What would you want in future Primaris expansions?

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

I’m thinking Impulsors could be a lot more popular.

[War Angel]

How many waves do you think we have left?

[redmapa]

How many waves do you think we have left?

 

Im guessing one more and then Chapter specific kits.

[Marshal Reinhard]

I expect we're going to see Omnis pattern armor return at some point for instance, possibly with adjustment based on customer feedback.

 

Note that when Gravis first arrived, they were heavily criticized for having those hoods on the aggressors and the Captain in gravis armor (among other things). It then took a few years before we got any new gravis models, but every single one since has downplayed that particular design choice. Calgar, Feirros, Tor Garadon didn't have the hoods. Could be argued that its because they're characters, so their heads need to be visible, but then the new Gravis Melta devestators, seem to have hoods that have been detracted down, which again downplays that part of the appearance.

 

In perhaps a similiar vein I seem to recall quite a few people not taking to the Surpressors, so I'm wondering if their quite lengthy while before a multipart kit (still nowhere to be seen anywhere) is because they might be getting a design tweak or two? Who knows when they'll arrive.

 

Regardless, we might just see one more wave before we see chapter specific units (they've at least started flirting with the idea in the game with Death Company intercessors), or we might see a couple, but I wouldn't be surprised if the wave style stops alltogether after a while, or we get mini waves every now and then. 

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

With it seeming to be pretty generally accepted at this point that the models in the "big picture" are going to constitute either half of the new starter set or all of a new Marines-only set, I'm going to speculate purely on what the remainder of this year will bring:

 

1) Obviously, if those squads are monopose models, we should see multi-part boxes for all of them.

 

2) Most of the characters will also be available separately, though I suspect at least the Lieutenant will remain exclusive to the set.

 

So, other than that...

 

3) It makes sense that at least one new character model will show up to juice interest in the multi-part wave. The Champion would be the most thematic fit, but they could go the Techmarine route. If not, he'll show up next year.

 

4) Speeders, dur. Plus the leaked photo looked like there were a couple of different builds for a tank based on the Impulsor chassis. So we should get at least one multi-build vehicle kit.

 

5) Primaris Attack Bike. This is absolutely just me hoping. I'd hate to see GW leave the Attack Bike coolness to the Firstborn.

 

6) Speaking of bikes and characters, if GW hasn't enacted a "no Primaris characters on bikes" policy, then we could definitely see one or more this year. Given how many Marine factions incorporate the bike concept, I'd think they'll have to at least go with a few bike characters, namely captain and (unquestionably) a lieutenant.

 

7) Fortification! GW's recent trend of including a fortification with (most) of their range expansions probably won't bypass the poster boys. Guessing this will reflect the Crusade theme somehow.

 

8) At least one new squad. I still think we'll see a Suppressor MPK box that can multi-build an Omnis-Pattern jumpy assault squad. Lots of general uproar about the lack of jump packs on the Assault Intercessors and I don't think that was an accident, just indicate of GW's continuing tendency to break existing units (in this case, Assault Marines) into several different Primaris units. We already saw a (presumably) cheap melee unit, next we should see a version that can get around the table a little faster and scale impassable terrain.

 

That's about it. Hopefully they'll completely surprise me with something else, though.

[Sete]

I just want 4 kits now.

Helbrecth

Grimaldus

Emperor Champion

Sword Bros

[Dracos]

I think you're "stuck" with the Judicar, Bladeguard  and Assault Intercessors. Anything too closely connected to the Firstborn is a thing of the past. I'll back you in some day hoping for a true scale Scout if they actually are canon with an All Primaris Chapter ... Totally not my play style but I love my Templar Brothers more than any others (that aren't Raven Guard;)).

 

 

 

PS Codex: Primaris (for the wish list)

Edited May 26, 2020 by Dracos

[Ishagu]

I think that a BT Primaris character or two are pretty likely in the future, but unique infantry units might not be.

 

The new wave of Primaris is really going to fill the gap in having units that represent chapters like the Black Templar.

