can do - pass or fail doesn't matter. Steel Company, Mojake, Commissar Molotov and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojake Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Placeholder updated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Hi everyone! I must admit that I stayed away from the board to avoid spoilers and made my way through Abnett’s Penitent on nothing but coffee every and painkillers over the weekend. In a very fitting way, I can hardly see straight today and my eyes are still burning.... everything you expect from reading a tome of reality shaking secrets :p Guess I’ll need to rest my eyes a bit before catching up here. Also there seems to be a problem when I am copying texts from my notes to the forum / other media... which is really unpleasant. I need to look into that. No need for you to ruin your eyes too trying to read my squabbles. Hooe you are all well! Deadass, Mazer Rackham, Steel Company and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5672958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlander47 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Here we go, placeholder filled. It's been a while since I've ruined myself in that way Xin, I hope the book was worth the pain. Xin Ceithan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5673050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient_Sobek Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I will make a Ballistics check and would like to take on the striking scorpions if that is alright That Beyond the Light 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5673079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 That's absolutely fine, Sobek - so you could choose to perform a Semi-Auto Burst (SAB) with your Frag Cannon: Pyke's Ballistic Skill (BS) of 62 (+10 for a Semi-Auto Burst)(+10 for Short Range of 10 metres or less) = BS82 (if you roll 62 or less, you hit twice) Alternately, Pyke has Hip Shooting, allowing him to move forward aggressively before firing a single shot with his Frag Cannon. This would be at BS62(+10 Short Range) for a total of 72. Then you just need to write a suitably gnarly narrative about firing his frag cannon and shredding everything before him in a crimson mist! Ancient_Sobek and That Beyond the Light 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5673095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petragor Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 That's absolutely fine, Sobek - so you could choose to perform a Semi-Auto Burst (SAB) with your Frag Cannon: Pyke's Ballistic Skill (BS) of 62 (+10 for a Semi-Auto Burst)(+10 for Short Range of 10 metres or less) = BS82 (if you roll 62 or less, you hit twice) Alternately, Pyke has Hip Shooting, allowing him to move forward aggressively before firing a single shot with his Frag Cannon. This would be at BS62(+10 Short Range) for a total of 72. Then you just need to write a suitably gnarly narrative about firing his frag cannon and shredding everything before him in a crimson mist! Huh, weird. In the other FFG 40k systems, Semi- and Full-auto give penalties instead of bonuses. Guess I'll have to get used to that. I even checked the rules and found out Lightning Attack doesn't have a penalty, even though I thought it did. If I ever mention incorrect rules or modifiers in my posts, could you guys help correct me? Commissar Molotov and Necronaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5673215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petragor Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 In fact, I would've totally succeeded on my training swordfighting test if I hadn't applied a -10 penalty! Damn... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/246/#findComment-5673217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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