BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Is all about the special rules, that’s what makes em tasty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvis Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Question; how much of the current BT upgrade sprue would be compatible with primaris? I’m thinking of getting it to spruce up intercessors, but I’m not sure if the cross over is too wide Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Question; how much of the current BT upgrade sprue would be compatible with primaris? I templargdt and Sarvis 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Question; how much of the current BT upgrade sprue would be compatible with primaris? I’m thinking of getting it to spruce up intercessors, but I’m not sure if the cross over is too wide Everything but the chest pieces, I've used the arms for some Intercessors and while the bolt pistols are a bit smaller the arms themselves fit perfectly fine and the chainsword is the same size as the Assault Intercessor one (maybe a bit thinner) so really everything works. Sarvis and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Laeroth Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Ya'll going to want to take the Sword Brethren. I promise. templargdt, BLACK BLΠFLY, Schlitzaf and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Beastsnagga box and possible equivalents: Zogrod - Grimaldus or Helbrecht Nob on Smasha Squig - Emperor's Champion Boyz - Crusader Squad Squighog Boyz - Sword Brethren Then the other new special character is released separately (like Mozrog & the Great White Squig). I'd guess Grimaldus separate if he still has a cenobite-servitor retinue. Trignama 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) Ya'll going to want to take the Sword Brethren. I promise. Can you tell us if it's a new unit type or an upgrade to existing veteran type models? Given that terminators, van/stern veterans, and presumably BGV can all be/have sword brethren, it strikes me as odd if it's a new model/unit type rather than an upgrade to anything which already qualifies as a veteran. Edited August 11, 2021 by 9x19 Parabellum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvis Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Thanks for the responses! Might pick it up soon since there’s a good chance we’ll lose it once the update comes. Urkh 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 What if they have jump packs? Or special rules? Or fit in an LRC? Or look amazing? We already have units that literally fill all of these criteria and do the job well, the question is what will the Sword Brethren bring that make them stand out? Regardless of whether or not they are useful in game I am going to get them, I just hope I'm going to actually want to use them. Absolutely nothing is my guess; the Wolf Guard of the Black Templars as it were. Yeah agree. the correlation between Wolfguard, Sword Brethren and CSM chosen is almost a perfect circle. I would expect character elite(s) + stratagems to juice up SB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayOkuz Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 GW has literally consulted the man on things templar. put two and two together. He must be NDA'd up the wazoo, so don't bother him about it. We're not getting a bloody WD article though, alright? Ahahah.. Wait for Friday Folks... Just wait. THE EMPEROR DELIVERS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 There was so much emphasis in the old sword Brethren lore about them being the only ones trained in the use of terminator armour, it would be absolutely sick if the designers had taken that forwards and redone terminators. But that may be just me, I never really liked the sword Brethren models from 4th ed. Shoulder cloaks aside. templargdt and Sarvis 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritn Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Beastsnagga box and possible equivalents: Zogrod - Grimaldus or Helbrecht Nob on Smasha Squig - Emperor's Champion Boyz - Crusader Squad Squighog Boyz - Sword Brethren Then the other new special character is released separately (like Mozrog & the Great White Squig). I'd guess Grimaldus separate if he still has a cenobite-servitor retinue. I'd guess it will be more like Zogrod - Rumoured Marshall Nob on Smasha Squig - Rumoured Ancient Boyz - Crusader Squad Squighog Boyz - Sword Brethren And the three special characters sold separately (or in big character box). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashc Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) Ya'll going to want to take the Sword Brethren. I promise. GW has literally consulted the man on things templar. put two and two together. He must be NDA'd up the wazoo, so don't bother him about it. We're not getting a bloody WD article though, alright? Ahahah.. Wait for Friday Folks... Just wait. THE EMPEROR DELIVERS Well colour me excited. Edited August 11, 2021 by ashc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) GW has literally consulted the man on things templar. put two and two together. He must be NDA'd up the wazoo, so don't bother him about it. We're not getting a bloody WD article though, alright? Ahahah.. Wait for Friday Folks... Just wait. THE EMPEROR DELIVERS Is there anything scheduled to be revealed on Friday? Beastsnagga box and possible equivalents: Zogrod - Grimaldus or Helbrecht Nob on Smasha Squig - Emperor's Champion Boyz - Crusader Squad Squighog Boyz - Sword Brethren Then the other new special character is released separately (like Mozrog & the Great White Squig). I'd guess Grimaldus separate if he still has a cenobite-servitor retinue. I'd guess it will be more like Zogrod - Rumoured Marshall Nob on Smasha Squig - Rumoured Ancient Boyz - Crusader Squad Squighog Boyz - Sword Brethren And the three special characters sold separately (or in big character box). Thanks for these predictions regarding the possible contents of our box. EDIT: Typo. Edited August 11, 2021 by Brother Cristopher Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidenheart Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Ya'll going to want to take the Sword Brethren. I promise. What about new crusaders? Do we gonna want to take them too? