techsoldaten Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Obliterators sound amazing. Wonder if you do the random rolls for each model or the entire unit. Now do Abaddon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) We are getting "daemon gifts", these are buff you can buy for CORE or CHARACTERS. Khorne +1s to charges Tzeentch ignore damage on first failed save Slaanesh fight first in the fight phase Nurgle -1 damage Is there any rules preventing vehicles like dreads from getting it? It does say core. Contemptors would be -2 unless it prevents stacking Edited January 28, 2022 by Plaguecaster Clockworkchris 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 We are getting "daemon gifts", these are buff you can buy for CORE or CHARACTERS. Khorne +1s to charges Tzeentch ignore damage on first failed save Slaanesh fight first in the fight phase Nurgle -1 damage Is there any rules preventing vehicles like dreads from getting it? It does say core. Contemptors would be -2 unless it prevents stacking No idea yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 All sounds excellent so far. The EC trait adding an incentive to use weapons like power fists feels very inappropriate for the legion but it's certainly quite strong, and I'm not going to complain about being able to ignore dense. Obliterator profiles are rock-hard and much more appropriate than what they have now. I quite like the Red Corsairs suite as well. Being able to advance + charge while counting as two models for the purposes of obsec means you can swarm objectives with power-armoured bodies (particularly if the new bikers are good) to really take a game by the throat. Iron Father Ferrum and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 We are getting "daemon gifts", these are buff you can buy for CORE or CHARACTERS. Khorne +1s to charges Tzeentch ignore damage on first failed save Slaanesh fight first in the fight phase Nurgle -1 damage Is there any rules preventing vehicles like dreads from getting it? It does say core. Contemptors would be -2 unless it prevents stackingNo idea yet. I don't suppose you know with the legions like Word bearers and Iron Warriors, are they alloweded to take marks of nurlge? The way DG have ended up being a pain with the nerfs I am tempted to run a Nurgle Word bearers force so I can use all my old models I lost since DG can't have them (havocs, bikes etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 We are getting "daemon gifts", these are buff you can buy for CORE or CHARACTERS. Khorne +1s to charges Tzeentch ignore damage on first failed save Slaanesh fight first in the fight phase Nurgle -1 damage Is there any rules preventing vehicles like dreads from getting it? It does say core. Contemptors would be -2 unless it prevents stackingNo idea yet. I don't suppose you know with the legions like Word bearers and Iron Warriors, are they alloweded to take marks of nurlge? The way DG have ended up being a pain with the nerfs I am tempted to run a Nurgle Word bearers force so I can use all my old models I lost since DG can't have them (havocs, bikes etc) So far the only condition to being marked is having either the CORE or CHARACTER keyword Khornestar, RolandTHTG and Plaguecaster 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 It's at this time my old bitterness shows, it all sounds a bit too good to be true. Slave to Darkness, RolandTHTG, Maschinenpriester and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApulianAbaddon Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 News about the new demon engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 We are getting "daemon gifts", these are buff you can buy for CORE or CHARACTERS. Khorne +1s to charges Tzeentch ignore damage on first failed save Slaanesh fight first in the fight phase Nurgle -1 damage Does this mean a Nurgle Hellbrute could be -2 damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 We are getting "daemon gifts", these are buff you can buy for CORE or CHARACTERS. Khorne +1s to charges Tzeentch ignore damage on first failed save Slaanesh fight first in the fight phase Nurgle -1 damage Does this mean a Nurgle Hellbrute could be -2 damage? Could be but doubtful, DG didnt get to double up on that I am willing to bet there will be a condition or simply maximum of -1 damage kinda like +/-1 to hit that is capped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) I'm curious about venom crawlers Would be interesting to see if they changed from the whole summoning thing and if they got access to more weapons possibly hintimg at multi part kit later on Edited January 28, 2022 by Plaguecaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Damn... nurgle bikers with -1 dmg might actually be decent with chainswords. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Damn... nurgle bikers with -1 dmg might actually be decent with chainswords. Along with the Icon to autowound, jjst load them up with bolters swords and metals and go to town. I'm curious about venom crawlers Would be interesting to see if they changed from the whole summoning thing and if they got access to more weapons possibly hintimg at multi part kit later on They dont seem to apart from the changes i posted earlier. Summoning schtick is being replaced by +1 to psychic tests. Dhar'Neth and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith sargos Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Yeah! After playing weak necrons all this time I deserve some strong CSM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
