Palmu Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Really really hard to please the BT crowd here, yeesh Nah, there's always a bunch of naysayers and fairweather players hanging about. It's also an annoying human habit that people who are happy post much less than those that are unhappy. I'll wager that the vast majority is just glad to go back to having their own book, rules be damned. And some just want to play the next big power army. Khornestar, zarkkarn, Sete and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Well get ready to pay up buddy because they do have Smokescreen! Really? I've had it confirmed elsewhere that they do NOT have smokescreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Its almost as if there was something behind Laeroths "we will have to rethink" whenever rules discussions started rdvolving around DPHere is what I'm "rethinking".Buy BT models. Paint them black. Call them "counts as Blood Angels" :-D That's asking for a Crusade.At the very least it's a paddlin'.Aye, but we'd need a Chaplain to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waaagh? Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Well get ready to pay up buddy because they do have Smokescreen! Really? I've had it confirmed elsewhere that they do NOT have smokescreen. Well get ready to pay up buddy because they do have Smokescreen! Really? I've had it confirmed elsewhere that they do NOT have smokescreen. Primaris ones don't but the normal ones do. Though the normal ones only have one wound neophytes and can't have transhuman unlike the primaris ones. Trust me when I say there are several viable ways to make large Primaris (or otherwise) crusade squads quite survivable. Edited October 8, 2021 by Waaagh? Trignama 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Hey, 9x19. Can you please tone down the aggressive and vulgar negative hyberbole? It's pretty obnoxious to read, I don't come here for more of the "everything is :cuss" message. I'm not being aggressive. I am being hyperbolic. Since you asked nice, sure. The thing is, *I* really don't care if BT are subpar. I just don't like when people are not realists about the data/info they've been given. Today's spoiled vow *is not* good. It may be that the new codex has a special rule that says "If you chose this Vow, at the end of deployment, all your models have been deployed, you win the game!" But it probably doesn't. We can play the "there might be other stuff" game all day. Any and all of it is conjecture until we see the whole codex, yes. But that is presently what we have to talk about it. Edited October 8, 2021 by 9x19 Parabellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Via Valrak: Edited October 8, 2021 by Fulkes Kastor Krieg 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Templar Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Really really hard to please the BT crowd here, yeesh I think the general consensus is that the models are amazing. Like almost too good to believe until the sprues are in your hand. The rules are confusing right now because most of the parts that are being teased are weak in isolation and not very cohesive. As has been said by those who have seen the book, all will become clear once we have access to the full rule set. painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Really really hard to please the BT crowd here, yeesh I think the general consensus is that the models are amazing. Like almost too good to believe until the sprues are in your hand. The rules are confusing right now because most of the parts that are being teased are weak in isolation and not very cohesive. As has been said by those who have seen the book, all will become clear once we have access to the full rule set. Agreed. To help mitigate my seeming negativity, let me say the models are AMAZING. (minus thicc boi). And I want the rules to reflect the amazing models, so that they are worth taking over the currently meta models (like, having a reason to take Crusader squad over Intercessors....having a reason to take SB over BGV). etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Templar Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Says the Templar who pioneered 5 Templar Crusader squads... Hahaha, I’m not sure what this means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waaagh? Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Really really hard to please the BT crowd here, yeesh I think the general consensus is that the models are amazing. Like almost too good to believe until the sprues are in your hand. The rules are confusing right now because most of the parts that are being teased are weak in isolation and not very cohesive. As has been said by those who have seen the book, all will become clear once we have access to the full rule set. I concur, it doesn't disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Says the Templar who pioneered 5 Templar Crusader squads... Hahaha, I’m not sure what this means? Sorry, on mobile and mistook who I was replying to. Laeroth pioneered MSU Crusader squads a couple editions ago. Edited October 8, 2021 by Fulkes JAG Templar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Templar Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Says the Templar who pioneered 5 Templar Crusader squads...Hahaha, I’m not sure what this means?Sorry, on mobile and mistook who I was replying to. Laeroth pioneered MSU Crusader squads a couple editions ago. Got it. Yeah, I remember them being great in a Razorback with special AND a heavy weapon from 7th Ed into beginning of 8th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingSoll Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 The moment have come brothers, tomorrow will be the dawn of pre orders and reviews of the box. We are moments away from the rules being released into the wild. I am going to miss this thread as it had been a fun ride and hope that it will birth many crusades in the Emperor's name. Here's to the teasers and rumours being fulfilled and to the future rumours of the next primaris wave that will eventually come to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) You guys be sure to sleep till late, I'll take care of them boxes for ya Edited October 8, 2021 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Templar Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 You guys be sure to sleep till late, I'll take care of them boxes for ya It’s Saturday morning where I am. Pre orders in 40mins Sete, General Strike and Marshal Loss 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I think SNtUtL could be very interesting with an impulsor rush. If you use the impulsors to tag units first, the tagged units don’t count. The (presumably) small sized units benefit from skipping a roll if the vow proc’s and we see from Fires of Devotion (shock assault prayer that stacks with shock assault and AAC) that there’s ways to really buff the units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Via Valrak: Is it wrong to be disappointed that there is no Auto-Auto combi option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Well the preorders are up in New Zealand if anyone wants to look at the sprues. Everything looks so good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingSoll Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Via Valrak: Is it wrong to be disappointed that there is no Auto-Auto combi option? Good old twin auto bolt Rifle, assault 6 shots sounds mental to have. Marshal Jenkins 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Strange. I might end up skipping the lunch box afterall. Am tempted to just skip the FOMO price markup on launch, wait and buy the combat patrol box instread. More plastic in the later box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Jenkins Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Kind of odd the auto-plasma costs you your bolt pistol while the combi-flamer doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 The moment have come brothers, tomorrow will be the dawn of pre orders and reviews of the box. We are moments away from the rules being released into the wild. I am going to miss this thread as it had been a fun ride and hope that it will birth many crusades in the Emperor's name. Here's to the teasers and rumours being fulfilled and to the future rumours of the next primaris wave that will eventually come to us. Here's to trying to order while at work via my phone. Fingers crossed I don't end up on the "made to order" list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Its almost as if there was something behind Laeroths "we will have to rethink" whenever rules discussions started rdvolving around DP Here is what I'm "rethinking". Buy BT models. Paint them black. Call them "counts as Blood Angels" :-D BA are really bad. One of the weakest chapters I think. Blindhamster 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Templar Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 The moment have come brothers, tomorrow will be the dawn of pre orders and reviews of the box. We are moments away from the rules being released into the wild. I am going to miss this thread as it had been a fun ride and hope that it will birth many crusades in the Emperor's name. Here's to the teasers and rumours being fulfilled and to the future rumours of the next primaris wave that will eventually come to us. Here's to trying to order while at work via my phone. Fingers crossed I don't end up on the "made to order" list. Mine says ‘pre-order’ does that mean I made the cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 While being so unhappy with the vows - the 2 litanies we have already seen are absolutely great. I hope there is a way for us to recite litanies a bit easier - like on a 2+ or with reroll. Ancient breviary treatment. If the rumor about 5++ is true then we can field a lot of troops which would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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