'To Plunder the Stars Themselves' OOC Thread

[Necronaut]

Are we actually at Rank 2 or do we need to spend 1000xp to be at Rank 2? The way starting XP is handled/described in Deathwatch is a little confusing.

[Lysimachus]

I think you're now at Rank 2, so you can spend any of the 2k from 1 or 2.

 

Edit: out of likes for the day!

[Necronaut]

Well what I meant was: does the 1000 "bonus" xp we're granted at character creation (ignoring the additional 750 you gave us each) for initial character customization count towards rank 1 or is that effectively rank 0 spend, and then everything thereafter counts as rank 1 spend?

[Machine God]

Can we buy outside of our speciality?

 

I was looking at Two-weapon Wielder (Ballistic) which is a Rank 1 Assault Marine talent. 

 

(Edit: typo)

Edited January 2, 2022 by Machine God

[Necronaut]

Ah well we were all granted the B&C-exclusive Ultra Premium Tier talent "Our Hands Bring Death" at character creation, which grants us the TWW talents (ballistic & melee) for free. Commissar Molotov came up with that one after a couple of years of dealing with FFG's nonsense in Blackthorn & Swordhand, per my understanding.

[Mazer Rackham]

Well what I meant was: does the 1000 "bonus" xp we're granted at character creation (ignoring the additional 750 you gave us each) for initial character customization count towards rank 1 or is that effectively rank 0 spend, and then everything thereafter counts as rank 1 spend?

 

Since this is a technical query, not a GM one, and I'm parked in the neighbourhood, I may be able to help.

 

All Space Marines start out at 12,000xp (Rank 1) with 1,000xp at Chargen for a total of 13,000xp.  Any extra counts towards the build at Rank 1, unless It is a free advance.  For example - Our Hands Bring Death, (for my games at least) increased your XP amount, but did not count for Ranking up purposes, despite it being worth about 1500xp.

 

By RAW, you only Rank Up when you've Spent the XP earned through play, not GM gifts, so if you're 100xp off Rank 1, you need to spend it at Rank 1 to get to Rank 2.

 

Obviously a lot of GM's will ignore that.

 

So, unless Lysi says otherwise, yes, the 1,750 should count against Ranking Up requirement.

 

(I've gone into this longhand for anyone else with the same query, Necro).

 

[sNIP] Can we buy outside of our speciality?

 

In short, yes you can.  It's called an Elite Advance, and is negotiated with the GM.  Such advances are expensive and usually cost 750xp (on top of the base price for the Skill you want).  Depending on the Advance, you may have to explain it to the GM why you want it, or why you should have it.  You must also have the Rank Requirement to purchase it, or have the Prerequisites.  The GM may agree, but may also give you a higher cost, so beware!

 

As you can tell, Elite Advances are pricey!

 

Ah well we were all granted the B&C-exclusive Ultra Premium Tier talent "Our Hands Bring Death" at character creation, which grants us the TWW talents (ballistic & melee) for free. Commissar Molotov came up with that one after a couple of years of dealing with FFG's nonsense in Blackthorn & Swordhand, per my understanding.

 

*Polite cough* 

[Necronaut]

Ah apologies! I literally just tracked down the original post that CM made in the Blackthorn/Swordhand IC thread, and oh how I have erred!

 

Hat tip to Mazer for the Premium tier content.

[Mazer Rackham]

Ah apologies! I literally just tracked down the original post that CM made in the Blackthorn/Swordhand IC thread, and oh how I have erred!

 

Hat tip to Mazer for the Premium tier content.

 

Nah man, I just got rid of some irritating crevice sand.

 

And armpit tentacles.

[Lysimachus]

And just as Necro asked so nicely:

And a close up of Ithan, as I haven't posted one yet:

[Lysimachus]

Ok, so in line with Necro's IC post, everyone has an extra 50xp to spend or save! :D

[Machine God]

Ok, so in line with Necro's IC post, everyone has an extra 50xp to spend or save!