She Who Thirsts Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I'm definitely expecting the 'mark of nurgle' to not stack with the Hellbrutes resilience, either that or it is so overly costed that it's not worth the points. Who knows though. The Death Guard Hellbrute has contagions though so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApulianAbaddon Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Curious about the bikes now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 It's at this time my old bitterness shows, it all sounds a bit too good to be true. I want to believe... Nice to see Creations of Bile are still a thing, I never got a chance to run them back in 8th edition. I wish they would bring Doomrider back, I feel like Im doing him dirty using him as a basic Biker champion. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 So EC oblits shoot at full bs in combat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 So EC oblits shoot at full bs in combat?Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Cool now just need noise weapon stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 With the core keyword, I wonder how freely it will be bandied about with the demonic gifs option. Red Corsairs and EC looking strong IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I was curious what Crimson Slaughter and/or Red Corsairs would have since I have a lot of them as well as Black Legion.... just kind of hedging my bets for future projects. Nothing for Crimson Slaughter, but good to see this for Corsairs: Red corsairs •Charge if they advanced •Models count as 2 for obsec Models with 10+ wounds count as 5 •wanton destruction (super doctrine): Heav, rapid, grenade get +1ap - So this puts Corsairs in direct line with White Scars for speed (getting to the opponent ASAP) and mauling them to death. This means the lists will remain similar to the current codex. (When I build Corsairs right now, they work best with monster mash (Disco's, crawlers, Maulers, etc.) This is a bit disappointing but will definitely depend on Huron's rules, as well as wargear/relics/etc. Right now something like the White Scars is slipping.... there's just a lot out there now that doesn't care if you get to it faster.... Templars, Death Guard, Custodes, etc. And then there's a lot out there that is terrified of it as well. I think it's going to come down to the chapter specific warlord traits/relics. The Obsec ability is very good, however, you see a conflict between the units that work best with Obsec, and units that work best with advance + Charge. After killing a unit, the unit is then considered to be in destruction, massacre and slaughter for the rest of the game I think this is crimson slaughter. Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekyle_Abaddon Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Obliterators •have essentially big guns never tire(shoot into engagement range with -1 to hit) •ignore modifier for heavy weapons •armed with powerfists without -1 to hit •Has 3 shooting profiles Heavy 9+d6 s5 ap1 d1 Heavy 3+d3 s7 ap2 d2 Heavy d3 s9 ap3 d4 This is a interesting change. Better and more consistent fire against infantry, but worse against tougher or even moderate vehicles. I was suspecting GW was going to change to obliterators, too much rng. Gone are the days of possibly killing 2 knights in 1 turn. War of the Eagle 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith sargos Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Obliterators •have essentially big guns never tire(shoot into engagement range with -1 to hit) •ignore modifier for heavy weapons •armed with powerfists without -1 to hit •Has 3 shooting profiles Heavy 9+d6 s5 ap1 d1 Heavy 3+d3 s7 ap2 d2 Heavy d3 s9 ap3 d4 Lets hope they stay core or at least get bs+2 Khornestar and Prot 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrest_IW Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Obliterators •have essentially big guns never tire(shoot into engagement range with -1 to hit) •ignore modifier for heavy weapons •armed with powerfists without -1 to hit •Has 3 shooting profiles Heavy 9+d6 s5 ap1 d1 Heavy 3+d3 s7 ap2 d2 Heavy d3 s9 ap3 d4 Lets hope they stay core or at least get bs+2 Probably they core , and they can benefit from doctrines, so 1 turn extra hit on 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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