WrathOfTheLion Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) It goes by keyword. Repulsor executioner has the Repulsor keyword, so it can be upgraded. Just like Dreadnought includes normal box dreadnoughts, venerable dreadnoughts and redemptor dreadnoughts, and land raider includes land raiders, land raider crusaders, land raider redeemers, etc. Edit: I don't see the Repulsor keyword on the Repulsor executioner. Perhaps that gets an FAQ, so that's interesting. All the other land raider variants have the land raider keyword. Given that they have one painted, they expect you to be able to use a repulsor executioner I think. Edited January 22, 2021 by WrathOfTheLion Brother Ramael 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5657285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Aaaand...nada in the preview, other than they mentioned "Dark Angels" a few times, which means it will be in the next preview. Damn you COVID-19!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5657696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Aaaand...nada in the preview, other than they mentioned "Dark Angels" a few times, which means it will be in the next preview. Damn you COVID-19!!! Well, consider this: at least we didn't get any Paragon Warsuit! Edited January 23, 2021 by Brother Ramael FarFromSam and shabbadoo 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5657708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 They already showed our book off in a previous preview, I think anything further will be in warcom articles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5657716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 As well, they put up the notice for the BGV preorder showcasing the DW ones.... with a cute, bone painted repulsor executioner. I don't remember any mention of executiones being able to become DW, what gives? This repulsor is also in C:SM too :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5657746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8Keeper Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Aaaand...nada in the preview, other than they mentioned "Dark Angels" a few times, which means it will be in the next preview. Damn you COVID-19!!! Well, consider this: at least we didn't get any Paragon Warsuit! I actually kinda like it, each to their own WARMASTER_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5657984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 They did say it was right around the corner, so I think that bodes well for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Aaaand...nada in the preview, other than they mentioned "Dark Angels" a few times, which means it will be in the next preview. Damn you COVID-19!!!Well, consider this: at least we didn't get any Paragon Warsuit! I actually kinda like it, each to their own . As for DA, I kinda think in a warped way that we are closer now. If we'd have had a preview it would make me think its a bit further off in the pipeline. From just the image, I like the Paragon Warsuit, will be a nice addition to my sisters collection. Now the datasheet might change my opinion. But I just noticed that the DA codex is no longer listed on the FAQ page, but the Drukhari codex still is. Codex is also not on the GW site. That leads me to think we are going up for pre-order next. Edited January 23, 2021 by ValourousHeart WARMASTER_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarisqc Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 ... But I just noticed that the DA codex is no longer listed on the FAQ page, but the Drukhari codex still is. Codex is also not on the GW site. That leads me to think we are going up for pre-order next. Tomorow will have the announcement for the week. Maybe we get DA supplement available for pre order on jan 30 for a release on febuary 6? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 ... But I just noticed that the DA codex is no longer listed on the FAQ page, but the Drukhari codex still is. Codex is also not on the GW site. That leads me to think we are going up for pre-order next. Tomorow will have the announcement for the week. Maybe we get DA supplement available for pre order on jan 30 for a release on febuary 6? it would be too near to the DG codex preorder I guess we will have the prerder on 13th february and the release 20the february (so one month after the Nurgle followers) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8Keeper Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Well it's definitely bladeguard for pre-order next week so I don't think it will be our codex too. I'm inclined to agree with Master Sheol's dates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I don't really care if Weapons From the Dark Age sticks around or not. I can't tell if P L A S M A is something GW put on us or if the global DA community at large leaned into it and it just stuck for years. It was us. The B&C Dark Angel board got a lot of attention after the Eye of Terror global campaign. We had a massive conversation going when GW told us Dark Angels were getting their own codex in the next edition of the game. Broadly speaking there were two camps: those that wanted more of a stress on the monastic knight aspects and those that wanted more of a stress on the esoteric weapons rumored to be available to the inheritors of the First Legion. Mind you, all that meant at the time was enough Terminator armor to reliably outfit 100 marines (no small feat) and a predilection for plasma guns in tactical squads and every Dark Angel player wanting an edge taking four plasma combibolters in a command squad along with the standard to wreck a choice unit's day. The knightly stuff had an uphill battle as the Templars had quickly become the poster boys for anything like that. In end we got plasma cannons in tactical squds (when other chapters didn't), plasma landspeeder, Black Knights, and Deathwing Knights. Not a bad split on the difference in terms of models and rules. WARMASTER_ and INKS 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtariOnzo Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Only thing would be the new DW lt but we already have the DW termie box to make those. Maaaaybe a hounds of morkai style ‘upgraded’ bladeguard unit was an outside possibility? But the leaked points already told us that wasn’t happening... Surprised they went with generic chaplain rather than lazarus or lt (BA and SW got their special characters) but again it’s still on theme Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Something tells me it's going to be another chapter of "Fallens, the best thing no one ever will want to have anything to do with", I suspect they will go heavy handed in the crusade