Black Templar Teaser and Rumors

[Guest]

I want to start BT but I can't say painting that much black frills me... :)

 

Any suggestions?

[Tokugawa]

Spray base color grey, then use "contrast Black Templars".

[Gederas]

I want to start BT but I can't say painting that much black frills me...

 

Any suggestions?

Use purple as a basis.

 

Yes, really:

 

I'm using that method for my Templars and it looks REALLY nice, gives the armour a subtle obsidian sheen.

 

[Acebaur]

 

"new Marshal comes with a couple of options, including two choices of head and a selection of weapons"

 

Thats something I missed yesterday and its great! This guy comes with options! Thaats a first for Primaris characters.

Since in 9th every "primaris xxx officer in yyy armor with zzz weapon" is an individual datasheet in codex, Marshal would be the "6th" BT unique datasheet in new codex.

Well it says "special characters and 6 unique datasheets"

So assuming the characters aren't in there, that's 2x crusader squads, sword bros, Marshal? Then 2 unknown

[Marshal Reinhard]

For sure one has to be the ancient

[Gederas]

"new Marshal comes with a couple of options, including two choices of head and a selection of weapons"

 

Thats something I missed yesterday and its great! This guy comes with options! Thaats a first for Primaris characters.

Since in 9th every "primaris xxx officer in yyy armor with zzz weapon" is an individual datasheet in codex, Marshal would be the "6th" BT unique datasheet in new codex.

Well it says "special characters and 6 unique datasheets"

So assuming the characters aren't in there, that's 2x crusader squads, sword bros, Marshal? Then 2 unknown

“This isn’t the last of the Black Templars, either. Remember a certain pyreblaster-toting Space Marine? Well, he’s got friends, and they’ll be joining the crusade towards the end of the year.“

 

Pyreblaster Squad and Ancient.

 

Unless.... The Special BT Ancient is one of the "Special Characters"?

 

And before anyone says the Pyreblaster reference was referring to the Crusader squad, explain to me why that'd be nowhere near the Primaris Crusader squad, but aaaaaaaaaaaall the way down at the bottom of the article?

 

Edited September 19, 2021 by Gederas

[Marshal Reinhard]

The wording of the article is very strangely worded. It specifically calls out the Pyreblaster marine. Even though we've already seen that exact marine in the squad showcased in the box. It didn't call back to the Emperor's champion, who was also revealed ahead of the box reveal. It specifically singles out the pyreblaster marine as getting friends.

 

It's very specific wording.

 

There's been zero rumors to the effect that pyreblaser squad is coming, any reference to the pyreblaser in the rumors was always "crusaders get a special flamer". 

 

I honestly don't know what to take it as. But pyreblaser rolls off the tongue easily and goes well with hellblasters as a squad name.  

[Medjugorje]

The article also mentions 6 unique datasheets…

 

Grimaldus

Halbrecht

EC

Swordbrothers

 

….

Marshall + castellan? I guess?

 

Edit: didn’t see previous posts. Unique characters + 6 is cool. Swordbrothers/crusaders… ?? Exciting

Grimaldus

Emperors Champion

Sword Brothers

Helbrecht

 

Crusader squad

Priamris Crusader Squad

 

I think the Ancient then is not a unique character with own name and the cenobites will be included for Grimaldus

[Gederas]

The wording of the article is very strangely worded. It specifically calls out the Pyreblaster marine. Even though we've already seen that exact marine in the squad showcased in the box. It didn't call back to the Emperor's champion, who was also revealed ahead of the box reveal. It specifically singles out the pyreblaster marine as getting friends.

 

It's very specific wording.

 

There's been zero rumors to the effect that pyreblaser squad is coming, any reference to the pyreblaser in the rumors was always "crusaders get a special flamer". 

 

I honestly don't know what to take it as. But pyreblaser rolls off the tongue easily and goes well with hellblasters as a squad name.  

That's what I was thinking.

 

If the Ancient isn't a generic datasheet, but a "special Character" like the Emperor's champion, we could look at the "characters and 6 datasheets" comment as this:

1. Firstborn Crusader Squad
2. Primaris Crusader Squad
3. Primaris Sword Brethren
4. Pyreblaster Squad (?)
5. Marshal
6. ????
7. Helbrecht
8. Grimaldus
9. Emperor's Champion
10. Special Ancient

.... Wait. We're forgetting something about our datasheets. Grimaldus has his Servitors.

 

Could the 6th datasheet be the Cenobite Servitors?

 

 

Edit:

 

 

The article also mentions 6 unique datasheets…

 

Grimaldus

Halbrecht

EC

Swordbrothers

 

….

Marshall + castellan? I guess?