Don't spend it all at once.

[Necronaut]

Hey, I don't see anyone else contributing in this manner! My back creaks under the strain of supporting this ungrateful kill-team!

 

As an aside, an entire kill-team composed of Raven Guard and RG successor chapters could rack up some serious bonus XP after each mission...

[Trokair]

I don't even know that XP can be earned mechanically through player actions in addition to rewards for Mission/role-play.  

 

So Thanks.

[Necronaut]

Yeah the helm picter is a neat chapter trapping from First Founding. And I was just kidding. ;)

[Machine God]

Hey, I don't see anyone else contributing in this manner! My back creaks under the strain of supporting this ungrateful kill-team!

 

As an aside, an entire kill-team composed of Raven Guard and RG successor chapters could rack up some serious bonus XP after each mission...

@Necro - Thank you very much for the extra 50 XP. (Grumbles in Iron Hands 'Should've rolled more DoS')

 

I don't even know that XP can be earned mechanically through player actions in addition to rewards for Mission/role-play.  

 

So Thanks.

@Trokair - See below by the Ninja. Raven Guard wargear - Helmet Picter. After mission review on a Challenging (+0) Tactics test, team members get 50 XP per DoS.

 

Yeah the helm picter is a neat chapter trapping from First Founding. And I was just kidding.

@Necro - Ninja'ed! Appropriately given your Legion.

 

(Edit: typo, Helmet Picter info)

Edited January 4, 2022 by Machine God

[Necronaut]

When I rolled for the helm-picter at the end of the first adventure, I rolled so badly I got like 3 or 4 DoF. Lysimachus mercifully decided not to penalize us any XP.

[Mazer Rackham]

Varn: *examines Vasalius' first combat footage*

 

 

Also Varn: "Hmm.  I think we need an entrance exam."

[Necronaut]

@MR - a depressingly accurate depiction of the events as they transpired.

[Black Cohort]

so I am thinking of getting signature wargear (power axe), and deadeye shot which are each 500 xp, leaving another 1050 for probably a stat upgrade or two.

[Mazer Rackham]

Nice.

 

Will we see this tie into your chapter history at all BC?  Some revelation down the line?

 

I'm petitioning our GM with mine, the poor soul.

 

You know, an extra 50xp isn't too bad.  It's like pennies.  Save enough and you can buy a lollipop. 

[Black Cohort]

Nice.

 

Will we see this tie into your chapter history at all BC?  Some revelation down the line?

 

I'm petitioning our GM with mine, the poor soul.

 

You know, an extra 50xp isn't too bad.  It's like pennies.  Save enough and you can buy a lollipop. 

 

I have started to work on another flashback for Decimus, that will likely add another hint or two at his original chapter.  Lysimachus already knows what chapter he is from. 

 

edit: there are clues in the existing flashback that someone could probably make an educated guess on his chapter from.

Edited January 4, 2022 by Black Cohort

[Machine God]

Draak has spent his XP thus:

 

FEL +5

BS +5

Command

Deadeye Shot

Mighty Shot

[Necronaut]

To any veteran apothecaries who may or may not be lurking in this thread: is there actually any practical utility to boosting my medicae skill bonus into the stratosphere outside of extended care? If I was to purchase another +10 medicae advance for Vesalius, his target number for a +0 test would be 102. I'm honestly considering upgrading to the next level of signature wargear to replace his diagnostor helm or possibly petition our intrepid GM for an elite advance of some sort. Edited January 4, 2022 by Necronaut

[Black Cohort]

I could see the value in case you had to make a particularly difficult medicae check for some reason, but that seems like it wouldn't come up that often.

[Necronaut]

Right, like if I had to perform brain surgery inside of an active volcano, but barring rare circumstances that can impose a -60 difficulty test, I'm a little unsure as to the worth of improving his medicae skill any further.