Seahawk Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Word Bearers Warp Talons are the winningest winners. 5 attacks (6s cause extra hits), reroll hits, reroll wounds (6s cause mortal wounds). Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovellovin Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) snip Thank you for sharing all this info! Some very interesting stuff in there. edit - Curious if the Night Lords' traits will stack. If so, morale could be an issue for opposing armies. That would be interesting and fit with the Night Lords' lore. Edited January 24, 2022 by Shovellovin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinespider Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Cultist HQ + more cultist options seems like the wildest part of this, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Cultist HQ + more cultist options seems like the wildest part of this, tbh. Funnily enough it's among the safest parts of this, since they were in the big rumour/leak that has been extremely accurate since the Black Templar release. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 snip Thank you for sharing all this info! Some very interesting stuff in there. edit - Curious if the Night Lords' traits will stack. If so, morale could be an issue for opposing armies. That would be interesting and fit with the Night Lords' lore. No stacking with itself but will stack with chaos spawn aura and raptors aura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Word Bearers Warp Talons are the winningest winners. 5 attacks (6s cause extra hits), reroll hits, reroll wounds (6s cause mortal wounds). Ashen circle raptors, pistols proc the mw then in melee you can proc mw again. Also assault weapons proc the mw so take flamers Please tell me possessed also get 3 wounds... I need more info if it's just cultist or actual traitor guard. Unfortunately these new traits sound like they wont effect daemon engines... Apparently the legion traits work on all units Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague _Lord Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) Edit - my questions have been answered :D Edited January 24, 2022 by Plague _Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDeath Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) As we are talking about Word Bearers here: Is there still a connection to the Daemon Codex? Daemon thingies (stratagems etc) for Word Bearers? Summoning? Edited January 24, 2022 by MasterDeath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Word Bearers Warp Talons are the winningest winners. 5 attacks (6s cause extra hits), reroll hits, reroll wounds (6s cause mortal wounds). Ashen circle raptors, pistols proc the mw then in melee you can proc mw again. Also assault weapons proc the mw so take flamers Well sure if you want to maximize mortal wounds then raptors are in a great place. I'm just saying rerolling hits and wounds with a lot of attacks, fishing for 6s with both, plus all the normal warp talon qualities, they'll be in a good place I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) I need more info if it's just cultist or actual traitor guard. Unfortunately these new traits sound like they wont effect daemon engines... Apparently the legion traits work on all units I find that kind of hard to believe, seeing as how the DG and TS coerces really took away from cultists, Tzaangors, and Poxwalkers < Edit of wonky quote tags by Dr. Ruminahui > Edited January 24, 2022 by Dr_Ruminahui Special Officer Doofy 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxeC Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) The traits seem off to me, both because there are 3 elements to them (when 9th books generally always have 2) and because they seem crazy good. Is it potentially the case that one of the elements (for example IW's +1 to wound) is tied to the 'doctrine' you are currently in, like SM work? So, for example, IW's 3rd trait is active during the 'devestator doctine'? BL's exploding 5s active during the 'tactical doctrine'? That would make much more sense to me, as that's the thing that stands out as the most unbelievable. Are there any sources of D3+3 damage? Edited January 24, 2022 by AxeC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The traits seem off to me, both because there are 3 elements to them (when 9th books generally always have 2) and because they seem crazy good. Is it potentially the case that one of the elements (for example IW's +1 to wound) is tied to the 'doctrine' you are currently in, like SM work? So, for example, IW's 3rd trait is active during the 'devestator doctine'? BL's exploding 5s active during the 'tactical doctrine'? That would make much more sense to me, as that's the thing that stands out as the most unbelievable. Are there any sources of D3+3 damage? I think what we are seeing are two traits + doctrine buff not 3 traits. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I think one of the traits is supposed to be like a superdoctrine, so limited to their preferred (assault for Word Bearers/Night Lords for example). Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague _Lord Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I think one of the traits is supposed to be like a superdoctrine, so limited to their preferred (assault for Word Bearers/Night Lords for example). Agreed, +1 to wound vechicles/units in cover the whole time in addition to the other buffs for Iron Warriors would seem extremely potent. Any info if possessed are getting a rules change along with their new (rumoured) models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxeC Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I think one of the traits is supposed to be like a superdoctrine, so limited to their preferred (assault for Word Bearers/Night Lords for example). Agreed, +1 to wound vechicles/units in cover the whole time in addition to the other buffs for Iron Warriors would seem extremely potent. Any info if possessed are getting a rules change along with their new (rumoured) models? You'd assume they would be the same as DG possessed right? Except possibly without the toughness 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague _Lord Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I think one of the traits is supposed to be like a superdoctrine, so limited to their preferred (assault for Word Bearers/Night Lords for example). Agreed, +1 to wound vechicles/units in cover the whole time in addition to the other buffs for Iron Warriors would seem extremely potent. Any info if possessed are getting a rules change along with their new (rumoured) models? You'd assume they would be the same as DG possessed right? Except possibly without the toughness 5? Well I hope not because the DG ones are bad and the regular ones wont have T5 and poison weapons... I'm hoping for 3w... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squike Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I'm kinda disappointed Havocs aren't 3W, considering Chosen are rumoured to be and Havocs are up armoured compared to any of the regular marine sculpts. Aarik 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I'm kinda disappointed Havocs aren't 3W, considering Chosen are rumoured to be and Havocs are up armoured compared to any of the regular marine sculpts. I'm kinda disappointed Havocs aren't 3W, considering Chosen are rumoured to be and Havocs are up armoured compared to any of the regular marine sculpts. I mean they are t5 2w ignore heavy multiplier, what more can you want lol. Also the 3w treatment are clearly reserved to "veteran units" like BGV. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon303 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Any movement of HQ characters to elites? So many cool characters don't get a look in due to limited HQ slots. Or some kind of combined slot usage like SM lieutenants or foetid virions? Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Word Bearers Warp Talons are the winningest winners. 5 attacks (6s cause extra hits), reroll hits, reroll wounds (6s cause mortal wounds). I foresee a lot of "I ALWAYS loved Word Bearers" soon if these are true. BadgersinHills and Iron Father Ferrum 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I always loved Word Bearers ;) Lexington, RolandTHTG, Marshal Loss and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 I always loved Word Bearers After 4.5 years of using that horrid trait, bring on the bandwagoners :P RolandTHTG, BadgersinHills, WrathOfTheLion and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I forgot we even had a trait in most of the games I played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I always loved Word Bearers ;) After 4.5 years of using that horrid trait, bring on the bandwagoners :P Indeed, seeing the true champions of chaos dominate tables everywhere sounds great to me. :P Marshal Loss and WrathOfTheLion 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Is it just me or this the BL trait+doctrine bonus really good? I'm kinda disappointed Havocs aren't 3W, considering Chosen are rumoured to be and Havocs are up armoured compared to any of the regular marine sculpts. I'm kinda disappointed Havocs aren't 3W, considering Chosen are rumoured to be and Havocs are up armoured compared to any of the regular marine sculpts. I mean they are t5 2w ignore heavy multiplier, what more can you want lol. Also the 3w treatment are clearly reserved to "veteran units" like BGV. What about cult troops? Will BL be able to field rubrics/plague marines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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