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayOkuz Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) GW has literally consulted the man on things templar. put two and two together. He must be NDA'd up the wazoo, so don't bother him about it. We're not getting a bloody WD article though, alright? Ahahah.. Wait for Friday Folks... Just wait. THE EMPEROR DELIVERS Is there anything scheduled to be reveal on Friday? Brother, "Trust in the Emperor at the hour of battle. Trust to him to intercede, and protect his warriors true as they deal death on alien soil. Turn their seas to red with the blood of their slain. Crush their hopes, their dreams And turn their songs into cries of lamentation." Edited August 11, 2021 by BayOkuz templargdt 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Were there actual rumors beyond ‘Wait and See’ and Characters + Sword Brethren? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjulhu Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 GW has literally consulted the man on things templar. put two and two together. He must be NDA'd up the wazoo, so don't bother him about it. We're not getting a bloody WD article though, alright? Ahahah.. Wait for Friday Folks... Just wait. THE EMPEROR DELIVERS But does he do chicken, beef and pork? Marshal Rohr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 On the subject of Sword Brethren, imo this unit should be clad in Gravis armour. I'm sure I've already mentioned it, but it would be a good way to separate it from Bladeguard vets. A unit of 5 Gravis Marines armed with MC Swords, and a nice ranged weapon of some kind - perhaps a MC Bolt Rifle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Napalm Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) On the subject of Sword Brethren, imo this unit should be clad in Gravis armour. I'm sure I've already mentioned it, but it would be a good way to separate it from Bladeguard vets. A unit of 5 Gravis Marines armed with MC Swords, and a nice ranged weapon of some kind - perhaps a MC Bolt Rifle. I think that sounds a tad vanilla for Sword Brethren. Regarding my preference, if they aren't Mk. X. Tacticus then they should be wearing Terminator armor, and the latter is unlikely. With the new Sword Brethren kit, I'd like them to move away from the Primaris monobuild stuff. The Templars are very ad-hoc in their organization, and I think the equipment of their veterans should reflect that. What you describe feels more appropriate for Gravis vets available to any chapter. Edited August 11, 2021 by Mmmmm Napalm Medjugorje and zarkkarn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 They will be a Primaris unit, that's the only thing we can be sure of. It future-proofs them this way too. You're right, they will probably be wearing a bespoke Tacticus suit, but the idea of Gravis troops with long swords is great to imagine, personally. Trignama 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I think it would be perfectly reasonable for them to keep the firstborn EC as a unit. After all the EC is decided on the eve of battle by the will of the Emperor. There is no guarantee just because there are primaris brothers now that they will always be chosen. I would really like to see both as options, obviously mutually exclusive though, no taking 1 of each. BayOkuz, Brother Christopher and Kheotour 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I think it would be perfectly reasonable for them to keep the firstborn EC as a unit. After all the EC is decided on the eve of battle by the will of the Emperor. There is no guarantee just because there are primaris brothers now that they will always be chosen. I would really like to see both as options, obviously mutually exclusive though, no taking 1 of each. Your argument is reasonable from the lore perspective. Now, I'm pondering whether fluff reasons will prevail over marketing reasons ;) I sure hope that an old EC remains a viable option in the Codex, but the sceptic in me struggles to believe that will be the case. As someone pointed out earlier, I'm afraid that the old model will find itself in the rule limbo being "Legends". Jayrich131 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 As long as the transport and strat interactions were sorted, one stat profile should be good enough regardless of genetics. He's almost the Avatar of Sigismund at this point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 The rules for the new one will be so much better you'll never look back. Likely they will straight up replace the old ones, as has happened before with models like Tiggy that got a Primaris upgrade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/21/#findComment-5728975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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