Codex Next Week

[Waldwolf]

My Problem with the new Codex is that it will Not Met my Hopes. I Would Love to See some of the old rules from passt editions Back like obel or mark of the wulfen,russ and a proper Return of the 13th Company with heresy gear.

Even if its gonna Be an awesome codexi Miss the old times and rules.

So my tactic is prepare for the worst but Hope the best ;)

[Yoyo ninja]

I'm the same, if I think we won't get much other than a codex and primaris upgrade sprue, then I won't be disappointed. I would love to see the return of the Leman Russ Exterminator to our ranks, that was a fun and fluffy thing

[wilkco]

The long delay after the codex was first announced has stopped me building and painting my wolves as i do not want to waste time modelling say grey hunters when blood claws become better also now it less likely i will invest in primaris until the codex is out just in case they bring out new modelsor units. it would have been better if the had given the release date at the same time just to give people an idea if it is worth building stuff

[Yoyo ninja]

Yea, I'm holding off on some hellblasters so I can see what the upgrade sprue is like. I have enough

Painting to keep me going a life time though, so I have no issues there

[greysquigg]

Yeah I was thinking about not buying anything till codex too.... But I have an addiction and it needs sating. 

[The Saint Ragnar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/924mua/comment/e333mus?st=JK67YLVC&sh=187ab091

 

This reply summarizes my feelings on the matter. The lack of communication on GW's part is absolutely terrible. It is so easy to keep open and honest lines of communication in this age of social media but they refuse to do so.

[greysquigg]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/924mua/comment/e333mus?st=JK67YLVC&sh=187ab091

 

This reply summarizes my feelings on the matter. The lack of communication on GW's part is absolutely terrible. It is so easy to keep open and honest lines of communication in this age of social media but they refuse to do so.

 

As to communication, they've pretty much been consistent with all codex releases so I don't really see the problem? To me it looks like they're just managing our expectations in such a way as to create a demand come September. Summer is a terrible time to release a big flagship boxed set, sales would not meet expectation. Just means we'll get more in the future if we all buy the big things coming when we can afford them. The whole "we've waited long enough" argument sort of falls over in my mind, as I'm still enjoying myself even if I do get thrashed by middle of the road lists ;)

 

I must admit, having had a break from the game for a few years, I'm stoked for rules for great companies and a potential Russ model. Also new psychic powers, stratagems and relics... 

[The Saint Ragnar]

 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/924mua/comment/e333mus?st=JK67YLVC&sh=187ab091

 

This reply summarizes my feelings on the matter. The lack of communication on GW's part is absolutely terrible. It is so easy to keep open and honest lines of communication in this age of social media but they refuse to do so.

As to communication, they've pretty much been consistent with all codex releases so I don't really see the problem? To me it looks like they're just managing our expectations in such a way as to create a demand come September. Summer is a terrible time to release a big flagship boxed set, sales would not meet expectation. Just means we'll get more in the future if we all buy the big things coming when we can afford them. The whole "we've waited long enough" argument sort of falls over in my mind, as I'm still enjoying myself even if I do get thrashed by middle of the road lists ;)

 

I must admit, having had a break from the game for a few years, I'm stoked for rules for great companies and a potential Russ model. Also new psychic powers, stratagems and relics...

I feel like the communication could have been better for every Codex. Not just us, who have waited patiently, but everyone else. I realize they want secrets and to build Hype in whatever fashion they want but to repeat the same lines over and over is just imo lazy.

 

My honest hope is that the "wait will be worth it line" they have spit out time and time again will be true and we will see some huge changes or a certain model. If we just get a re-vamped Codex then I will buy it of course because I need and want it but I will be sorely disappointed given all the wait.

 

"Someone has to be last!" I see your lurkers back there saying we are acting entitled!

[greysquigg]

 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/924mua/comment/e333mus?st=JK67YLVC&sh=187ab091

 

This reply summarizes my feelings on the matter. The lack of communication on GW's part is absolutely terrible. It is so easy to keep open and honest lines of communication in this age of social media but they refuse to do so.

As to communication, they've pretty much been consistent with all codex releases so I don't really see the problem? To me it looks like they're just managing our expectations in such a way as to create a demand come September. Summer is a terrible time to release a big flagship boxed set, sales would not meet expectation. Just means we'll get more in the future if we all buy the big things coming when we can afford them. The whole "we've waited long enough" argument sort of falls over in my mind, as I'm still enjoying myself even if I do get thrashed by middle of the road lists

 

I must admit, having had a break from the game for a few years, I'm stoked for rules for great companies and a potential Russ model. Also new psychic powers, stratagems and relics...