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

Something I left off my list of things I expect as part of this year's wave - I wasn't the first to suggest this here, but whatever the Primaris equivalent of a Venerable Dread is, that would go perfect with the Bladeguard and other Veteran-style models. What says "veteran Astartes" more than a Venerable Dread, after all? They might even give the model an apron.

[Dracos]

Can't argue it fits this Primaris wave in theme perfectly. Are there any Redemptors that have been in service long enough to be considered Venerable? 

 

Lore wise . . . rules wise get that baby on the table and let's talk Mortis Redemptor next

 

 

 

 

Twin Heavy Onslaught Cannons with underslung Onslaught Gatling Cannons . . .

 

 . . . and his name shall be Bannon

Edited May 27, 2020 by Dracos

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

Can't argue it fits this Primaris wave in theme perfectly. Are there any Redemptors that have been in service long enough to be considered Venerable? 

 

Lore wise . . . rules wise get that baby on the table and let's talk Mortis Redemptor next

 

 

 

 

Twin Heavy Onslaught Cannons with underslung Onslaught Gatling Cannons . . .

 

 . . . and his name shall be Bannon

 

Yeah, it couldn't really be a Venerable Dreadnought by the same definition as for Firstborn. It would have to be something more like the most senior Primaris Dread(s) in a chapter, even if it's only been a hundred years or (more likely) less since they actually died.

 

If it weren't for that apparent new chaplain model, I'd suggest something like a character Dread could show up as well, but a Chaplain Dread seems like the most on-point for this current wave and I can't see them dipping into that well more than once in the same year.

 

Hell, maybe they will just call it a Bladeguard Dread and sidestep the normal connotation of a "Venerable" Dread.

[Marshal Reinhard]

I think you're "stuck" with the Judicar, Bladeguard  and Assault Intercessors. Anything too closely connected to the Firstborn is a thing of the past. 

 

3 of those things were characters, which is something virtually all of the rest of you have been granted already. It wouldn't be too far fetched for GW to do us right and grant us at least one.

 

Or maybe it is, given that we are where we are.

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

I'm pretty sure Redemptors won't have venerable options, the chassis is supposed to burn out the marines in it. Still a mortis version and a close combat specialist would be cool.

 

Would like to see some sort of flyer as well.

[Petitioner's City]

the ability to just make anything in the codex "primaris" for a price increase. Primaris assault marines, Devastators, rhinos, terminators. etc. Also id like the kits to be more like the older marine kits where all the parts are standardised with the legs torso arms etc.

Most wonderful idea in the thread :)

[Ishagu]

Never going to happen, and it shouldn't either. The Primaris have a different, modern design philosophy in terms of unit purpose. Not to mention their aesthetic.

[FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants]

Chapter specific stuff. Firedrakes, Death Company more ornate versions of the bikes for Ravenwing, Crusaders for BT, that sort of stuff.

[War Angel]

 

the ability to just make anything in the codex "primaris" for a price increase. Primaris assault marines, Devastators, rhinos, terminators. etc. Also id like the kits to be more like the older marine kits where all the parts are standardised with the legs torso arms etc.

Most wonderful idea in the thread :)

This doesn’t add to the mode range. Also the vast majority of space marine players already own plenty of firstborn, Primaris are new so that we can spend more money again. Doing this makes that redundant.

[Dracos]

 

I think you're "stuck" with the Judicar, Bladeguard  and Assault Intercessors. Anything too closely connected to the Firstborn is a thing of the past.

 

 

3 of those things were characters, which is something virtually all of the rest of you have been granted already. It wouldn't be too far fetched for GW to do us right and grant us at least one.

 

Or maybe it is, given that we are where we are.

I am all for a BT stand alone Cidex with its own special character and units that have crossed the Rubicon. I just think GW has a plan for Primaris that at least for another 2/3 years of more general units that can fit a particular theme (current release screams angry Marines previous one *wrongly* represented sneaky Marines) It’s my opinion the Judicar is designed to fill the role of an Emperors Champion without being one.