part of the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtariOnzo Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Crusade is exactly where the Fallen related strats and modifications belong, so I count that as a good thing. I'm interested in if our psychic powers will remain the same or if there will have been some tweaks or new powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jings Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Kind of weird you guys didn't get a "New" unit in the vein of Hounds of Morkai or Death Company Intercessors. On the other hand, both units have been disappointing, so you're not missing out. Eh between BGVs being Deathwing (and likely having access to their abilities) and Outriders/Storm Speeders having access to the Ravenwing buffs, we're basically getting upgraded versions of those units. Fingers crossed Outriders get an extra attack for being Vets too, and we'll have 5 upgraded Primaris units which will be pretty sweet. WARMASTER_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davextreme Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 From what’s been on the Warhammer-Community site, the Index PDF, and the Munitorium Field Manual, here are my realistic expectations for what we’re getting: Black Knights are Elites, command squad rules, etc from the current Index. All-Ravenwing Outriders detachments and all-Deathwing Vanguard detachments get ObSec Strikemaster, a Deathwing Terminator Lieutenant (Tactical precision aura + maybe a special “pick one Deathwing unit in your command phase” buff), but no model for him—build your own from the existing Deathwing kits. “Rites of Initiation” buffs for adding units to the Deathwing, including Indomitus/Bladeguard-style Lieutenants. Interromancy psychic powers. Crusade stuff will be really cool (and people will continue not playing Crusade even though it’s really cool). I expect that Infantry Deathwing will all get Inner Circle and Bike Ravenwing will get Jink. Unsure of Land Speeder Ravenwing. And what we aren’t getting (again, guesses here): No Lion. No Rubicon characters No Primaris Interrogator-Chaplains No new models. WARMASTER_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtrouble Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 They could give us a Primaris Interrogator-Chaplain data sheet. Could happen without the model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFromSam Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Agree with thank the Lion for no paragon suit. What an unwelcome addition. Any way, let's see what we get! I really hope we're not getting another 50 dollar fee for rehashed strats that we just bought 6 months ago and will need to buy again in 6 months. Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isual Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Something tells me it's going to be another chapter of "Fallens, the best thing no one ever will want to have anything to do with", I suspect they will go heavy handed in the crusade part of the book. I really hope they are there, and ONLY there in the crusade part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanlee Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) I'm going to try and order the limited edition codex I wanted to get a few of the new speeder but them being hideous overcosted has put me off somewhat Edited January 25, 2021 by oldmanlee Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel of Solitude Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 From what’s been on the Warhammer-Community site, the Index PDF, and the Munitorium Field Manual, here are my realistic expectations for what we’re getting: Black Knights are Elites, command squad rules, etc from the current Index. All-Ravenwing Outriders detachments and all-Deathwing Vanguard detachments get ObSec Strikemaster, a Deathwing Terminator Lieutenant (Tactical precision aura + maybe a special “pick one Deathwing unit in your command phase” buff), but no model for him—build your own from the existing Deathwing kits. “Rites of Initiation” buffs for adding units to the Deathwing, including Indomitus/Bladeguard-style Lieutenants. Interromancy psychic powers. Crusade stuff will be really cool (and people will continue not playing Crusade even though it’s really cool). I expect that Infantry Deathwing will all get Inner Circle and Bike Ravenwing will get Jink. Unsure of Land Speeder Ravenwing. And what we aren’t getting (again, guesses here): No Lion. No Rubicon characters No Primaris Interrogator-Chaplains No new models. That's a good summary. I'm getting very giddy over the prospect of ObSec Deathwing with 2+/5++ and always-on Transhuman Physiology - they'll be brutal objective holders! The challenge is going to be working out how to fill the rest of the army. No Lion is unsurprising, and given that none of the other Chapters had any Rubicon characters, that's not surprising either. It feels like these codex supplements aren't driving the lore very much, so we'll have to wait for whatever the next campaign series is for any big reveals - be it the Lion, Luther, or a Primaris Azrael... No Primaris Interrogator-Chaplains is disappointing, but it's in line with the lore. There was a Black Library short story a while back which essentially portrayed the Firstborn, Inner Circle members of the Reclusiam as viewing their Primaris brethren as not being strong-willed enough. Not until Asmodai himself goes through the Rubicon are we likely to see Primaris Interrogator-Chaplains. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MistaGav Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I'm sure we'll get better rules previews this week but I swear yesterday I saw an image of some sneak peak rules for Interrogator chaplains. It was a table of 3 special rules relating to litanies and stuff like that. Made me think we'll get an upgrade type path similar to chapter masters, champions and all that but we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 They are still establishing the current story, definitely expected no Lion or anything like that. They will save that stuff for a campaign book, the main purpose of this was to rebase our codex on the base codex to simplify maintenance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakye Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Yep, nothing super overpowered but also nothing that isn't decent either, the Fire discipline fits my play style well enough, I have been pushing melee Dark Angels for awhile now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368074-codex-predictions-hopes/page/9/#findComment-5658909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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