I feel like the communication could have been better for every Codex. Not just us, who have waited patiently, but everyone else. I realize they want secrets and to build Hype in whatever fashion they want but to repeat the same lines over and over is just imo lazy.

 

My honest hope is that the "wait will be worth it line" they have spit out time and time again will be true and we will see some huge changes or a certain model. If we just get a re-vamped Codex then I will buy it of course because I need and want it but I will be sorely disappointed given all the wait.

 

"Someone has to be last!" I see your lurkers back there saying we are acting entitled! To see two main factions and fan bases get pushed to the last is what feels like a slight. If Custodes had been the last would have been fine as nobody was expecting them.

 

TLDR, I am hoping our new Codex is awesome and we get at least a new toy or two to play with.

 

 

My prediction is "we will have more nice things". 

 

If it turns out to be a peng fest then I guess I'll be disappointed too. But nothing I've seen has pointed to it being a let down. I'm pretty sure we're all going to be happy as Larry, and we all know how happy Larry is. 

 

He's pretty happy.

[Guest Triszin]

I can be patient and wait for the new dex, which I am.

 

 

I am getting annoyed for wolf and ork players

 

It is a bit ridiculous that nothing has been announced for them, besides a "soon" that actually isnt soon.

 

 

For Wolf players, for Ork players I hope that the wait is actually worth it.

 

by worth it I mean, New kits, new units, updated rules and lore. good new art work, good balanced codex's that make us both competitive

[greysquigg]

A had a game against an ork player last week and for the first time in a long time the game felt balanced! 

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

Let's keep the discussion on topic, which is discussing the eventuality of Wolf releases from GW.

 

How the Fang is percieved by other places on the web isnt just off topic, its laughable. Both the Fang subsection, and the Bolter &Chainsword as a whole, are the measuring stick on Warhammer 40k forums. 

 

Jarl Kjaran Coldheart

B&C Moderating Team

[Guest]

I can be patient and wait for the new dex, which I am.

 

 

I am getting annoyed for wolf and ork players

 

It is a bit ridiculous that nothing has been announced for them, besides a "soon" that actually isnt soon.

 

 

For Wolf players, for Ork players I hope that the wait is actually worth it.

 

by worth it I mean, New kits, new units, updated rules and lore. good new art work, good balanced codex's that make us both competitive

I fear that GW will release nothing other than a Primaris LT. and when the time comes people will rage making the rout look bad. GW will respond with a typical "we never said that", when they actually kinda have. The whole teasing saying "you'll be happy when it comes" give people misleading ideas.

[Bulwyf]

 

I can be patient and wait for the new dex, which I am.

 

 

I am getting annoyed for wolf and ork players

 

It is a bit ridiculous that nothing has been announced for them, besides a "soon" that actually isnt soon.

 

 

For Wolf players, for Ork players I hope that the wait is actually worth it.

 

by worth it I mean, New kits, new units, updated rules and lore. good new art work, good balanced codex's that make us both competitive

I fear that GW will release nothing other than a Primaris LT. and when the time comes people will rage making the rout look bad. GW will respond with a typical "we never said that", when they actually kinda have. The whole teasing saying "you'll be happy when it comes" give people misleading ideas.

 

 

They have teased on several times the "trust us, seriously, it will be worth the wait" line that at this point if it just a release like BA/DA then every angry post directed at GW will have merit. Because making people wait this long especially after saying going on 3 months ago that "soon!" was when we'd get the codex is frankly ridiculous.

 

So the new codex must have more to it than just the standard codex release. I don't know if that means Russ but anything short of that impact will have no legitimate reason as to why our codex has been pushed as far back as it has.

[TheWolfLord]

The assumption that the wait for these Codex must mean they’re going to get extra special treatment is the issue.

 

No Codex should get extra special treatment based on where it lies in the release schedule and it’s hardly been an enormous wait in the grand scheme of things.

 

I’m not expecting any major update or model releases with either Codex, I’d be amazed if we get Russ with the Codex, I expect he’ll arrive at some point but not until next year at least. Orks may have more chance of new models but it’s likely Wolves will only get the lieutenant and an upgrade sprue.

 

The Community team saying it’ll be worth the wait has been their standard reply to nearly every Codex release query so again it means nothing.

 

The simple fact is that they’ve planned their 40k, AoS and specialist game releases around each other, some Codex were held back to avoid over saturation and we drew the short straw. They announced the next 2 Codex but some people believe the wait has been too long. There’s been a fairly big AoS release to fit in and 40k has dominated the released for the last year, I think 40k players can show a little patience considering.

 

Nobody can prevent you from reading more into the release delay for the Wolves Codex but if we get a normal Codex only release that doesn’t include lots of new content or meet your expectations then unfortunately that’s on nobody but you.

