9th edition incoming

[Dark Shepherd]

Makes charging with vehicles which was good for us anyway even better now

[Lord Blackwood]

Pretty good quality of life change to redemptors as well. 

[Wolf Guard Dan]

It also adds more thought to what unit you will try and tie up a tank with. You won’t just be charging any unit. You’ll have to decide what’s likely to survive the vehicle’s shooting.

 

Blackwood, you’re on to something there. Redemptors, leviathans, all dreadnought Chasis, and even sneaky invictor.

[Dark Shepherd]

Pretty good quality of life change to redemptors as well.

Definitely. Invictors too.

Wulfen dreads inadvertantly get a potential boost by being getting no real boosts so could be good points value

[Valerian]

Invictors also keep their advantage, as their Heavy Bolter counts as a Pistol, so they won't suffer the -1 to Hit against targets "in Engagement Range."

[Guest Triszin]

flamers on wulfen dreads looking better.

 

Bjorn giggling intensifies.

 

FOrgeworld Dreadnaughts GIGGLING LIKE MAD MEN.

[Valerian]

Another huge change now also confirmed:

 

The -1 penalty to Hit with Heavy weapons while Moving now only applies to Infantry.

 

That’s another huge boost to Vehicles and Monstrous Creatures, as well as Attack Bikes, for that matter.

[Wolf Guard Dan]

Another huge change now also confirmed:

The -1 penalty to Hit with Heavy weapons while Moving now only applies to Infantry.

That’s another huge boost to Vehicles and Monstrous Creatures, as well as Attack Bikes, for that matter.

*laughs in redemptor*

[Valerian]

Between these two changes, 9e is definitely boosting the effectiveness of Vehicles and Monstrous Creatures. Small changes with huge impacts.

[Dark Shepherd]

Another huge change now also confirmed:

 

The -1 penalty to Hit with Heavy weapons while Moving now only applies to Infantry.

 

That’s another huge boost to Vehicles and Monstrous Creatures, as well as Attack Bikes, for that matter.

I hope they werent forgetting about bikes when they said infantry only. Attack bikes were pretty unviable for us

 

It would massively benefit heavy weapons on say a big new shiney class of landspeeder

[Valerian]

I might even get the Redemptor that I’ve had in the box for 3 years painted; it’s still in the shrink wrap.

[Valerian]

 

Another huge change now also confirmed:

The -1 penalty to Hit with Heavy weapons while Moving now only applies to Infantry.

That’s another huge boost to Vehicles and Monstrous Creatures, as well as Attack Bikes, for that matter.

I hope they werent forgetting about bikes when they said infantry only. Attack bikes were pretty unviable for us

It would massively benefit heavy weapons on say a big new shiney class of landspeeder

Infantry only is Infantry only. Big boost to Attack Bikes, Land Speeders, everything. And a lot of these units were pretty much unplayable outside of very casual games in 8e. They really needed the change. Definitely coming right on time, with new Primaris Bikes and Speeders coming.

 

I know Suppressors are Infantry, but they need a special rule to negate the Move and Shoot penalty, too.

[Kallas]

I hope they werent forgetting about bikes when they said infantry only. Attack bikes were pretty unviable for us

 

The Warhammer Community article specifically says, "Only Infantry models subtract 1 from their hit rolls when firing Heavy weapons after moving, meaning your Vehicles and Monsters will no longer be affected (nor will Bikes or any other form of non-Infantry units, for that matter)."

 

So yes, Attack Bikes will be moving and shooting with no penalty.

[Dark Shepherd]

 

 

I hope they werent forgetting about bikes when they said infantry only. Attack bikes were pretty unviable for us

The Warhammer Community article specifically says, "Only Infantry models subtract 1 from their hit rolls when firing Heavy weapons after moving, meaning your Vehicles and Monsters will no longer be affected (nor will Bikes or any other form of non-Infantry units, for that matter)."

 

So yes, Attack Bikes will be moving and shooting with no penalty.

Cool. Watched the stream but only glanced at the article. The dream of onslaught bikers lives on

[Iain_Stormeyes]

I might even get the Redemptor that I’ve had in the box for 3 years painted; it’s still in the shrink wrap.

 

Before 9th was announced, I bought 3 Invictors to build and use, and so far they only seem to be getting better.  If they stay at 136 points a piece, they are going to be very popular.

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

I would expect them to go up with everything else. Don forget GW has been pretty open a out everything going up 10 go 20 percent in points when the edition rolls over.

[Karack Blackstone]

12" Flamers, Heavy Flamers, and 18" Flamestorm Cannons might go a long way if they can get it done.

 

And for the record, yes, points would need to be adjusted; I just hope it'd be fun and worth it to use them afterwards!

[One Two Wolf]

So much shooting buff, I really hope Los and terrain changes turn out to be enough. Bjorn and venerable hitting on 2+, all those 4+ become 3+, its gonna be murder for anyone out in the open.

[C0deb1ue]

Anyone seen any rules that help CC yet? Havn't been keeping up with it all but new edition feels v.ranged at the mo!

 

Terrain or reserves info?

[Lord Blackwood]

Anyone seen any rules that help CC yet? Havn't been keeping up with it all but new edition feels v.ranged at the mo!

 

Terrain or reserves info?

 

While we dont know about the specifics for the terrain rules we should be getting some clarity on that this week. 

 

S'far as rules that help melee , a change to minimum board size means shorter distances to travel to get into combat. 

 

Still  a lot to discover though.

[C0deb1ue]

Yeah I saw a good talk about that, though it also means a bunch of ranged weaps also gained pseudo range. The real issue will be reducing rounds of shooting sustained before delivery of peeps!

[C0deb1ue]

Just noticed, that Fabius gets a strategem that allows things to advance and charge at +1 movement for 1 CP.

 

Why do we never get any of these decent delivery strategems... that might allow earlier charges and less shooting

[Valerian]

Blast weapon update. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/10/having-a-blastgw-homepage-post-1/

[Dark Shepherd]

Blast weapon update. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/10/having-a-blastgw-homepage-post-1/

The overrated* missile launcher for Longfangs will go up in points. Plasma Cannons looking like theyll get even better. Am hoping lascannons become good value

 

*am somewhat appropriately lobbing a grenade and walking away from it

[Guest Triszin]

im just sitting back and waiting to see what all the new point values for us will be, until then I have no army in mind.