Sword Brethren Durion Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Wait in how many time is pre order for Europe ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjulhu Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I'm pretty pleased with what was revealed today. The forced charge aspect is a little fiddly, but the way these vows are split makes me think we might get a strat, relic, or WT trait that lets us ignore the passion side for a unit, so you can play around in that space a little. It's prime design space for a 1 CP strat to ignore the down sides for a phase or turn. Other than that, it's exciting to see Knights of Sigismund without the charge restriction, especially in a world of Necron and Ork T5. Between that, the mortal wounds output, and the restructuring of Divine Push, it feels like they're shoring up some of our 8th weaknesses while making us play less cheesy and more solidly. We needed reliable mortal wounds output, now we have some. We have targeted rerolls that let us operate away from characters. And it looks like some of the fat in our Litanies list was trimmed out for actual usable things. I'm already seeing some gold here. The highest points might have been trimmed down a bit, but it looks like our lowest are coming way up. So they might include rules in the codex to mitigate crippling mechanics and removals introduced in the new codex. Cool, I hope that is the actual case and that there is some gold to play with rather than the questionable new stuff that has been presented so far. Even a we know you play the current playstyle is X but our goal is Y style of statement would be nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 redmapa, templargdt and Sete 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 It doesnt mention if the invulnerable lasts for a turn like the Abhor the Witch movement buff, unless it gets amended fast that really does mean all kinds of Dreadnoughts will get a 5++ for the whole game. This and Accept Any Challenge are the best Vows, this is just pure gold. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Uphold is definitely strong. Arguably too strong. Then again I am just a bit less excited about rules like this that just slap durability buffs onto everything. One or two grinder armies in the game is fine, every army getting to be a grinder army is a slog. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 The moment have come brothers, tomorrow will be the dawn of pre orders and reviews of the box. We are moments away from the rules being released into the wild. I am going to miss this thread as it had been a fun ride and hope that it will birth many crusades in the Emperor's name. Here's to the teasers and rumours being fulfilled and to the future rumours of the next primaris wave that will eventually come to us. Here's to trying to order while at work via my phone. Fingers crossed I don't end up on the "made to order" list. ditto Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 This is a serious game changer, in my uneducated opinion. Marines have a solid core to work from, BT get some amazing Litanies, and then put this on top? Yeah, that seems nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 So much for large crusader squads being bad :D hahahahahah lol lol Kastor Krieg 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Got my box! First time playing a loyalist faction. Ever. Strange times... At least I won't be the only "Marshal (x)" person on the internet to not play Black Templars anymore. :P Dosjetka, Imperial Enforcer, RedFox and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brethren Durion Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 That's my first time pre ordering stuff on games workshop and I still see nothing. Can someone tell me if it's region lock ? And the release is later for western europe ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 That's my first time pre ordering stuff on games workshop and I still see nothing. Can someone tell me if it's region lock ? And the release is later for western europe ? Yes, usually around 10am local time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brethren Durion Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 That's my first time pre ordering stuff on games workshop and I still see nothing. Can someone tell me if it's region lock ? And the release is later for western europe ? Yes, usually around 10am local time. Okay ! Thanks ! I was starting to be a bit afraid that I miss it xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waaagh? Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 20 man Primaris Crusader squad with a 5++, Transhuman, 5+FNP from litany and Chief Apothecary kicking about........lets get crusading! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 20 man Primaris Crusader squad with a 5++, Transhuman, 5+FNP from litany and Chief Apothecary kicking about........lets get crusading! and one model which can ignore ap -1 and -2 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptshadow Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 seems every store here in the u.s has at least 10 copies, its gonna be a very available box set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freypal Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I think they've made a lot of copies. My local store got their full requested allocation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Ordering directly from gw because i got a voucher to use, i want that bonus sergeant, and my 'local' store isn't very local at all. zarkkarn and Marshal Mattias 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd-ad Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I really like the vows, at least from a fluff perspective. Each really makes sense for the Black Templars, and so do the passions. Accept any Challenge: We're a chapter of knights and swordsmen, closing with the enemy to kill them in close combat is basically our m.o. Plus, by keeping our extra attack throughout the combat it emphasises our sustained aggression. And as for the passion, if we fall back then we clearly haven't "accepted any challenge" since we'd be backing down. Abhor the Witch: we hate them and want to kill them, getting closer at the start of the battle and making sure we hit in combat makes sense. And why would we focus on an action like collecting information or raising a flag when we have a filthy witch nearby that needs killing? Suffer Not: we hate xenos and lots of them are incredibly tough, we want to make sure our blows count. And if we don't suffer them to live, it's also unsurprising if our zeal makes us attack the nearest foe in sight. Uphold the Honour: Divine protection granted by the grace of Him on Earth, links nicely with our mortal wounds defence and since the Emperor is protecting us, why would we use cover? Now they aren't necessarily all super competitive, but as far as fluffy rules go, I think they're pretty great. Marshal Mattias 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Alberic Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Ordered mine from my local indy spot on 10am and going by what others have said he should have enough allocation by the sound of it. I mean if US stores are fine I doubt UK ones will have issues. Well as long as GW has enough HGV drivers anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Random que is bull:cuss. Edited October 9, 2021 by Sete zarkkarn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Box ordered while at work on my phone, can i yell wether im the chosen pre order group or a made to order second class citizen? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Box ordered while at work on my phone, can i yell wether im the chosen pre order group or a made to order second class citizen? How do you know? My pre order got :cussed up on the pc cause i still havent received the text message to confirm my card. 20 minutes ago lmao Edited October 9, 2021 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 They said in the WarCom article that you would know, though how it didn't say. My confirmation e-mail says ships within 6 working days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Carpenter Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Mine also does and I checked, my credit card is already billed So I'm guessing next week I'll be up to my arms in black primer Edited October 9, 2021 by Brother Carpenter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd-ad Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Sorry to hear that Sete. Reinhard, I had a look at the GW article for the pre-order promise and it says this "When you place your pre-order, it will be clear whether you’re buying existing stock or the Made to Order version, so you’ll know what to expect." So I think it will say pre order for an existing box and something else for made to order? Maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/89/#findComment-5751490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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