Marshal van Trapp Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 So one of my friends sent me this on our BT discord, emphasized underlines by him; Seems like we're getting a full supplement to ourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) We've already covered this. It could certainly mean that, I grant you. But there's no guarantees it will take the form of a printed book called "Codex Supplement Black Templars". Faith and Fury was considered our supplement for a while. We could also end up getting a White Dwarf article. Or even another pdf. Temper your expectations. There is hope certainly, but be mindful of all the possible paths it could take. All we know is we've been promised something. Edited October 6, 2020 by Reinhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspeak Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Have sent email to the faq team about the super doctrine. Hope it gets read by them and they give us a super doctrine. Kind of weird not having a super doctrine at the moment when others do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Valkenhayn Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Hah. Just use Silver Templars. It looks so weirdly familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painting.for.my.sanity Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I very much doubt we're getting a full supplement given the difference between our wording and everyone else's in the actual Index. I've sent a quick email to the FAQ team thanking them for updating things, but asking if the lack of a super doctrine is an oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Hah. Just use Silver Templars. It looks so weirdly familiar. No. redmapa, templargdt and Shamansky 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 So one of my friends sent me this on our BT discord, emphasized underlines by him; Seems like we're getting a full supplement to ourselves If they wrote this article and then no new supplement came out it would be very bumbling work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) And as I always said... The first survey brought us the SoB. And the secound one will bring us our identity back. 1. they already mentioned us a few times (which was not the case in the early days of 8th edition) 2. they gave the DA, BA, SW an special Supplement just in P.A. - and us because they aware of the new codex and their new supplements 3. with all the love from the youtubers (Helsreach, Primaris and this russion guy who showed us a fight against orks) AND the influence of Valrak they see what potential there is. 4. At least we all recognized that GW just learned how their community think in the last 3 years. - all the rules improvements ( think about how bad the 8th edition would have been if there were no rule changes like rule of 3, all the FAQs, ....) After a long time were people were disappointed how weak Space Marines are the new codex last year 5. The SW + BA get their new Supplement this year but the DA are missing - I cannot think they are the only SM release next year... there must be another one too. And hey: we are sepperated from the Faith and Fury in the article and the pdf is new... I am sure this was just a small introduction in our much bigger Supplement. Lets see how the new Supplements for Blood Angels, Space Wolves .... are in comparison to their PA content. Edited October 6, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 And as I always said... The first survey brought us the SoB. And the secound one will bring us our identity back. 1. they already mentioned us a few times (which was not the case in the early days of 8th edition) 2. they gave the DA, BA, SW an special Supplement just in P.A. - and us because they aware of the new codex and their new supplements 3. with all the love from the youtubers (Helsreach, Primaris and this russion guy who showed us a fight against orks) AND the influence of Valrak they see what potential there is. 4. At least we all recognized that GW just learned how their community think in the last 3 years. - all the rules improvements ( think about how bad the 8th edition would have been if there were no rule changes like rule of 3, all the FAQs, ....) After a long time were people were disappointed how weak Space Marines are the new codex last year 5. The SW + BA get their new Supplement this year but the DA are missing - I cannot think they are the only SM release next year... there must be another one too. And hey: we are sepperated from the Faith and Fury in the article and the pdf is new... I am sure this was just a small introduction in our much bigger Supplement. Lets see how the new Supplements for Blood Angels, Space Wolves .... are in comparison to their PA content. Valid points across. But temper your expectations. Holding expectations the past 5 years has led to us being burned virtually every single time. I expect we will get something, but its merely out of interest of self preserving my psyche that I don't hold any expectations beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I noticed today that all of yesterday's documents are in the FAQ section of War Com. Except ours. Probably because they don't have art for ours. Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Aside from that one bladeguard, there isn't even any studio painted Primaris BT models. Which is why F&F only had photos of 2005 era models. There's been some new artwork, but you could probably count the instances on one hand (2 fingers?), so there's very little besides text and classic art and marine photos they could stick in to one. Unless they've had a bunch of made in secret... but that's not an assumption I'm willing to make at this junction. atropos_priest 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Agreed. Two models I know of: Castellan in first 8th codex and the BladeGuard. Art: the Templars fighting the khorne daemons in the 8th codex. (The image that made the officers arm look tiny in a massive pauldron) The drop assault image in 9th codex. I think that's it...