 

Sorry to come across as harsh but unrealistic expectations are already turning some of these discussions toxic, I can only imagine how negative the reaction will be if Wolves don’t get a model for Russ, the 13th with a fully updated set of rules alongside the Codex.

[Wolf Guard Dan]

While I can agree that no codex should get special treatment based on their order it is assumed that we may be getting special treatment due to their release order. Takes longer for something big to come about.

 

I would love to see Russ released. But I don't think it is going to happen. I would prefer to get a codex that is playable without Russ than a codex that he is a must-take crutch.

 

There hasn't been any leaks. That doesn't mean Russ isn't coming. That primaris upgrade kit and lieutenant hasn't been leaked either!

 

We can't hold them accountable when one marketing guy says "You'll be happy when it comes." Chances are it will just be a primaris upgrade kit and a lieutenant. Them saying we will be happy is just marketing spin. And it was an off-hand response in the comments section.

 

I am more perturbed that they said "soon" awhile ago. Is it June 2nd yet?

[Guest]

There hasn't been any leaks. That doesn't mean Russ isn't coming. That primaris upgrade kit and lieutenant hasn't been leaked either!

 

 

So we aren't even getting a Primaris LT. upgrade is what you are saying. Thanks GW. /s

[Wolf Guard Dan]

What I am saying is that people cannot support the "Russ isn't coming" argument by saying there hasn't been leaks of him yet. There haven't been leaks of primaris upgrades or a lieutenant and the chances of us getting those kits are about 99.99%.

[Jackalwolf]

For me these are my most fervent wishes:

 

1. Return of Russ and the 13th

2. If you make me choose, I'll take the 13th if they come with heresy era death guard scale models

3. Barring none, a really cool Reiver unit with great models

 

I'm preparing different levels of expectation to not be too disappointed but I expect at least 3 or a comparable!

[Dark_Jober]

3. Barring none, a really cool Reiver unit with great models

I think if SW would receive special Reivers, they could be released in Kill Team... because the SM set is a SW kill team but nothing special in it.

[Leif Bearclaw]

 

I think if SW would receive special Reivers, they could be released in Kill Team... because the SM set is a SW kill team but nothing special in it.

 

You're not thinking like a money grubbing corporation though. Why release special Reivers early? If they do regular ones 'all' the SW players will buy them with Kill Team, then you bring out the special Reivers a little later, and because they're unique and new, 'all' the SW players will buy the new ones. So you get to double dip the consumers .

 

Now, I'd be surprised if SWs get unique Reivers, I think if we get any unique Primaris it'll be something actually new, rather than 'established unit in different hat'. But 'they weren't in Kill Team' doesn't disprove the concept imo.

[Guest]

 

3. Barring none, a really cool Reiver unit with great models

I think if SW would receive special Reivers, they could be released in Kill Team... because the SM set is a SW kill team but nothing special in it.

The Kill Team Reivers had to be agnostic as it is the only Adeptes Astartes kit. Additionally there is no SW faction in Kill Team, so of they had unique SW unit it would require a unique faction.

[Dark_Jober]

I always thought Black Templars were one of the most ignored and bad supported by GW... but now I'm starting to worry about SW...

 

I hope SW will be a new step in the SM era, maybe implementing some new rules as Flesh Wounds (?) And then all SM being upgraded in CA2018

[Karhedron]

2. If you make me choose, I'll take the 13th if they come with heresy era death guard scale models

Is there any evidence that 30K Marines were bigger? Look at the Mk3 and Mk4 plastics, they are the same size as 40K Marines IIRC. Death Guard are larger because they are bloated with disease (and they wanted the models not to look weedy in comparison to the Primaris Marines they were released alongside).

[Jackalwolf]

 

2. If you make me choose, I'll take the 13th if they come with heresy era death guard scale models

Is there any evidence that 30K Marines were bigger? Look at the Mk3 and Mk4 plastics, they are the same size as 40K Marines IIRC. Death Guard are larger because they are bloated with disease (and they wanted the models not to look weedy in comparison to the Primaris Marines they were released alongside).

Nope no evidence anywhere. Just hoping that going forward if old marines get new kits they're a bit more sized up to bridge the gap in scale. Pure wishlisting from my part.

 

The Varagyr kit from 30k FW is massive though, bigger than primaris but that's so dependent on the sculptor that I'd read nothing into it:

 

 

It's one of the reasons I'm so sad Rob left forgeworld. The fur aside, they have great details and the scale is fantastic so we could have gotten also big Deathsworn.

 

And we shouldn't pin the fur only on him. There's a lot of quality checks in which that should have been flagged and make the kit be a solid 8 out of 10 as it would be with Russ like quality of fur.