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I think I agree. It's the direction I am already headed in anyway. :biggrin.:

 

I am maybe thinking about 3 rifle squads from the Victrix kits to match the command squad in blue coats. 
And we'll see what happens from there. 
I'm still thinking about 30 more conscripts like my first 90. I have the kits here and it could be done. 

I have a lot of ideas, we all do.... I just need to keep the ship from hitting any rocks at this point. Thing are going really well. 
I've started to read up on how to put an IG army together and how the regiments things work. The scions portion is where it gets iffy, should I use a scions regiment detachment or not?. 
I guess it only matters now if and or when I want to use Knights, Blood Angels and Guard in the same army. Under 3 detachments.  

On a related note I have now base coated the last 70 something bases the other portion, all of their bases are now done. Should have it all finished sometime tonight! 
I love having my plate cleared and ready for the next set of kits some time next month. I may even finish the two small knights the way things are going. Well, table ready anyway. 

And I have a game possibly scheduled for next Wednesday. the only game I'll play this year.  

The pictures are large. 
only posted 5 of them to the blog which is linked here
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My table area was too small so I didn't set up the Blood Angels as well as the Guard. 
the whole thing took about an hour from start to finish. Not every picture was posted and I wish I had taken more but over al these 5 are the best. 

Thanks for looking.

How many points is all of that?

 

Always love a good army shot

I have no idea. 

Still no motivation to attempt trying to put it on paper. 

I know, it's silly. 

Conscripts 30 X 3 X points

Scions 10 X 4 X points

Veteran squad 1 Heavy flamer 3 Plasma guns 

Comand squad with banner medic and 2 Grenade launchers

Senior officer

Junior Officer

 

Death Riders 10 X 3 X points

DR command with Banner

DR officer 

DR commissar

 

​Malcador Defenders X 3

 

Big Knight 

little knights X 2 

I have less and less excitement about points over the last few years.  I removed army builder a few years ago and don't expect I'll bother with it again. I'm making one list and that's all I'm going to play. I'll just build it around dropping things from a master list to fit smaller games. But it'll only be 1 list so I only have to do it once.

If I need to fill out something I don't have I'll just raw from my Blood Angels when I can.

I hate all the points adjustments from these last two edition. 

 

My next additions include 9 Mortars 9 either heavy bolters or autto cannons and a scion command squad and probably 30 more conscripts.

And hopefully 3 or 4 infantry squads and a few special weapons teams, artillery and at some point a death Strike missile or two. 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

How many points is all of that?

 

Always love a good army shot

I have started looking at points. I like the new points format. It amuses me that it's so close to closed points or even power levels in execution. 

 

 

So starting over from my previous post.

 

Lets see. 

 

Conscripts 30, 150 X3 450. good laward that's a lot of points.

Scions 10 with vox 90 X4  360 Not too bad.

Veteran squad 1 Heavy flamer 3 Plasma guns and vox. 110 I think that's about right.

Comand squad with banner medic and 2 Grenade launchers. 45 About as I had expected.

Senior officer power sword. 40

Junior Officer. 25

 

Death Riders 10 X 3 X points 150 or 155 with power sgt, I remember it being an option. 350 or 365 give or take.

DR command with Banner 60

DR officer 45

DR commissar have to look in legends doc for that. 

 

​Malcador Defenders with lascannons 270 X 3  810, I think that's right

 

about 2297 points so far but only 1487 of built and painted models if we drop the yet un bashed and painted Malcador defenders. 

The knights will probably round that up past 2000 easily. (?) 

 

 

Not counting the heavy weapons tems because the are still in transit, but I think mortars and Heavy bolters cost the same and if I read it right it's 50 points for all three models so in total I think it's 6 teams for 300 points.

I don't have the points for the knights currently but will look around and find them. 

 

Points this edition sure are weird. 

  • 4 weeks later...

Update.

 

 Good news! 
Seems my WA Grognard heavy weapons are officially on the way! 

I'm still neck deep in red dudes at the moment Hope to finish a few more units before I get back into the trenches.

 

It's all coming together. 
 

Ooops, those Grognard heavy weapons boxes arrived on Monday. I'm just checking the tracking this morning... Viva La Space France...Oh, no! We suck again...
It's funny because I was in town yesterday and didn't check the post office box.