 

I personally would like to see a Templar version of Agax and Tor ... new blood to rally behind. (Love both those models)

[Marshal Reinhard]

 

 

I think you're "stuck" with the Judicar, Bladeguard  and Assault Intercessors. Anything too closely connected to the Firstborn is a thing of the past.

 

3 of those things were characters, which is something virtually all of the rest of you have been granted already. It wouldn't be too far fetched for GW to do us right and grant us at least one.

 

Or maybe it is, given that we are where we are.

I am all for a BT stand alone Cidex with its own special character and units that have crossed the Rubicon. I just think GW has a plan for Primaris that at least for another 2/3 years of more general units that can fit a particular theme (current release screams angry Marines previous one *wrongly* represented sneaky Marines) It’s my opinion the Judicar is designed to fill the role of an Emperors Champion without being one.

 

I personally would like to see a Templar version of Agax and Tor ... new blood to rally behind. (Love both those models)

 

 

GW's long term plans for generic marines hasn't stopped them from giving everyone else an upgrade kit, a character, and in the case of the big 4 a lieutenant. A codex and unique units are too tall an order when we couldn't even get our own real supplement. But maybe 9th will be different, the aesthetics of starter box does seem to cater to us more than any other chapter, even though not fully. And obviously, its open to everyone. Just like the Judicar is, who I'm hoping will end up being just different enough from the EC, as I don't want him killing the last chance of them bothering to make a new EC for us.

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

What do you all think the odds of us seeing another Battleline squad are? Right now we only have two, but that's still one more than the Firstborn, who essentially just had Tacticals. I know some people were hoping for a Battleline Gravis squad but I don't see that happening (I think we will get at least one more Gravis squad but it'll be Elite/Veteran in nature and might actually pack in a teleport homer).

 

Anything obviously missing from the current range that makes another Battleline unit likely? For me, it just comes down to not being keen on the idea of having 6th and 7th companies being full of Intercessors and not seeing any reason for more Infiltrators than those in 10th company. And when you consider how many Battleline squads are supposed to be in a codex-compliant Primaris chapter (44, for the record), you'd think there would be a little more diversity of options.

[Ishagu]

I think the battle line told has been filled pretty well. Intercessors, Incursors and Infiltrators are all very good, and now we'll have Assault Intercessors as well. Edited May 28, 2020 by Ishagu

[Medjugorje]

I want an upgrade sprue and at least one BT Primaris character. This could be a new one or Helbrecht, Grimaldus or a new Priamris emperors champion.

 

But now is the time that GW have to give us REAL love. Not that half finished supplement were too much things doesnt work together.

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

I think the battle line told has been filled pretty well. Intercessors, Incursors and Infiltrators are all very good, and now we'll have Assault Intercessors as well.

 

I agree with the first part, but Incursors and Assault Intercessors aren't even Battleline. They DO border on it though and specifically fill some of the same blanks that I could otherwise see a Battleline squad taking on. Maybe that was your point.

[Lord_Caerolion]

I can definitely see there being a Battleline designation Gravis unit, as opposed to Close Support or Fire Support. They'll just be Elites, or something like that. Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised, and get Gravis guys with power swords/boltstorm gauntlet or something, like the Gravis Captain, who are both Battleline and Troops.

 

EDIT: I mean, we've got a Tacticus Battleline, we've got a Phobos Battleline, it wouldn't be too crazy to see us getting a Gravis equivalent, to complete the trilogy.

Edited May 28, 2020 by Lord_Caerolion

[d_morff]

I'm sure this has been mentioned before, so sorry if I missed it.  With the incoming Assault Primaris, I'd very much like to see a 10-man transport option that doesn't cost 300+ points.  The Repulsor is a lovely model, but there's space there for a Rhino equivelent right now.

 

I'd also like to see a dedicated flyer transport ala Blackstar or Stormraven.  I really like the idea of airborne forces, and run a Deathwatch army based around three Blackstars.  I have to set one up empty as it represents the Primaris Intercessors having already been landed.  Thematically, it'd be nice to have them aboard thier transport.