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punchomatic Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Y’all realize it’s impossible to read the tea leaves here, right? Whoever wrote the pdf is not the same person or team that write the article. GW has proven over and over that they are nothing if not inconsistent. It’s literally impossible to tell what’s an intentional hint and what’s oversight. Marshal Reinhard, painting.for.my.sanity and Champion Rawne 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I'm not convinced that they've promised us anything here; it could easily just be sloppy wording where they accidentally lumped us in with the others. Still, replacing F&F with a free PDF less than a year after its release is weird, and being stuck in a PDF long-term would also be weird, so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Once again, rules are fleeting and temporary, and have little long term value (none I would say). A proper supplement would at least have fluff however, which does have a long term value. (And only if proper, a reprint of the old 4th edition codex would just be lazy, but sadly isn't outside the realm of possibility... if they even do a printed supplement, which I'll believe first when I see it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I don't believe the fluff writers that lazy, I was really impressed when I read the IA articles for the Crimson Fists and Assasins how well the writers summarised a lot of older sources of old lore, and still brought them up to date. I'm confident they would do an alright job. For instance, i noticed that in the screenshot I saw of a Black Templar order of battle in the new codex, all of the units are described as Crusader Squads, including at least one which is primaris. templargdt 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) Check the wording: " If a Black Templars rule from psychic awakening Faith and Fury does not feature in this document it cannot be used" What's missing? Knights of Sigismund. Cant be used. Since this is intentional, hold on to your butts. It will be adressed eventually. Edited October 6, 2020 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 It just seems really strange for it to be intentional. When you consider the new buffs they gave to Dark Angels in the interim, why not just carry over our existing rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 It just seems really strange for it to be intentional. When you consider the new buffs they gave to Dark Angels in the interim, why not just carry over our existing rule? Indeed it is strange. I believe it might be changed for something else. It was not adressed by WHC staff on FB or twitter aswell, which further reinforces my suspicion of it being intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Yeah, those comments were just flat out ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjulhu Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 It's ignored because its an obviously daft mistake to make in what was mostly a copy paste job, from a community management persepctive it's easier to ignore and fix quietly than answer and draw attention to it. Worry not when the faq for the new marine codex drops there will be a quiet update and Knights of Sigismund will be back in all its badly written and underwhelming glory. painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 I don't believe the fluff writers that lazy, I was really impressed when I read the IA articles for the Crimson Fists and Assasins how well the writers summarised a lot of older sources of old lore, and still brought them up to date. I'm confident they would do an alright job. For instance, i noticed that in the screenshot I saw of a Black Templar order of battle in the new codex, all of the units are described as Crusader Squads, including at least one which is primaris. can you show us this screenshot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) It's ignored because its an obviously daft mistake to make in what was mostly a copy paste job, from a community management persepctive it's easier to ignore and fix quietly than answer and draw attention to it. Worry not when the faq for the new marine codex drops there will be a quiet update and Knights of Sigismund will be back in all its badly written and underwhelming glory. Could very well be, but like I said: "If a Black Templars rule from psychic awakening Faith and Fury does not feature in this document it cannot be used" This seems oddly specific, for just the 1 rule that's actually missing. Edited October 6, 2020 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) It's ignored because its an obviously daft mistake to make in what was mostly a copy paste job, from a community management persepctive it's easier to ignore and fix quietly than answer and draw attention to it. Worry not when the faq for the new marine codex drops there will be a quiet update and Knights of Sigismund will be back in all its badly written and underwhelming glory. thats what I think too. But I already wrote GW thats the chance to improve the rule and make the last angry fanbase happy. ( I really think except the current SW - which I suspect get their flow back in the supplement - we are the only community which is unhappy with our current situation since the beginning of 8th edition. Some people say the Xenos are not as supported as the Imperium but then they get really good rules or model support in any time - the GK used to be very weak a long time but in PA they get very powerful .... tau are in a bad place at the moment but had their shining moments in last edition(s) ) It's ignored because its an obviously daft mistake to make in what was mostly a copy paste job, from a community management persepctive it's easier to ignore and fix quietly than answer and draw attention to it. Worry not when the faq for the new marine codex drops there will be a quiet update and Knights of Sigismund will be back in all its badly written and underwhelming glory. Could very well be, but like I said: "If a Black Templars rule from psychic awakening Faith and Fury does not feature in this document it cannot be used" This seems oddly specific, for just the 1 rule that's actually missing. If GW is not interested in us - they would have done not the conent of last few month to mention us here and there... They wouldnt have painted any model AND they would give us a weak Superdoctrine and didnt cut us any Super doctrine... Except there is a person in the GW headquaters which really hate us... but then we get finally cutted anyway or worst... but thats a point I really not expect. GW is not that fast and their plans have a long run so its more likely that a new edition make a lot of work and the missing super docrine is just a mistake and will be in the last FAQ finally - or redone in a few days and they already have plans to redone it in the supplement next year. Edited October 6, 2020 by Medjugorje Denton25 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 There's also the Company Champion limitation, and the no Librarians rule. I know the no Librarians rule is in the new codex, but I don't know about the Company Champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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