10th Faction Focus preview: IG

[Tokugawa]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/08/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-astra-militarum-2/

 

Orders are still issued in command phase. If unit become shocked, order effect gone.

 

No detachment rules are previewed today, but the default detachment in index named "Combined Regiment".

Edited May 8, 2023 by Tokugawa

[Tokugawa]

Max infantry unit size is 20 now. Wargear options still mostly follow the box content.

 

Baneblade datasheet. This confirmed that normal lascannon is S12 dmg d6+1, and autocannon is possibly S9 AP-1 dmg3.

 

Battlecannon is S10 AP-1 dmg3. No more infomation about Leman Russ.

 

[Sergeant Bastone]

My Thoughts:

-FRF affects plasma now.

-Chainswords are +2 attacks

-Classic Infantry Squads still exist

-Born Soldiers still exists (hopefully balanced by other choices now)

-Autocannon now does flat 3 damage (!!)

-Krak Grenade profile makes it a viable choice vs plasma now

Edited May 8, 2023 by Sergeant Bastone

[The Pounder]

I’m loving the look of this!!

 

Combined squads sound interesting.

 

I’m happy my Lascannon and Autocannons in my Infantry squads have been given a boost!

 

Also Demolishers seem relevant again. The humble Battlecannon has been up gunned too!

 

Can’t wait to see how my Forgeworld stuff has failed in the new edition.

 

All in seems a solid update.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

The autocannon news is the biggest for me.

a full HWS of them, and an exterminator,  that’ll really help my army out a lot.

 

hopefully this isn’t just the profile for the ACs on the baneblade.

 

not a fan of the vox rework though.

 

also the people upset at the loss of conscripts will hopefully be satisfied being able to double the number of models on squads now.

Edited May 8, 2023 by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

46 minutes ago, Sergeant Bastone said:

My Thoughts:

-FRF affects plasma now

-Chainswords are +2 attacks

-Classic Infantry Squads still exist

-Born Soldiers still exists (hopefully balanced by other choices now)

-Autocannon now does flat 3 damage (!!)

-Krak Grenade profile makes it a viable choice vs plasma now

Remember they changed the way weapon profiles are so they can be tailored to units, the AC profile might be just for BB variants.

 

yeah there’s actually a reason to take a chainsword now.

our units won’t be massive threats in melee but their threat is increased significantly by this.

[Tokugawa]

This could revive a full sentinels UNIT. Crazy!

[librisrouge]

Guys, guys, guys...the heavy stubber is Rapid Fire 3.

 

I don't know what points it'll cost on vehicles (assuming it isn't free) but I think I'll take it on everything. The age of the storm bolter is over. Now we live in the era of .50 cal.

[Emperor Ming]

Absolutely hate that the BC is s10 and ap1....

 

Is it destined to be outshined by other turret weapons every ed

 

Wounding dreadnoughts on 4s, no thanks

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

6 minutes ago, librisrouge said:

Guys, guys, guys...the heavy stubber is Rapid Fire 3.

 

I don't know what points it'll cost on vehicles (assuming it isn't free) but I think I'll take it on everything. The age of the storm bolter is over. Now we live in the era of .50 cal.

I’ve always viewed it more as a .30

[Sergeant Bastone]

9 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said:

Absolutely hate that the BC is s10 and ap1....

 

Is it destined to be outshined by other turret weapons every ed

 

Wounding dreadnoughts on 4s, no thanks

48" range too

[sairence]

I don't think Vox loses it's order range. Right now, the thing that confers the bonus range is the Master Vox in the command squad, the squad vox caster is just a receiver that doesn't do anything on its own. So I imagine it's likely this still works the same way, but that the squad vox gives the added benefit of potential CP refund.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

23 minutes ago, sairence said:

I don't think Vox loses it's order range. Right now, the thing that confers the bonus range is the Master Vox in the command squad, the squad vox caster is just a receiver that doesn't do anything on its own. So I imagine it's likely this still works the same way, but that the squad vox gives the added benefit of potential CP refund.