 

Just got my Grognards this week too. 2 boxes of infantry and 1 heavy/command box. The mortars in that kit are hefty. I love ’em. Thinking I might make them my DKoK stand ins.
  • 2 weeks later...

Update!

This morning I started to build the Grognard heavy support. so far I have 3 Mortars built and 3 "Autto Cannons". Just have to sort out the weapons crews next but I may just push on and built out all of the weapons before I do that. Planning 9 Mortars for sure and may set a few up as proxy lascannons. I'm also clipping the sniper rifles and setting them aside for special weapons teams. 
Pictures in the near future. 

How easy/difficult are you finding building those heavy weapons?
Also one thing I have not been able to see mentioned anywhere is exactly how many heads come in the dedicated head sprues of male/female. Is it 3 per type like with the regular grognards box?

How easy/difficult are you finding building those heavy weapons?

Also one thing I have not been able to see mentioned anywhere is exactly how many heads come in the dedicated head sprues of male/female. Is it 3 per type like with the regular grognards box?

They're easy to build. Just look at the box pictures for reference. I actually made a mistake putting on the support feet I didn't realize they weren't all the same. there are 3 of a kind and 6 of a kind in the box. which correspond to the weapons carriage. Just look at the feet and you can't go wrong.  One other thing I've done is trim the pegs that mount the weapons to the carriages. Just a small bit though. I felt they sat up just a bit too much. You could built two carriages and assemble all 4 weapons options and swap them between carriages. 1 for the one with the gun shield and the other would be the Mortar and the quad blaster with the bubble shield. some tweaks will be needed. Not enough crew to go around without some extra models. 

I like it, good value for the price!  

 

The female heads seem just slightly smaller than the usual Grognard but I can't tell if the weapons crew torsos are smaller or the same size. 

 

Edit

Der... 

So those legs I confused are right next to the wheels for the carriage they are part of. 

I had clipped them all for 3 frames and hadn't realized they were different. 

 

Edit

 

These are so easy to build I am nearly done building all 9 heavy weapons platforms! 

 

Edited by Warhead01

I like the wheels, great fit for the trench warfare theme :thumbsup:

I really like the wheels. 

 

So as sort of a review of this kit there are a few things I noticed. 

Firstly the crew are just a bit smaller than the Grognard infantry box. This kit comes with female heads and so maybe that's the reason for the change in size. Not all of the crew are smaller. the torsos have to be glued to the lower bodies and some are noticeably larger. (torsos) 

This box comes with no bases. I found a bulk order of 30 on Ebay for next to nothing. 

There seems to be not really enough arms for something as ambitus as 4 crew for two heavy weapons. there are enough for the gunners but not the secondary crew with out some extra bits. I've added a rto operator as a crew to 1 in 3 mortars. I've got 9 so 3 rtos.  I would have liked to have done the same for the other heavy weapons but still need to save 5 manpacks for my storm troopers and command. 

These aren't bad kits at all, no instructions so look at the box art front and back. The layout of the parts is good, parts that go with like parts are mostly near each other, just pay a bit of attention when assembling. 

These kits cost me 35.00 usd each and I got a 5 dollar discount from Paypall, lucky me! I ordered 3 kits. 

To out fit all of these 18 weapons, as I had planned I would probably have needed 1 more kit for the reasons mentioned above. 

I hope that was helpful. 

 

I assembled all my crews last night leaving only their heads off as I still need to get those from the WW1 Germans box next to my chair. I expect I'll have them all built and primed by tonight sometime and ready for paint tomorrow. I've left 3 weapons aside for later, If I get the WW1 French kits I'll try to crew them up from those models. 

I don't expect just now that I will buy another of these kits as I am leaning toward Heavy Mortars next if I can swing it. I'll use the Victoria Miniatures crews as well next time so I know everything matches and just do a head swap for the crew.  I think I'll put those on large bases as well. 

 

Pictures in a few days where there's paint to show. 

 

 

If you need coms backpacks the Einherjar kit has one on each sprue. Not as big and clunky as the Guard ones, would look ok  sizewise on DKoK/Grognards I think. 

I had forgotten about those but only have the one box and don't like them as much as I had hoped. I am almost tempted to use some instana-mold and make a few packs out of Green stuff. Maybe. 

