Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 This is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Assault intercessors are 1pt less than intercessors, do we hold out hope for 17 PT initiates? Also the article wording seems to imply that neophytes will remain at 1w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Well I'm smug enough to be saying, you heard it here first! But i had my doubts to be honest. But there we go. General Strike, WrathOfTheLion and Sword Brother Adelard 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Valkenhayn Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I still don't know how worth it going above 11 models will be in a squad, but between Transhuman, cover, a possible buff to LR Crusaders (everything else seems to be improving) and other such strats, the world is really opening up for us. Hell, even things as they are, 10 man Crusader squads are going to be weirdly efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyB Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Assault intercessors are 1pt less than intercessors, do we hold out hope for 17 PT initiates? Also the article wording seems to imply that neophytes will remain at 1w Yes it does. As they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punchomatic Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I doubt we will be a point cheaper than tac marines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Chainsword vs boltgun has always been an even trade point-wise. For Intercessors, it's chainsword vs better boltgun, so a 1-point discount makes more sense. I wouldn't complain about 17-point Initiates, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal van Trapp Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 So if our crusader squads are going to be 2W and 18ppm, does that mean crusader squads are now a fairly even trade for primaris marines? Assault intercessors are 19ppm, meaning that for +1 point they get +1 attack but not much else, they lose out on the cheaper transport options and (pending a change to the codex) will only potentially get 1 special melee weapon per squad and no flamers (which will now be range 12"), meltaguns (which will not be +2D at half range), or plasma guns (which now only explode on natural 1s). Overall this is a huge plus for our firstborn brothers and as someone who wants to go heavy into assault this edition, I'm hoping that Assault Intercessors get access to the Veteran Intercessor stratagem just to give them a bonus over our crusader squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 So if our crusader squads are going to be 2W and 18ppm, does that mean crusader squads are now a fairly even trade for primaris marines? Yeah, definitely. At just +1 point for +1 attack, Assault Intercessors still look pretty good, and paying for a fist/hammer is a better deal on a model with 3 attacks rather than 1-2. But weapon options and transport options are still powerful, and mixing in Neophytes to cheaply soak D2 shots could be great. With our various durability buffs, a full-size Crusader squad could be pretty powerful as a melee obsec threat. I think I'll be bringing out the "Black Templar boxing team" (2x5 Initiates with four power fists in a Rhino) a lot more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal van Trapp Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I think I'll be bringing out the "Black Templar boxing team" (2x5 Initiates with four power fists in a Rhino) a lot more often. Sounds like a hell of a good unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Well I'm smug enough to be saying, you heard it here first! But i had my doubts to be honest. But there we go. I hoped you were right, and now we know your source is trustworthy since they've been right like three times? In rumors world that's a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 A drop pod comes full of 20 wounds which is crazy to think about. I may just try running 2 20 man crusader squads. 30 wounds, ablative neophytes, rerolling advances, an aurelian shroud for protection. no pity, no fear, no brakes. Othniel's Blade 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 @Strike The 2 wounds rumour came from the French forums, cannot take credit for it, just the credit of sharing here a while back. The other rumours about necrons and SM were from a different source, that probably I wont come across again xD General Strike 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urkh Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Have we thought about 20 man bolter crusader squads? With the new max range of 30", 15" is rapid fire now. Might not be the biggest deal since the real important range is 9", but extra reach on a big squad shouldn't be overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 That makes our 5+++ FnP litany a bit stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Do you think BT will get a supplement with the next codex, get rolled into the Fists supplement, or keep using Faith and Fury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtBlaster Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I fully expect a supplement this time around, especially because the existing supplements will not be updated this time as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I'm expecting Faith & Fury to be our supplement for at least another codex cycle. Conceivably we could get a full supplement though. painting.for.my.sanity and Sete 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) I think its not too far away but not in the next few month. I think they made all Marines PA Supplements for the codex SM and after a few codicies will be released then the first Supplements will be dropped. I expect the Blood Angels and Death Watch first and later the Space Wolves and Black Templars... but i am very sure we will get a new Supplement within next 12-18 month. Edited August 14, 2020 by Medjugorje General Strike 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I do not expect a BT supplement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I expect a White Dwarf focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 I understand your pessimism but I think GW had to learn everything about his community and I think they are now aware of how much BT Fans they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I'm not even expecting any supplements for the others, besides the new ones (BA etc)... aside from some points adjustment, I think they intend the rest of us to use the old ones (F&F in our case) for a while yet. We'll see though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 They had to because if they dont wrote FF for BT they had a rage again. And yes, when a few of the new units from Indomitus were shown on facebook there was a big rage about missing BT. And they wrote ..."BA, DA, SW, DW and maybe a few more"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 What pessimism? White dwarf would be an improvement on F&F if we got the rules on a Harlequin level, and lore on a Crimson Fist level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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