Loquille Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) We have a Legion Dispatch. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/14/the-new-imperial-fists-praetors-are-perfect-for-butchering-iron-warriors/?utm_source=TW&utm_medium=TW&utm_campaign=WH Edited to add pictures. Edited May 14, 2021 by Loquille Morngrym, Cris R and Pacific81 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zedmeister Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Now those are nice. Nice baroque look without being over the top. Imperial Fist Swordsmen indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammel Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Not that we needed confirmation that they're a legal option, but Tartaros storm shields! God, if there's a new elite Terminator unit with this aesthetic.... Cris R and Hungry Nostraman Lizard 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Loquille nice find, cheers for linking here! I'm pleased to see continued model support and udpates, adding a lot more dynamics into these models too. But I can't help but feel that the salt rubbing is a bit much for some of the other legions. IF already have a number of still currently available options which outnumber other legions, so this sorta bewilders me from a 30k perspective, but of course these can appeal in 40k and will no doubt see more market share. With these updates however I can at least continue to keep the hope for my legion :) Brother Sutek 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Given we've been told that certain Heresy releases were largely designed when the artist in question had some free time (the Arquitor and the Sabre, iirc?) it's possible that they are just picking up work that they want to currently, rather than working to a set plan of model x, y and then z. I do love them, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zedmeister Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) Loquille nice find, cheers for linking here! I'm pleased to see continued model support and udpates, adding a lot more dynamics into these models too. But I can't help but feel that the salt rubbing is a bit much for some of the other legions. IF already have a number of still currently available options which outnumber other legions, so this sorta bewilders me from a 30k perspective, but of course these can appeal in 40k and will no doubt see more market share. With these updates however I can at least continue to keep the hope for my legion True, but I get a sense this is about gap filling and tide you over until they're ready for, what I don't know. Yes, Imperial Fists have a lot but it's been quite some time since they've had something. Same as Sons of Horus. So probably expect something for another Legion that hasn't had anything in some time in the next article. Prætors and Leviathans are definitely easy for them to do while going through the missing personalities. Edited May 14, 2021 by zedmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allart01 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 They can still bring out their absolute best for the Heresy when they want. These models look amazing. Hungry Nostraman Lizard, Cris R, Denton25 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammel Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) IF certainly have a bumper range of generic character models, but at risk of starting a race to the bottom (when we're all starving for love), I think it's also worth noting that they're something of an outlier in having no unique unit sculpts (merely upgrade packs) and only two non-Primarch special characters to their name. The legion is in a perfectly fine place and we all obviously want broader rules and kit updates first, but I do think they'd be relatively high priority for a second pass. Edited May 14, 2021 by Scammel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Given the next book is allegedly Dark Mechanicum, could it be we see Imperial Fists updates there? If it's largely focusing on the Schism of Mars it'd make sense to drop in the Fists here and there, given the obvious proximity - and the perfect opportunity to throw in a few more named characters. Camba-Diaz certainly comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) FW have shown little inclination to cover Mars in a black book, for various reasons. I wouldn't expect it. Hoping to see some EC Praetors soon. Edited May 14, 2021 by Marshal Loss 1ncarnadine 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorpion Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 We still have the "legion dispatch", but man I have mixed feelings about that...We have 4 legion-specific tartaros Praetors, but not a generic one. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Guys not sure if this is the right place. Are Knights discontinued?? I went to browse the site and see many are now fully unavailable not just out of stock! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I'm hoping for some nice Raven Guard praetors at some point, it would have been nice if they had done more of these nice-to-have releases during the time after book 9 instead of having nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 We still have the "legion dispatch", but man I have mixed feelings about that... We have 4 legion-specific tartaros Praetors, but not a generic one. Why? Because there is one, but the tribune was a limited time deal, stupidly. Should absolutely be a standard kit. Cris R, Aias and Morngrym 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Yeah I have to get both of them and a tartaros unit to accompany the sword and board praetor. Awesome sculpts, totally in love. I might even get the MK III or IF command squad to accompany the power armoured praetor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerOrders Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Don't have any desire to play IF... But these beauties have me thinking I stand to get a small allied detachment to accompany these guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I really like these! Might snag the power armored one for a conversion. Not that we needed confirmation that they're a legal option, but Tartaros storm shields! God, if there's a new elite Terminator unit with this aesthetic.... Huscarls, maybe? IF certainly have a bumper range of generic character models, but at risk of starting a race to the bottom (when we're all starving for love), I think it's also worth noting that they're something of an outlier in having no unique unit sculpts (merely upgrade packs) and only two non-Primarch special characters to their name. The legion is in a perfectly fine place and we all obviously want broader rules and kit updates first, but I do think they'd be relatively high priority for a second pass. I think the Salamanders and Iron Warriors desperately need some love in the Heresy. Salamanders have... Vulkan. As well as a Castraferrum Dreadnought that's "meant" to be that character, or most players use as him. Cassios, I think is his name? Iron Warriors had an event exclusive, no Havocs, and Perturabo... Given the next book is allegedly Dark Mechanicum, could it be we see Imperial Fists updates there? If it's largely focusing on the Schism of Mars it'd make sense to drop in the Fists here and there, given the obvious proximity - and the perfect opportunity to throw in a few more named characters. Camba-Diaz certainly comes to mind. That would be cool, I'd like to see Fafnir more. Wouldn't Camba-Diaz share some overlap with Pollux? Though more in the "Character" series would be welcome, especially if they come back with those fancy display bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerOrders Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I really like these! Might snag the power armored one for a conversion. Not that we needed confirmation that they're a legal option, but Tartaros storm shields! God, if there's a new elite Terminator unit with this aesthetic.... Huscarls, maybe? IF certainly have a bumper range of generic character models, but at risk of starting a race to the bottom (when we're all starving for love), I think it's also worth noting that they're something of an outlier in having no unique unit sculpts (merely upgrade packs) and only two non-Primarch special characters to their name. The legion is in a perfectly fine place and we all obviously want broader rules and kit updates first, but I do think they'd be relatively high priority for a second pass. I think the Salamanders and Iron Warriors desperately need some love in the Heresy. Salamanders have... Vulkan. As well as a Castraferrum Dreadnought that's "meant" to be that character, or most players use as him. Cassios, I think is his name? Iron Warriors had an event exclusive, no Havocs, and Perturabo... Given the next book is allegedly Dark Mechanicum, could it be we see Imperial Fists updates there? If it's largely focusing on the Schism of Mars it'd make sense to drop in the Fists here and there, given the obvious proximity - and the perfect opportunity to throw in a few more named characters. Camba-Diaz certainly comes to mind. That would be cool, I'd like to see Fafnir more. Wouldn't Camba-Diaz share some overlap with Pollux? Though more in the "Character" series would be welcome, especially if they come back with those fancy display bases. Definitely agreed, although I think if we mention Huscarls you sort of come to the fact that the awesomeness that is Archamus needs a model. ...Hmm, you know it is a bit weird but for all the IF are very Terminator-orientated, almost none of their notable Heresy characters actually have instances of wearing it. Archamus wore MKII, Fafnir MKIII and I think Diaz also wore MKIII. No terminator to be found. Which is a bit weird given Archamus, but that might just be down to Praetorian of Dorn being a bit too much of a thriller for Terminator to make sense for most of the book. In terms of attention... I think it is hard to argue anyone is suffering as much as the UM in terms of actual models. As far as mechanics... *Awkwardly glances at EC army* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Funnily due to mainly reading the bl series i really dont see IF as such a terminator heavy force in my mind. More like classic infantry. StrangerOrders 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammel Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Funnily due to mainly reading the bl series i really dont see IF as such a terminator heavy force in my mind. More like classic infantry. IF might be the most... not exactly confused legion out there, but they're probably the single largest melting pot of elements (which is ironic, given their reputation for being boringly straight-laced). They're: - Siege and fortification experts - Void combat and teleportation specialists - Artillery and heavy weapon-wranglers - Stoic and disciplined, with a penchant for serried ranks of bolters - Zealous crusaders who seek out personal combat, with a preference for shields and other defensive equipment About the only things they're not renowned for are speed and infiltration operations, and even the former is somewhat offset by famously-effective void-capable craft. It's difficult to row back on much of this but I'd be very interested in seeing the designers attempt to coalesce these themes into something more coherent. Hungry Nostraman Lizard and MARK0SIAN 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsam Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 There's an irony there that they're one of the best Sky