Gorgoff Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Removing Initiative but not adding in Movement and leaving WS thru T on the current system seems an extremely unusual way to ‘revamp’ the game. As an aside you can find the Black Book style army list page templates and the FW Heresy font is something like Old Caslon. It wouldn’t be hard to forge for a troll. It makes no sense at all, yes. That's why I don't give a lot about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5768715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 The year ist almost over. The new year will bring us news! :-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5768725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Yeah, seems a bit odd and an otherwise equivalent datasheet isn't really meaningful regardless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 If FW keeps his schedule we'll see another new unit on monday. What will it be? Finally some UM Destroyers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 If FW keeps his schedule we'll see another new unit on monday. What will it be? Finally some UM Destroyers? Something noone will expect. WE Recon Marines Salamanders Assault Squad Blood Angels Heavy Support Squad Something Like this. Imren 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 If FW keeps his schedule we'll see another new unit on monday. What will it be? Finally some UM Destroyers? Something noone will expect. WE Recon Marines Salamanders Assault Squad Blood Angels Heavy Support Squad Something Like this. At least they were all units who at least existed in the background so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagashnee Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) If FW keeps his schedule we'll see another new unit on monday. What will it be? Finally some UM Destroyers? Is there anything in the lore that makes them different to normal destroyers? Kinda hoping we break the mold and give talons, mech, militia, solar a new unit. Keep it a nice 20-80% balance pro marine, but at least pretend the other factions exist too. Or go real spicy and throw us a total curve ball, knight or titan unit. Edited December 3, 2021 by nagashnee Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 More generic daemons would be good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 If FW keeps his schedule we'll see another new unit on monday. What will it be? Finally some UM Destroyers? Is there anything in the lore that makes them different to normal destroyers? Kinda hoping we break the mold and give talons, mech, militia, solar a new unit. Keep it a nice 20-80% balance pro marine, but at least pretend the other factions exist too. Or go real spicy and throw us a total curve ball, knight or titan unit. I like the idea that IM get more stuff. So far those units where always legion specific ones but if they give IM stuff like buggies or bikes I'd be very happy. More generic daemons would be good. You mean model wise? Hungry Nostraman Lizard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) I know I'm a tiny minority but I want the Lucius Pattern Warhound. Technically it is a HH kit. ;) But I take anything else as well. :-D Edited December 3, 2021 by derLumpi Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Hopefully they show us something for the emperors children! Id love to have rules for the Sun Killers! Corswain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Hopefully they show us something for the emperors children! Id love to have rules for the Sun Killers! That Visions of Heresy book and the old tcc would be a fantastic source for new units. That was the origin of the Sunkillers, right!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Its exactly the same as the current entry on the GW website aside from the colour of the sidebar and possibly page which is tactically fuzzy in this shot. It also seems to be a shot of a screen (might be the potato quality instead) which makes the "under the table furtive" angle seem odd unless they take photos gangsta style I suspect its a colour shifted troll, i would expect if they are changing the "branding" of a heresy data sheet then we would see some changes to the most iconic example of one tbh. GW sheet for comparison: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Legion-Tactical-Squad.pdf Just pointing out that there is no Initiative stat in the potato cam image.. I hope that they don't adept the :cussty 40k cc system. "Oh, those weak humans attack before Horus, because they charged him". this . Horus " you've dirtied my armoured suit ! it's dirty now! DIRTY ! ! ! " As he wipe the human past from his boots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5769535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 FWIW that potato cam image going around is claimed to be a fake by a person who made it. Apparently it was meant as a joke/"look how easy it is to fake stuff!" in a localized context and well.....the internet happened. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 FWIW that potato cam image going around is claimed to be a fake by a person who made it. Apparently it was meant as a joke/"look how easy it is to fake stuff!" in a localized context and well.....the internet happened. I did sadly call that it could be a hell of a troll. Obviously I hope I'm seriously wrong. I feel GW/FW would have acknowledged if it was a fake though rather than originally simply deleting comments from social media. Unless the hype around it has driven sales I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Yeah but if they start calling out fakes it implicitly acknowledges the true leaks by their silence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 If FW keeps his schedule we'll see another new unit on monday. What will it be? Finally some UM Destroyers? Hoping it is the Legion Specific rules for Destroyers all round Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Yeah but if they start calling out fakes it implicitly acknowledges the true leaks by their silence. True, I didn't think of that. Regards the box, I'm not too fussed about it (MkVI doesn't MASSIVELY appeal to me for a 30K force, maybe if I end up building a Scouring army) but I seriously hope we do see continued, (more, like it has been) regular support and ideally more stuff in plastic. Are we still waiting on a Malevolence and general FAQ? Been a while since I've checked, I can't even remember where to find the FAQs, did they move to Warhammer Community? LameBeard and MCC 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Yeah but if they start calling out fakes it implicitly acknowledges the true leaks by their silence. True, I didn't think of that. Regards the box, I'm not too fussed about it (MkVI doesn't MASSIVELY appeal to me for a 30K force, maybe if I end up building a Scouring army) but I seriously hope we do see continued, (more, like it has been) regular support and ideally more stuff in plastic. Are we still waiting on a Malevolence and general FAQ? Been a while since I've checked, I can't even remember where to find the FAQs, did they move to Warhammer Community? Im with you on that, Whilst im not overly keen on the MK6 in the box the Rumours of a bigger plastic range that come with it are whats important. Ive heard Valrak say a few times every armour mark is coming in plastic and theres obviously the whole plastic spartan thing. Thats what excites me the most! Plastic Mk II armour and the hope for some sort of plastic vehicle range! Hopefully they show us something for the emperors children! Id love to have rules for the Sun Killers! That Visions of Heresy book and the old tcc would be a fantastic source for new units. That was the origin of the Sunkillers, right!? I think i first read about them in the Index Astartes book.... I cant be sure. But anything that gives us more fluff to use on the tabletop is a winner for me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Next Exemplary Battles article and PDF are up - World Eaters Destroyers are finally here. Loquille 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 First glance...no one is going to take Rampagers ever again are they? Especially as WE special rules mean you can give the entire sqaud chainaxes. SkimaskMohawk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I assumed the fake potato cam leak was the tactical squad one that seemed super fake rather than the much harder to fake photos of minis? Indefragable 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I assumed the fake potato cam leak was the tactical squad one that seemed super fake rather than the much harder to fake photos of minis? Correct. I'm referring to the Tactical squad (blurry) image floating around. A person in a Discord server made it and was not shy about faking it for the LOLz, but people got sucked in anyway (thus proving his point to some degree). Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 I assumed the fake potato cam leak was the tactical squad one that seemed super fake rather than the much harder to fake photos of minis? Hadn't even contemplated that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreagher Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Finally a unit for the XII, where taking your legions special weapons is not absolutely terrible. Now it will mean that nobody will take Rampagers until they get an update, but I won't say no to more reasonably priced caedre weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/68/#findComment-5770416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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