Wh40k 10th Edition Munitorum Field Manual (Points)

[TrawlingCleaner]

Points mean prizes!

 

It's fixed squad sizes and free wargear folks

Edited June 16, 2023 by TrawlingCleaner

[apologist]

6 minutes ago, TrawlingCleaner said:

It's fixed squad sizes and free wargear folks

 

I may be misunderstanding, but the squad sizes seem to be changeable; and while some wargear isn't paid for, it is for some units.

 

 

+++Edit+++

Ha – was looking at the 9th edition version! Sorry all.

Edited June 16, 2023 by apologist

[War of the Eagle]

Free upgrades for everyone! (Excluding enhancments)

[TrawlingCleaner]

Crumbs, it would always help if I pasted the right link in there and not 9th edition Munitorum points in there, eh?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/oF1iWIkNsvlUHByM.pdf

Edited June 16, 2023 by TrawlingCleaner

[Holier Than Thou]

That doesn’t seem right. It has points for things that don’t have actual entries anymore, for example Grey Knights Apothecary in the elites slot. I think that’s the last 9th edition one they put out.

[Verevolf]

Wait Wolfguard can have Fists, Claws and Thammers now?!

[TrawlingCleaner]

Send me to be Servitorised

 

Apologies folks, I've corrected the mistaken links

[danodan123]

1 minute ago, TrawlingCleaner said:

Crumbs, it would always help if I pasted the right link in there and not 9th edition Munitorum points in there, eh?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/oF1iWIkNsvlUHByM.pdf

 

Was very confused for a moment or two, cannot lie ! 

[sandrorect]

I was so slow.

Edited June 16, 2023 by sandrorect

[Torvak Kyre]

It’s amazing how my enthusiasm for 10th has fallen off entirely once seeing these indexes and the points situation. The fixed squad sizes and lack of wargear points is fine for AoS where there are very few options within a unit, but there is no universe in which a tactical squad with a flamer and a heavy bolter should cost the same as one with a melta gun and a lascannon. 

[Balerion84]

4 minutes ago, TrawlingCleaner said:

Crumbs, it would always help if I pasted the right link in there and not 9th edition Munitorum points in there, eh?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/oF1iWIkNsvlUHByM.pdf

I was going through those points and comparing to 9th and was really confused. 

[phandaal]

135 points for a unit of Warriors. 

 

Go home, GW. You're drunk!

[Redcomet]

2 minutes ago, Torvak Kyre said:

It’s amazing how my enthusiasm for 10th has fallen off entirely once seeing these indexes and the points situation. The fixed squad sizes and lack of wargear points is fine for AoS where there are very few options within a unit, but there is no universe in which a tactical squad with a flamer and a heavy bolter should cost the same as one with a melta gun and a lascannon. 

I agree. But apparently that is not the game they want anymore. They just want you to roll dice “have fun” and stop asking questions. 
 

Honestly it seems like the dev team has been rushed, or lacks manpowers everything about the rules seem rushed. Like a AAA Live Service game out a year before it should coughfallout76cough.

 

 

[Doobles57]

Fixed unit sizes? Oh no. It works in AoS but not 40k surely. The Custodes stuff has weird things as a result where you can take 2, 3, 5 or 6 Allarus. But not 4. So stupid.

 

On the plus side, 485 point Knight Tyrant? I already liked the data sheet, but at that point level it's definitely seeing play for me!

[Nagashsnee]

Unit sizes do not match up with the index (Mechanicus at least) so already its a show. 

 

Edit wrong link had been posted haha. 

Edited June 16, 2023 by Nagashsnee

[Malakithe]

Wonder why they went with a partial AoS type of unit pointing this time.

 

Points increases everywhere....they are really trying to trim down 40k into what AoS is. A small skirmish game

Edited June 16, 2023 by Malakithe

[tzeentch9]

Guess I'll be overpaying for all my nine man thousand sons squads

[Mandragola]

The fixed squad sizes are indeed annoying. They make it difficult to fill out points and also transports. A Land Raider has a capacity of 12 so you can't fit a squad of 6 aggressors and a character in it, for example.

 

I quite like giving free upgrades though. It means Sergeants will have all their kit now because they may as well, making them more individual (or identical, but with the same best upgrades).

[SlipperyKarst]

Man the Redemptor Dread went from 185 to 225. Geez, that is going to hurt my plan to run a dread heavy list.

[betrayer41]

Lol Did i miss something or do WE only have Khârn and then Zerkers as elites......

 

 

Edited June 16, 2023 by betrayer41

[Captain Idaho]

Wow. So GW went with power level and just called them points and expected no one to mind?

 

Fixed squad sizes too. No wargear costs...

 

I think we need 11th edition to fix what they've done here.

[Akerkoke]

Ok simplified but this seems a bit too much, basically I buy the models, equip them as I see fit absolutely for free and then play?
Why shouldn't I take every upgrade possible for every unit?
I hope this is a sort of "version 1.0, we give you the points so you may play some games to get adjusted to the new rules" and then with subsequent versions they put some coherent point values for everything...

[caladancid]

This is ridiculous. I hope someone in charge sees what the codex/index team is doing (finally) and is embarassed.

[Doghouse]

Isn't this just reskinned power levels?

[Doobles57]

3 minutes ago, betrayer41 said:

Lol Did i miss something or do WE only have Khârn and then Zerkers as elites......

 

 

 

Wrong link. Think it's been updated now - that's the earlier 9th points.