DeadFingers Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) I heard from somewhere (that I now cannot quite remember) that Necrons would be the BA's opponents as the ceasefire brought about by the Nid invasion breaks down. However I think the leaked release list showed Nid models (Hive Tyrant and Termagant repacks) coming out at the same time so continuing the Shield/Devastation of Baal storyline seems likely. The French rumours said Nids, and they've been accurate so far, so for the moment I'm inclined to believe they'll be the main menace. But with that said Necrons will probably be involved too, but they might just be part of the fluff and get their rules and/or releases later. Edited November 3, 2019 by DeadFingers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I think we will get between 3-4 "Primarcg tier" characters over 2020. Call me crazy. Pa will introduce 2 by the end of it, beast ghaz, corax. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I think we will get between 3-4 "Primarcg tier" characters over 2020. Call me crazy. Pa will introduce 2 by the end of it, beast ghaz, GLORIOUS ROGAL DORN. Fixed that for you :) Red_Shift and phoenix01 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I think we will get between 3-4 "Primarcg tier" characters over 2020. Call me crazy. Pa will introduce 2 by the end of it, beast ghaz, GLORIOUS ROGAL DORN. Fixed that for you :) Dorn has a time an place. He is the wall, the eternal crusader. Whether his place is to hold off a beast, the traitor or the nid, is still yet to be determined. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Shift Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 My one hope with the BT not getting releases this time around is that they are waiting to release them with melee primaris and glorious Rogal Dorn! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytoy Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Seeing Dorn in templars black would be excellent. Would be neat if the release him a la Calgar with two sword brethren bodyguards painting.for.my.sanity and Red_Shift 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Why's everyone so convinced another Loyalist Primarch's in the pipeline, anyhow? D3L and Bryan Blaire 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Why's everyone so convinced another Loyalist Primarch's in the pipeline, anyhow? Because we w a n t one. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagoth Ur Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Why's everyone so convinced another Loyalist Primarch's in the pipeline, anyhow? Because money talks and money walks, friend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 100% another one will be released in the future. GW wants to make the shareholders happy! MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 100% another one will be released in the future. GW wants to make the shareholders happy! And y'know, people that aren't Ultramarines. You absolute blueberry. Slave to Darkness, Zephaniah Adriyen, SickSix and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I imagine one will happen eventually, yeah. I just don’t know that there’s any that are in the works right now. GW kinda set Guilliman up as the Imperium’s own god-creature/exemplar type thing, which makes more sense to new players when there’s one of them than if there’s two. Like, I could be wrong and Russ Returns could be announced tomorrow or whatever, who knows. Just doesn’t seem as inevitable and planned as is often discussed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Yeah, if the bring another loyalist back the only way to go is have them behave antagonistically towards Guilliman. No way they’d just let him run the show when their claim is as valid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Except that it's the Emperor who said Guilliman is in charge and unless he tells the others the same (why should he?) or takes it back their claim simply isn't as valid. Edited November 4, 2019 by sfPanzer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 That’s not really how legitimacy claims work. Unless the Emperor gets up off that throne and makes a broadcast to every part of the Imperium any returning Primarch is just as equal in their claim to authority as Guilliman. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Well I mean they could just go to Terra and try to ask him. If they don't do that or get ignored by the Emperor then it's Guillimans and the Custodes words of what the Emperor has said against theirs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Don't forget, several Primarchs had no ambition of running the show. Neither Corax nor Russ showed any real interest in politics, prefering to stick to what they did best. The Lion was sore about being passed over as Warmaster but had largely settled his differences with Guilliman by the end of Imperium Secundus. To be honest, if the Lion came back and demanded to be made Warmaster, I can actually see Guilliman accepting that. Having someone else to run around and put out the bush fires would allow him some time to actually try and rebuild the Imperium rather than just trying to stop it collapsing. As to why we think there will be another Primarch, we are just optimists. GW said that any future Primarchs would be part of big campaign events and PA certainly fits the bill. Whether we will actually get one or not (and who it might be) remains to be seen. pandion40 and Panzer 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) If anything Valdor could come back before any Primarch. I'm certain some friction between him and Guilliman would appear. Edited November 4, 2019 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 If anything Valdor could come back before any Primarch. I'm certain some friction between him and Guilliman would appear. I think valdor is with Russ, if I am not mistaken. So his return would probably mean the return of Russ as their gates are intertwined. I just hope valdor has tutored Russ into a wiser figure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 If there is a loyalist primarch returning my bet is it will be the lion. Space marines have their supplements. Mephiston is coming and French rumors that listed him also had Ragnar coming in PA3. So the lion would make sense as the DA release if they get one. SickSix 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 If anything Valdor could come back before any Primarch. I'm certain some friction between him and Guilliman would appear. I think valdor is with Russ, if I am not mistaken. So his return would probably mean the return of Russ as their gates are intertwined. I just hope valdor has tutored Russ into a wiser figure. Valdor trains Russ to be wiser. Russ trains valdor to be more decisive and to take charge and lead instead of waiting for orders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytoy Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I agree. Would be a nice finale for PA to have the next loyalist primarch released, which, going by rumours, would be the lion and his boys in robes Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 New story up: Keeping Order DeadFingers 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 If there is a loyalist primarch returning my bet is it will be the lion. Space marines have their supplements. Mephiston is coming and French rumors that listed him also had Ragnar coming in PA3. So the lion would make sense as the DA release if they get one. Looking forward to a new Ragnar. Not fussed about the Lion as I would have preferred Russ. I agree. Would be a nice finale for PA to have the next loyalist primarch released, which, going by rumours, would be the lion and his boys in robes Another Primarch would make a great conclusion to PA. The Lion makes a good candidate for a return since he fulfils the same criteria as Guilliman before his resurrection. His location is known, his status is known and all that is needed now is a trigger. Returning any of the other Loyalist Primarchs would involve a fair bit of exposition to explain what they have been doing for the last 9000 years (unless they invoke wibbly wobbly timey wimey ). SickSix 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) If there is a loyalist primarch returning my bet is it will be the lion. Space marines have their supplements. Mephiston is coming and French rumors that listed him also had Ragnar coming in PA3. So the lion would make sense as the DA release if they get one. Not gonna say it'll be the one or another, however using Mephiston as argument barely works considering that BA simply don't have an alive Primarch anymore and that UM already got another two Primaris characters on top of their Primarch. ^^ Edited November 4, 2019 by sfPanzer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/35/#findComment-5419907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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