Hunter legions with their 2+ heavy bolters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) Funnily due to mainly reading the bl series i really dont see IF as such a terminator heavy force in my mind. More like classic infantry. IF might be the most... not exactly confused legion out there, but they're probably the single largest melting pot of elements (which is ironic, given their reputation for being boringly straight-laced). They're: - Siege and fortification experts - Void combat and teleportation specialists - Artillery and heavy weapon-wranglers - Stoic and disciplined, with a penchant for serried ranks of bolters - Zealous crusaders who seek out personal combat, with a preference for shields and other defensive equipment About the only things they're not renowned for are speed and infiltration operations, and even the former is somewhat offset by famously-effective void-capable craft. It's difficult to row back on much of this but I'd be very interested in seeing the designers attempt to coalesce these themes into something more coherent. You said it better than i could but i find myself struggling when i want to pick something for conversions because they dont have that one thing that many legions have. I really like the legion (i own some 8k points i better do like them) but they are kind of scattered in who they are. Edited May 14, 2021 by Marshal Vespasian Hungry Nostraman Lizard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Funnily due to mainly reading the bl series i really dont see IF as such a terminator heavy force in my mind. More like classic infantry. IF might be the most... not exactly confused legion out there, but they're probably the single largest melting pot of elements (which is ironic, given their reputation for being boringly straight-laced). They're: - Siege and fortification experts - Void combat and teleportation specialists - Artillery and heavy weapon-wranglers - Stoic and disciplined, with a penchant for serried ranks of bolters - Zealous crusaders who seek out personal combat, with a preference for shields and other defensive equipment About the only things they're not renowned for are speed and infiltration operations, and even the former is somewhat offset by famously-effective void-capable craft. It's difficult to row back on much of this but I'd be very interested in seeing the designers attempt to coalesce these themes into something more coherent. I disagree. The first three go together; they're noted as being void siege specialists. They besieged planet orbital plates, space forts, asteroid colonies. In many ways, they're the closest to actually being naval marines. Void combat creates breaches and opportunities for teleportation and boarding craft. Secure breaches, start deploying traditional siege methods (for orbital plates) or to better take 10s or 100s kilometer long void craft/stations like a city. The Templars are not Black Templars, they're zealous in the traditional sense, "marked by fervent partisanship for a person, a cause, or an ideal" while not yet fanatical, "marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion." More to the point, it's nice to have a monthly article. I'm a-okay with resin legion specific models, especially if it means a legion-agnostic praetor kit eventually comes in plastic. Doctor Perils, Hungry Nostraman Lizard and Petitioner's City 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvis Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Given the next book is allegedly Dark Mechanicum, could it be we see Imperial Fists updates there? If it's largely focusing on the Schism of Mars it'd make sense to drop in the Fists here and there, given the obvious proximity - and the perfect opportunity to throw in a few more named characters. Camba-Diaz certainly comes to mind. RIP. He had a good end though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvis Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I really like these! Might snag the power armored one for a conversion. Not that we needed confirmation that they're a legal option, but Tartaros storm shields! God, if there's a new elite Terminator unit with this aesthetic.... Huscarls, maybe? IF certainly have a bumper range of generic character models, but at risk of starting a race to the bottom (when we're all starving for love), I think it's also worth noting that they're something of an outlier in having no unique unit sculpts (merely upgrade packs) and only two non-Primarch special characters to their name. The legion is in a perfectly fine place and we all obviously want broader rules and kit updates first, but I do think they'd be relatively high priority for a second pass. I think the Salamanders and Iron Warriors desperately need some love in the Heresy. Salamanders have... Vulkan. As well as a Castraferrum Dreadnought that's "meant" to be that character, or most players use as him. Cassios, I think is his name? Iron Warriors had an event exclusive, no Havocs, and Perturabo... Given the next book is allegedly Dark Mechanicum, could it be we see Imperial Fists updates there? If it's largely focusing on the Schism of Mars it'd make sense to drop in the Fists here and there, given the obvious proximity - and the perfect opportunity to throw in a few more named characters. Camba-Diaz certainly comes to mind.That would be cool, I'd like to see Fafnir more. Wouldn't Camba-Diaz share some overlap with Pollux? Though more in the "Character" series would be welcome, especially if they come back with those fancy display bases. Yeah I really want to see fafnir. I think I may try to convert this PA model to him, using two of the axes in one of the upgrade sets FW makes. The mk iv set I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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