 

 

Update-ish.

 All the Heavy weapons teams are textured and primed now some weapons getting a goat of English Yew green by Ceramcoat, washed on in ...two thin coats, maybe three. 

Weirdly I am no longer sure I like these German gasmask helmets and am going to attempt a little green stuff work on some other heads and see if that works better to what I am imagining.  I think the Napoleonic miniatures have set a bit of a theme I should try to follow. I'll run up some tests and we'll see. I'm still thrilled to have the 'hard part" out of the way. My hands don't really like me building models very much any more. 

 

*** Note to self buy a Deathstrike this year. ***

Update.

 

 I'm just finishing up the 15 heavy weapons. 
Pictures very soon.

I'm still not overly happy with the helmets which is weird because I do like them a lot but I guess they seem out of theme. I'm leaving them on for now and will readdress them in a few months if not sooner. I just don't feel like they capture the hopelessness of the rest of the army but hey have heads and that's good enough for now. 

I think I can work on the rest of the Storm trooper command next and probably a few more conscript bodies. 

One thing I love about this army is that there's always room to go back and put in more details later. 
I need to find another yellow something more of an orange meets tan kinda yellow. I have an idea for squad markings in the back of my mind that I think would work very well on the army as a whole. 

Pictures in the very near future. 
 

Time keeps getting away from me. 
No pictures now but I am set to get them this afternoon. 

Update.

I've just put the primer on the last of the scions command squad and found I have 3 more Grognard bodies and a big pile of bitz. I'm thinking about a second officer.
and if that wasn't enough I have started putting the green stuff on more conscripts. 6 bodies so far and have clipped the next 24 for clean up. I've rounded up my bag of 25 mm bases as well and scrounging up more bitz. I think I am about ready to build a squad of Combat engineers very soonish.  

Not a heck of a lot else Guard related thus far. I'm stull unhappy with the WW1 German helmets that I had been so excited to get but again the French infantry kit in just months away. 
Anything can happen. 

As far as new models go, noting yet. Hopefully something cool will pop up next month. Hopefully I'll be done with the conscripts by then. 
This next batch will put me at 120 of them thus far. 

 

Looking good, really characterful heavy weapon teams.

Haha, yep, I'm trying to really work that in. I want a sort of hopeless ness or nihilism vibe from the soldiers and crews. 

 

The next batch of conscripts is well on it's way. I have to green stuff 24 more heads, the bodies are done and waiting. They should be paint ready some time Saturday or Sunday. 

 

I'm amazed at how quickly they are coming together and how much better they look than the first few units last year. 

 

 

 

 

Looking good, really characterful heavy weapon teams.

Haha, yep, I'm trying to really work that in. I want a sort of hopeless ness or nihilism vibe from the soldiers and crews. 

 

The next batch of conscripts is well on it's way. I have to green stuff 24 more heads, the bodies are done and waiting. They should be paint ready some time Saturday or Sunday. 

 

I'm amazed at how quickly they are coming together and how much better they look than the first few units last year.

 

Everything gets better with practice and you have practiced a lot in what relates to making the necessary modifications with green stuff.

Soon it will seem like you are a machine in a factory pumping out models :)

 

 

Looking good, really characterful heavy weapon teams.

Haha, yep, I'm trying to really work that in. I want a sort of hopeless ness or nihilism vibe from the soldiers and crews. 

 

The next batch of conscripts is well on it's way. I have to green stuff 24 more heads, the bodies are done and waiting. They should be paint ready some time Saturday or Sunday. 

 

I'm amazed at how quickly they are coming together and how much better they look than the first few units last year.

 

Everything gets better with practice and you have practiced a lot in what relates to making the necessary modifications with green stuff.

Soon it will seem like you are a machine in a factory pumping out models :smile.:

 

 

You are far, far, faaaaaaaaaaar too kind.

I did some ugly heads too as well as nicer ones this time. 

 

And as for an update. 8 more to assemble and a small amount of green stuff and it's on to the primer. 

 

I've clipped lots and lots of bits a few days ago. I have a fair sized pile of radios special weapons chain swords pistols and all that good stuff for the next part of this project. I've even found 8 SM scout shot guns as well, for the Combat engineers I hope. 

 

 

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