betrayer41 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Now I need to figure out how to get cadre weapons without having to keep buying rampagers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Now I need to figure out how to get cadre weapons without having to keep buying rampagers3D printer goes BRRRRRRRRRRRT But yeah, those Destroyers are what Rampagers should have been. Brother Sutek and Hungry Nostraman Lizard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Now I need to figure out how to get cadre weapons without having to keep buying rampagers3D printer goes BRRRRRRRRRRRT But yeah, those Destroyers are what Rampagers should have been. Just bought the photon mono x last week.....everything is lining up! I literally just yesterday started MKIV destroyers for WE (count as raptors). Now I can throw cadre weapons on them. its fate I tell you Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I'm a bit confused by Bearers of the Blood Hand. You have have to declare a charge against a target within 12", but still can't charge a target you didn't shoot at. So could I use the missile launcher to tag a unit outside of 12" in order to avoid charging? Though I don't know why I wouldn't want to charge with them.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I'm a bit confused by Bearers of the Blood Hand. You have have to declare a charge against a target within 12", but still can't charge a target you didn't shoot at. So could I use the missile launcher to tag a unit outside of 12" in order to avoid charging? Though I don't know why I wouldn't want to charge with them.... Its to prevent shooting at a juicier - but further away - target and charging into a closer - but weaker - unit to protect the unit from the opponents shooting phase. Among other potential interactions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I'm a bit confused by Bearers of the Blood Hand. You have have to declare a charge against a target within 12", but still can't charge a target you didn't shoot at. So could I use the missile launcher to tag a unit outside of 12" in order to avoid charging? Though I don't know why I wouldn't want to charge with them.... Its to prevent shooting at a juicier - but further away - target and charging into a closer - but weaker - unit to protect the unit from the opponents shooting phase. Among other potential interactions. Ah, the unit has to shoot a a target within 12" then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) I'm a bit confused by Bearers of the Blood Hand. You have have to declare a charge against a target within 12", but still can't charge a target you didn't shoot at. So could I use the missile launcher to tag a unit outside of 12" in order to avoid charging? Though I don't know why I wouldn't want to charge with them.... Its to prevent shooting at a juicier - but further away - target and charging into a closer - but weaker - unit to protect the unit from the opponents shooting phase. Among other potential interactions. Ah, the unit has to shoot a a target within 12" then? Its not forced to but unless you want a very melee focussed unit caught out in the open, then yeah, kinda. The interesting wording, though, is that the rule that forces them to Charge applies to your WHOLE detachment. It says ALL MODELS in the detachment - not just those with LA:WE or the Bearers of the Blood Hand rule(s). So, for some of your other units in the army, you might actually WANT to shoot at units outside of 12" so that they arent forced to charge. Edited December 7, 2021 by Slips Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 That “detachment” rule, do we think it’s a misprint? I can’t think of any other unit special rule that spills over like this? Wouldn’t an interaction with the Blood Madness have achieved similar? Need to look at my Legiones Astartes rules again … Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I'm a bit confused by Bearers of the Blood Hand. You have have to declare a charge against a target within 12", but still can't charge a target you didn't shoot at. So could I use the missile launcher to tag a unit outside of 12" in order to avoid charging? Though I don't know why I wouldn't want to charge with them.... Its to prevent shooting at a juicier - but further away - target and charging into a closer - but weaker - unit to protect the unit from the opponents shooting phase. Among other potential interactions. Ah, the unit has to shoot a a target within 12" then? Its not forced to but unless you want a very melee focussed unit caught out in the open, then yeah, kinda. The interesting wording, though, is that the rule that forces them to Charge applies to your WHOLE detachment. It says ALL MODELS in the detachment - not just those with LA:WE or the Bearers of the Blood Hand rule(s). So, for some of your other units in the army, you might actually WANT to shoot at units outside of 12" so that they arent forced to charge. Wild. Non character units changing the entire detachment function. I don't think there is precedent for that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Ya I missed that too on the first go. I feel like it's a screw up, as the fluff for it doesn't talk about the honour inspiring the entire army. Just that the unit is blood thirsty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Well, lets hope they clear up the issue ASAP then. Otherwise, RAW, thats how it works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arendious Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Semi-Coherent World Eater Centurion: "Okay, Third and Fifth Squads, lay covering fire so Second, Fourth, and Sixth can charge the Loyalist line!" Red Hand Squad (in unison): "Leeeeeeeroy Jennnnnkionus!!!!" Now Despondent Centurion: "Nevermind... Everyone, Scream and Leap." lansalt, LameBeard, Bung and 9 others 12 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I guess for a ten to 15 men squad at least 5 falchions are a given, no? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Going to go out on a limb and say it is a typo LameBeard and Setlot 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Going to go out on a limb and say it is a typoMost definitely Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I'm sure fw will faq it eventually... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Is it me or does the plasma gun on the 2nd pages background image look comically oversized compared to the marine holding it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Is it me or does the plasma gun on the 2nd pages background image look comically oversized compared to the marine holding it? Probably because it's a resin Mk II body, the resin casts are notacibly smaller than the plastic ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5770662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsam Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Odd that a destroyer squad doesn't have rad grenades Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5771155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Odd that a destroyer squad doesn't have rad grenades They do... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5771163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Ah hah! They updated the wording for the Bearers of the Blood Hand rule. Now reads "A unit of made up of models with this special rule [...]" Excessus, Astartes Consul, StrangerOrders and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5771164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Zephon looks neat.....keeping that helmet on though. That JP smacks of Chaos Raptors. What pattern is that? Edited December 11, 2021 by bushman101 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5771778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Fafnir Rann ... noice ... Good thing I finally decided to start in my (future) Fists ... Seems like the future will take the direction of a SoT expansion / final black book / etc. ... or they're just making models for all the named characters from the books now. Tiger9gamer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5771909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loquille Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 We have the Khan going up for pre order this week. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/01/02/sunday-preview-two-codexes-one-final-primarch-and-more/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sunday-preview&utm_content=sundaypreview020121&fbclid=IwAR2pseSmv5ITbLjPd8Bq7O51unUkEG9h0K6zd3vkYOldWMpJ-PdMFz8Q03g WrathOfTheLion, Hungry Nostraman Lizard and Gorgoff 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5779004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) Time to celebrate - all 18 Primarchs will be available soon! That's not something I ever thought we'd see when I started hobbying twentyish years ago. Edited January 2, 2022 by Corswain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/69/#findComment-5779023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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