SanguinaryGuardsman Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Vengeance +1 CA Khorne +1ap melee Flame +1ap shooting Excess +1 to hit melee Despair 6s to hit autowound I wouldnt mind some combi flamer terminators with icon of flame. That could get painful with VoTLW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maschinenpriester Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Vengeance +1 CA Khorne +1ap melee Flame +1ap shooting Excess +1 to hit melee Despair 6s to hit autowound I wouldnt mind some combi flamer terminators with icon of flame. That could get painful with VoTLW. Well we don't know yet how the new strats are going to turn out. Pretty exited about the new rumprs. Hungry for more! Wondering what noise marines are going to be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3W isn't enough to make the current iteration good on its own as they'll still get mowed down like chaff without an invul but who knows what 9th ed Chosen will have in their favour. There's three ways to give a unit a 5++ in the codex right now -- one of which is a huge aura from the Crown that the CA makes much easier to place. Marshal Loss and Maschinenpriester 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 3W isn't enough to make the current iteration good on its own as they'll still get mowed down like chaff without an invul but who knows what 9th ed Chosen will have in their favour. There's three ways to give a unit a 5++ in the codex right now -- one of which is a huge aura from the Crown that the CA makes much easier to place. While it's certainly true there are ways to improve their survivability, 1) the CA fortification changes are explicitly for tournament gameplay ("...can, in a Warzone Nachmund: Grand Tournament mission..."), and 2) our other options for a 5++ on Chosen (a Tzeentch-specific psychic power & a Prayer) are in one case vulnerable to a deny/failure to cast/playing another god-marked force and in another restricted by placement. My broader point, which I didn't make very well, was that wound count isn't the sole issue holding Chosen back from being a good unit. I'd prefer a unit like Chosen be able to see play on its own merits, not have to carefully stay within distance of a terrain piece or character lest they get blown off the board. edit: spelling Edited January 21, 2022 by Marshal Loss Aeternus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Another cool thing is that chosen are 3w. So we effectively hace BGV equivalents nowCries in death guard I'll never forgive GW for taking away my chosen I miss my plasma chosen squads wish DG had a power armored elite squad that could take different ranged or close combat weapons Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naryn Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I'd never complain about extra Cabal points but I'd love to get some AP-1 Icons of Flame over in at the Planet of Sorcerers. Plaguecaster 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Something else that is very vague that I could share is the IW forgefiend can possibly hit on a 2+ with ectoplasma doing flat 4 damage, and what if i told you that none of what I mentionned above has anything to do with their legion trait. Khornestar, Doctor Perils, techsoldaten and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) I know quite a few details about the new codex, but i dont want to get my source in trouble. I will drop some more hints later on, but from what i was told, hold on to your butts. Litterally everything I was told gave me a eating grin, and the things already discussed above are just the beginning. Thanks a bunch for sharing what you've got! If someone knew whether or not Berzerkers kept the ability to fight twice... I dunno that would probably be pretty cool to know. :P Edited January 22, 2022 by Khornestar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I just need to know whether the Word Bearers tactic is still garbo, as a yes or no answer. Vesalius, Khornestar and Marshal Loss 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I just need to know whether the Word Bearers tactic is still garbo, as a yes or no answer. Not garbo at all Khornestar and WrathOfTheLion 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Perfect, something to look forward to. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Vengeance +1 CA Khorne +1ap melee Flame +1ap shooting Excess +1 to hit melee Despair 6s to hit autowound I wouldnt mind some combi flamer terminators with icon of flame. That could get painful with VoTLW. Well we don't know yet how the new strats are going to turn out. Pretty exited about the new rumprs. Hungry for more! Wondering what noise marines are going to be like. I was assuming that since TS and DG got a +1 to wound strat that CSM would also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Another leak for you fine folks, to celebrate the website being back up. Extra units chaos is getting: Hq squad of cultists Mutant cultists (clockworkchris's opinion:these will be like tzaangors and poxwalkers) These are the new units. Lord Abaia, Dhar'Neth and BadgersinHills 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I'm most curious about Chaos Predators, any changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I'm most curious about Chaos Predators, any changes? we already have that answer in the thousand sons codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 That would suggest that all shared Vehicles are the same which is very disappointing :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 That would suggest that all shared Vehicles are the same which is very disappointing :( We already know this to be true, nothing changed between the DG and TS defiler. Also the SM predator and TS predator are both the same. However the IW trait seems to work very nicely on all vehicules. Llagos_Tyrant and Dhar'Neth 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinpact Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Looks like Nurgle Night Lord morale cheese is out... Although the alternatives are almost certainly better. After seeing the T'au Sept trait generator map, I wonder if chaos will get something crazy like that or a vanilla "take two, some count as two, these two can't be taken together" deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Another leak for you fine folks, to celebrate the website being back up. Extra units chaos is getting: Hq squad of cultists Mutant cultists (clockworkchris's opinion:these will be like tzaangors and poxwalkers) These are the new units. Are these the ONLY new units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Another leak for you fine folks, to celebrate the website being back up. Extra units chaos is getting: Hq squad of cultists Mutant cultists (clockworkchris's opinion:these will be like tzaangors and poxwalkers) These are the new units. Are these the ONLY new units? These are the only new units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Another leak for you fine folks, to celebrate the website being back up. Extra units chaos is getting: Hq squad of cultists Mutant cultists (clockworkchris's opinion:these will be like tzaangors and poxwalkers) These are the new units. so in line with the already rumoured releases. Marshal Loss and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maschinenpriester Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Another leak for you fine folks, to celebrate the website being back up. Extra units chaos is getting: Hq squad of cultists Mutant cultists (clockworkchris's opinion:these will be like tzaangors and poxwalkers) These are the new units. so in line with the already rumoured releases. Were new posses in the sope of the rumors? I really thing the current box is too goofy. I just recently got me some FW Gal Vorbak because of that. Are there any rumors if marks are going to do something more them just keywords? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Another leak for you fine folks, to celebrate the website being back up. Extra units chaos is getting: Hq squad of cultists Mutant cultists (clockworkchris's opinion:these will be like tzaangors and poxwalkers) These are the new units. so in line with the already rumoured releases. Were new posses in the sope of the rumors? I really thing the current box is too goofy. I just recently got me some FW Gal Vorbak because of that. New Possessed are indeed part of the rumours (they're in the first post). Just to reiterate: Possessed Bikers Chosen Warpsmith Cultists (BSF-style) Renegade Guard (BSF-style) Human mutants Possessed humans ("the latter two are monstrously horrible. Think of the Greater Possessed but cranked up to 11") Cultist standard bearer (character) Cultist character with bodyguards See no reason to doubt any of these given the source's previous reliability, though it's possible that one or more might not be released alongside the actual codex + wave. Maschinenpriester 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Another leak for you fine folks, to celebrate the website being back up. Extra units chaos is getting: Hq squad of cultists Mutant cultists (clockworkchris's opinion:these will be like tzaangors and poxwalkers) These are the new units. so in line with the already rumoured releases.Were new posses in the sope of the rumors? I really thing the current box is too goofy. I just recently got me some FW Gal Vorbak because of that. Are there any rumors if marks are going to do something more them just keywords? No models is not the same as new units. The cultist units are the only new units. Old units are def getting new models. Maschinenpriester 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 HQ squad of Cultists, you say. So, like some sort of council of Chaos weirdos? I'd be totally down for that. Doctor Perils and Vesalius 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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