 

Edit: didn’t see previous posts. Unique characters + 6 is cool. Swordbrothers/crusaders… ?? Exciting

Grimaldus

Emperors Champion

Sword Brothers

Helbrecht

 

Crusader squad

Priamris Crusader Squad

 

I think the Ancient then is not a unique character with own name and the cenobites will be included for Grimaldus

The problem is if the characters are included in the "6 Datasheets", Warhammer Community's writers REALLY NEED to take a remedial class on reading comprehension. Because this:

 

"You better believe that it’s also bursting with rules, including bespoke Detachment Abilities, Stratagems, Warlord Traits, Litanies of the Devout, Relics, Crusade rules, special Characters, and six unique unit Datasheets."

 

Calls out the special Characters AND THEN the "six unique datasheets". Which means they're separate, as written.

Edited September 19, 2021 by Gederas

[Marshal Reinhard]

Helbrecht is also having cenobyte servitors. We've already seen a potato cam of the one cleaning his sword

 

I think those are included on their respective datasheets. But it could be they're not.

 

I also think the "ancient" will be one of the six, not a new special character.

[jaxom]

I really don’t think the non-special HQs are getting their own data sheets. We’ve already seen chapter-specific options included in the core codex. An FAQ to that (including the Imperium Hachette options) would be more likely.

[Sword Brother Adelard]

We don't need a datasheet for the Ancient, unless it has specific rules, but that could just be a relic banner.

 

Ironically, if he's released alone, that would make him the first stand alone Primaris ancient kit.

[Marshal Reinhard]

We don't need a datasheet for the Ancient, unless it has specific rules, but that could just be a relic banner.

 

Ironically, if he's released alone, that would make him the first stand alone Primaris ancient kit.

We don't need one for the marshal either, technically.

 

I'm just going with what I expect

[Sword Brother Adelard]

It's hard to tell with GW sometimes, just when they get into a certain pattern, they surprise you.

 

I'd have said the same about the Marshal until i saw his loadout is already game legal on the App.

[Marshal Reinhard]

Due to hatchette, not so much the BT marshal, I expect. 

 

We'll see

[Medjugorje]

Helbrecht is also having cenobyte servitors. We've already seen a potato cam of the one cleaning his sword

 

I think those are included on their respective datasheets. But it could be they're not.

 

I also think the "ancient" will be one of the six, not a new special character.

but he cant be one of the sheets when he is not a special character. Because we already have Ancients in codex Space marines.

[Sword Brother Adelard]

 

 

Helbrecht is also having cenobyte servitors. We've already seen a potato cam of the one cleaning his sword

 

I think those are included on their respective datasheets. But it could be they're not.

 

I also think the "ancient" will be one of the six, not a new special character.

but he cant be one of the sheets when he is not a special character. Because we already have Ancients in codex Space marines.

That depends on whether the 6 datasheets includes the special characters, or whether they are on top. It could be read either way.

[Marshal Reinhard]

If the blade guard ancient can be his own sheet, so can a BT specific one.

[Medjugorje]

Possible yes.

 

probably no

 

But as Adelard already said. Sometimes GW will surprise you.

Edited September 19, 2021 by Medjugorje

[Sword Brother Adelard]

In other news, apparently a GW Store Facebook page accidentally posted this picture of a BT collectible coin.

The bigger news however is that it appears the debate is over and red won. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong:

But I'm still not painting them red. Edited September 19, 2021 by Brother Adelard

[redmapa]

Crusader squads with chainswords have black trim, so did it actually win? As for the coin, thats awesome, I will try to get that one in November.

[Brother Carpenter]

How about the oldmarine sb squad?

I'm missing that one in the lineup

In other news, apparently a GW Store Facebook page accidentally posted this picture of a BT collectible coin.

 

The bigger news however is that it appears the debate is over and red won. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong:

 

 

But I'm still not painting them red.

Nah that's just an assault brother who dumped his jetpack.

[Marshal Reinhard]

That's a sweet paintjob, regardless

[Sword Brother Adelard]

Yeah, I can't disagree with that. 

How about the oldmarine sb squad?
I'm missing that one in the lineup

 

I just worked out what you meant.

That unit hasn't had separate rules for a long time, it's mostly been superceded by the Company and Vanguard Veterans datasheets.

[Medjugorje]

How about the oldmarine sb squad?

I'm missing that one in the lineup

In other news, apparently a GW Store Facebook page accidentally posted this picture of a BT collectible coin.

 

The bigger news however is that it appears the debate is over and red won. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong:

 

 

But I'm still not painting them red.

Nah that's just an assault brother who dumped his jetpack.

 

hmmm now after we have a crusadersquad. Maybe the red shoulder trim is correct.