Somehow i doubt the vox gets both benefits…

[TCC]

Looks like we lost turret weapons. Back to being locked in combat?

[Sergeant Bastone]

I think that part of the rule is supposed to be a core rule now.

 

I assume that the tanks get be given Take Aim now to get the +1 to hit?  Which should apply to everything?  Heavy stubbers having 6 shots hitting on 3s is may be something

 

Edit: Actually I think the heavy stubber only gets 4 shots at half range.

Edited May 8, 2023 by Sergeant Bastone

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

18 minutes ago, Sergeant Bastone said:

I think that part of the rule is supposed to be a core rule now.

 

I assume that the tanks get be given Take Aim now to get the +1 to hit?  Which should apply to everything?  Heavy stubbers having 6 shots hitting on 3s is may be something

 

Edit: Actually I think the heavy stubber only gets 4 shots at half range.

Stubber is rapid 3 so it should get 6 in half range

[Sergeant Bastone]

2 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Stubber is rapid 3 so it should get 6 in half range

Ahh, okay.  Somebody told me that rapid fire weapons just get +1 attack at half range now.  But it looks like it still works the same way from what i can tell.

 

So a plasma gun is going to get 4 attacks at half range now?  Or am reading "Improve the attacks characteristic of rapid fire weapons by 1" incorrectly?

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

3 minutes ago, Sergeant Bastone said:

Ahh, okay.  Somebody told me that rapid fire weapons just get +1 attack at half range now.  But it looks like it still works the same way from what i can tell.

 

So a plasma gun is going to get 4 attacks at half range now?  Or am reading "Improve the attacks characteristic of rapid fire weapons by 1" incorrectly?

If they reworked rapid fire rule I missed it.

[Karhedron]

2 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

hopefully this isn’t just the profile for the ACs on the baneblade.

 

I think that the Autocannon on the CSM squads got the same profile so that looks standard now. Makes a decent Terminator killer. The Ap is only, -1 but each failed save is a kill and they can be taken in numbers. 

[sairence]

It should be whatever the nr next to the rule is as bonus.

 

So Rapid Fire 1 = 1 extra shot

Rapid Fire 3 = 3 extra shots

 

Same with other rules.

Melta 2 = 2 extra points of damage

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

21 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

I think that the Autocannon on the CSM squads got the same profile so that looks standard now. Makes a decent Terminator killer. The Ap is only, -1 but each failed save is a kill and they can be taken in numbers. 

I’ll be very happy if that’s standard.

hopefully the exterminator guns are even better. S10 AP-2 would be great. That would be chewing through gravis and terminators wonderfully 

[sairence]

2 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

I’ll be very happy if that’s standard.

hopefully the exterminator guns are even better. S10 AP-2 would be great. That would be chewing through gravis and terminators wonderfully 

 

I can't see them have more AP than Battlecannons. I expect less S, more shots, but same AP and damage.

 

Unless they inexplicably make them a straight downgrade again.

Edited May 8, 2023 by sairence

[Emperor Ming]

Battlecannon ap has to be an error, its less ap than a krak grenade

[mertbl]

I think its very important to remember their "2 pages of army rules", vox caster range, turret rules, order bouncing etc, will probably all be on those 2 pages.  

[Tokugawa]

9 hours ago, Jud Cottrell said:

I’m loving the look of this!!

 

Combined squads sound interesting.

 

I’m happy my Lascannon and Autocannons in my Infantry squads have been given a boost!

 

Also Demolishers seem relevant again. The humble Battlecannon has been up gunned too!

 

Can’t wait to see how my Forgeworld stuff has failed in the new edition.

 

All in seems a solid update.

Demolisher increased to d6+3 attacks from d6, approximate 86% increase on average, while many other weapons in the game reduced lethality. Definitely a winner.

 

Profile of plasma cannons haven't been previewed, but plasma pistol and plasma gun already confirmed having same S as 9th. So very probably plasma weapons are not "ok against everything" option as before. I also can't see executioner higher than S9.

Edited May 8, 2023 by Tokugawa