Marshal Reinhard Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Those are carbines yes The primaris neophytes hold classic bolters and bolt pistols, not the bolt carbine in codex cover art. A bit disappointment on aesthetics. No? Look closely on the bolt pistols, they're similar to reiver pistols. Understand the bolter carbine confusion, but it's probably the same kind of carbine Haldor Icepelt's model has. Edit: Or the Marksmen/occulus carbines the phobos units use, just without scopeyscopes. Or Master Lazarus from the dark angels. They're carbines at any rate, they only lack the tactical grip in the front. The tell tale signs its a carbine is that the ejection port is actually level with the barrel (my biggest pet peeve with the classic boltgun design) and the more angular casing (as oppossed to the boltguns completely square one) As for the bolt pistol design I'd say its a standard bolt pistol, and not the reiver variant (special issue?). There's actually two sepperate Primaris designs of the standard bolt pistol the smaller type: And the larger chunkier type: This is clearly what the neophytes have. The Special issue bolt pistol reivers use has an even bigger frontal part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Noice, lunchbox, and boy have we been starved. Indeed, om nom Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Reiver pistol has much longer barrel and a fore-grip. No, the carbine has the foregrip, not the pistol.The other explanation would be that its simply a model from the Sword Brethren kit put as a leader for the Crusader squad in the picture.This would be my take, considering the other models in the picture are from this army set. Up you have the feet of the Marshal. The full-body pic is one of the Initiates, and next to him is one of the Neophytes. sorry, my mistake, I mean it has a longer "handguard". I don't know small arms in real life well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 think about it twice we are now the first and only chapter with own Primaris units. All others have a special character but we have a own unit which is not just an upgrade kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Reiver pistol has much longer barrel and a fore-handguard.Sure, but it's certainly not a classic bolt pistol. think about it twice we are now the first and only chapter with own Primaris units. All others have a special character but we have a own unit which is not just an upgrade kit. Yeah I am insanely jealous. *Sad wolf howl* Edited September 19, 2021 by Wispy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Posted on Reddit from the video...looks like a little tease of a different Sword Brother considering it doesn't seem to match the sword wielding model. I've even trying to work out if he's just an alternative build for one of the other bodies, but he doesn't seem to match any of the poses of the others. Whereas the sword brother is the alternative build of the guy with the candles. So he must come from somewhere else... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Well, it's either from the Sword Brother set as discussed, or barring that from the supposed Pyreblaster squad that the article seems to be hinting at. Not really much else it could be coming from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I absolutely love the Marshal and the Sword Brother, Emp Champ's plainness has grown on me and Neophytes being so close to old art is excellent.Two gripes though - one, Sword Brother still part of the squad. I hope there's a full kit and we can take them as a separate squad, as we should. And two, the Redemptor is not Templarized at all, no apparent upgrade sprue, just decals. It's a plain old Redemptor dread. Shame. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 think about it twice we are now the first and only chapter with own Primaris units. All others have a special character but we have a own unit which is not just an upgrade kit. Victrix guards give you a thumb up. BLACK BLΠFLY and CastellanDeMolay 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 think about it twice we are now the first and only chapter with own Primaris units. All others have a special character but we have a own unit which is not just an upgrade kit. Victrix guards give you a thumb up. Not a unit, glorified additional wounds for Calgar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Well im ecstatic. Just give me the pre order date. Blindhamster, Brother Carpenter and templargdt 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Victrix guards give you a thumb up. Reminds me I still have mine to convert... Since capes for sword brethren seems to be a thing, its a most fitting outcome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptshadow Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) think about it twice we are now the first and only chapter with own Primaris units. All others have a special character but we have a own unit which is not just an upgrade kit. Victrix guards give you a thumb up.Not a unit, glorified additional wounds for Calgar.Its a unit dont need calgar and bodyguard any character, ;) and reinhard u heretic leave those victrix alone Edited September 19, 2021 by Cryptshadow BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 think about it twice we are now the first and only chapter with own Primaris units. All others have a special character but we have a own unit which is not just an upgrade kit. Victrix guards give you a thumb up.Not a unit, glorified additional wounds for Calgar.They don't need to accompany Calgar. And they have rules much more competitive than Calgar. And they are more popular than Calgar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerman Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 HERE IT IS [snip] This fills me with so much joy I'm #1 on my LGS's list and that 3rd Ed codex art is the best. I still have my 3rd ed rule book with that cover. Jump in Brothers, it's time to Crusade! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) I only have one thing to say this morning on this thread... Edited September 19, 2021 by Eberious Imperial Enforcer and TheOneTrueZon 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 https://ibb.co/cvzL6rK Sword brethren is on 40mm base. Could I dream 3 wounds? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 +Long have I slumbered amidst Promethium dreams+ +As catecisms of awakening fill the Noosphere I rejoice in the sight of my battle-brothers+ +To once again carve a bloody and blessed path of obliteration through the darkness of the void+ +Our pyres of purification will light the way+ +++In Hoc Signo Vinces+++ Dosjetka, templargdt and Eberious 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 https://ibb.co/cvzL6rK Sword brethren is on 40mm base. Could I dream 3 wounds? Do we have any veteran units mounted on 40 mm bases that aren't 3 wounds? What are the current wound count of the victrix guard? Only other units I can think of are either gravis or the bladeguard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 https://ibb.co/cvzL6rK Sword brethren is on 40mm base. Could I dream 3 wounds? Do we have any veteran units mounted on 40 mm bases that aren't 3 wounds? What are the current wound count of the victrix guard? Only other units I can think of are either gravis or the bladeguardEliminators. They have bs2+, which show that they are more "veteran" than normal phobos units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) https://ibb.co/cvzL6rK Sword brethren is on 40mm base. Could I dream 3 wounds? Do we have any veteran units mounted on 40 mm bases that aren't 3 wounds? What are the current wound count of the victrix guard? Only other units I can think of are either gravis or the bladeguardEliminators. They have bs2+, which show that they are more "veteran" than normal phobos units. Eh. could just mean they're very shooty focused, have good marksman gear. Veteran is a very explicit status among Astartes. You're veteran if you're part of the first company of a codex chapter, you have the right to wear terminator armor. Crunchwise it means, an extra attack, sometimes an extra wound (multiwound non characters is a rather recent innovation still). Eliminators don't have the extra attack, are not called veterans, don't have veteran iconography. Hence not veterans. Explicitly, the only Veteran Primaris units are afaik Victrix guard,Veteran Intercessors, and blade guard. These are the only units the are explicitly stated to be veterans. Of these, Blade guard and Victrix are mounted on 40 mm bases and have 3 wounds and of course the extra attack. Veteran intercessors don't have their own kit, so you presuambly use the standard kits and put them on their 32 mm bases. They're 2 wounds, but do have the extra attack. So correlating base size to wound count could very well mean sword brethren unit will be 3 wounds. We'll see. Edited September 19, 2021 by Reinhard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 40mm elite bring a side-effect: £30-35 per box, and only 3 models in the box. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 "new Marshal comes with a couple of options, including two choices of head and a selection of weapons" Thats something I missed yesterday and its great! This guy comes with options! Thaats a first for Primaris characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 "new Marshal comes with a couple of options, including two choices of head and a selection of weapons" Thats something I missed yesterday and its great! This guy comes with options! Thaats a first for Primaris characters. Since in 9th every "primaris xxx officer in yyy armor with zzz weapon" is an individual datasheet in codex, Marshal would be the "6th" BT unique datasheet in new codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Depending on what the other weapon options are, they might already be covered by "Primaris Captain". The captain is about to get access to the plasma pistol power sword combo through magazine guy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/59/#findComment-5743259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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