hammer grimblood Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I like his rules, killy against the right Units, but not an auto include. Seeking a Saga will come in Handy. He is still squishy, but thats the same as before. While I get why People miss the Wolves, I rather be able to throw him in an Transport with regular Units. Space in those is limited. You can only toss him in an Impulsor though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oshikai Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Or Repulsor of any Variety and any future Primaris Transport Options than can transport regular MKX Infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang_Guard23 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 And he no longer has Saga of the Warrior Born, so if he get's charged, he can't fight first Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) And he no longer has Saga of the Warrior Born, so if he get's charged, he can't fight first How do we know that? The Saga's were not listed on character datasheet but were on the Saga information and FAQ's. Edited March 18, 2020 by Jarl Caldersson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) I don't think he will see much of a point increase from the 100 he is at now. Hoping we get a preview today but expecting to have to wait till Thursday or Friday Edited March 18, 2020 by Jorin Helm-splitter Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 Codex was downstairs so just googled power level to points :) Hes probably 120 ish. Based on 100 power is 2k points. Some points for characters have been dropped a couple of times but power level stays the same on the sheet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Time has come 6th Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 That 6 inch consolidate is big with Multi charge clear the screen and double fight murderfang with his inbuilt reroll or Wulfen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 And now I break my browsers refresh button... Honor and fortune brothers. Oshikai and Kassill 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 They wont preview the wolves that easily :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Only refresh at 12:05 and 12:15 Ragnars consolidate might be good for termi's. Anything that helps there speed Edited March 18, 2020 by Triszin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Its up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/18/space-wolves-new-rules-for-a-new-sagagw-homepage-post-3/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 That 6 inch consolidate is big with Multi charge clear the screen and double fight murderfang with his inbuilt reroll or Wulfen. I make it 3 ways to fight twice Honour the Chapter strat (dreads excluded?) Only in Death character strat Wulfen death frenzy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 The special doctrine bonus seems underwhelming but the stratagems look good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Super doctrine is.... Okay? Really not reliable. Talisman of the storm is cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Doctrine is bleh (not behind...stupid autocorrect) and our fluff is going the wrong direction. We now eat the dead for CP... Edited March 18, 2020 by TiguriusX Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigart Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Doctrine is behind and our fluff is going the wrong direction. We now eat the dead for CP... It's better than the nid one (if genestealer/lictor/broodlord kills a character... spend 1 cp to gain d3...). every time i've used that... i get 1 cp - netting 0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 more extra attacks....special doctrine,litany and relics mediocre...bad news so far Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Say hello to rune priest berserkers Fury of wolf spirits and CP for exploding hits on 4+ *edit for those who dont know 10 base attacks on charge exploding on 4s is approximately 15 attacks from a single model Fight twice is also an option after Ya... Edited March 18, 2020 by TiguriusX Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Super Doctrine is very meh compared to all other ones. Like why even bother? I could see if they let us do it on hit rolls of 6 so our tactic can add to it. I'm hoping the strategems and traits allow us to get some good buffs from this book. So far not super impressed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 So far its all nice, but what seems like was good before will be better though with this and not much else elevated. I still have concerns re: melee focussed litanies and transports/deployment so I guess we'll see. Crossing my fingers for some sleepers in there. I had really hoped for a Tempestus uplift. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 24 strats substracting the sm common ones leaves 8 unique...we know the 2...also arent there any w.traits? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 24 strats substracting the sm common ones leaves 8 unique...we know the 2...also arent there any w.traits? A bit early to tell but I would say no new warlord traits or any type of build your own great company Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) damn they are doing it again...its coming...the short end of the stick...its still early but... ps:waiting for fb reveal Edited March 18, 2020 by lonewolf81 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Super Doctrine is very meh compared to all other ones. Like why even bother? Yeah, that does seem seriously unimpressive. It is interesting to compare to it to Blood Angels who get a flat +1A. Consider a 5-man unit of Intercessors which will get on average 10 hits on the charge for Marines with no super-Doctrine. Blood Angels would get 13.3 hits. Wolves would get 12.5 hits. Now this straight comparison is a bit misleading as the BA bonus is a flat bonus. The SW bonus however scales with the number of attacks. The more dice you roll, the bigger the bonus. This means is slightly better than the BA super-doctrine for models with 3A on their profile and gets progressively better as the number of attacks increases. Ragnar for example gets far more benefit from exploding 6s than he would from a single extra attack. To get mileage from this super-doctrine, you will need to get high-attack units and stack them with bonuses like the Wulfen Stone. Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I'm pretty sure that Orks got the Lion's share in this book for good updates. We will have to see how the book looks in two weeks. I'm certainty hopeful there are hidden gems or things they didn't preview as far as some extra rules but I doubt at this point sadly. IMO we got another unnecessary delay for no real payoff like with the Codex. Karhedron, Bulwyf and NightHowler 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358259-runic-awakening-speculation/page/41/#findComment-5492781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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