Joe Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 WarCom Article. Been waiting on these. Fun times ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 For those wondering where the other Chaos units are, they're listed at the bottom of the Astartes one with rules on how to take them: Decimators with Sustained Hits are gross, a shame to see them go to Legends! Xenith, Doctor Perils and painting.for.my.sanity 1 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion84 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) So they release LEGENDS before tournament legal rules for half of Custodes and Knights. Do they at GW think it's funny? I don't get it. Edited June 21, 2023 by Balerion84 AenarIT, Arbedark, Hellex_The_Thanatar and 6 others 5 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Balerion84 said: So they release LEGENDS before tournament legal rules for half of Custodes and Knights. Is this supposed to be funny? It's a meta commentary on how people actually liked everything that's going to LEGENDS, and not two of the most reviled factions in the game. CaptainFrederickson, Interrogator Stobz and Special Officer Doofy 1 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion84 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Joe said: It's a meta commentary on how people actually liked everything that's going to LEGENDS, and not two of the most reviled factions in the game. Haha I didn't mean you :D I meant in general, if gw thinks it's funny, I should've clarified, but I didn't read your "fun times ahead" part :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doobles57 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Still no FW Custodes stuff. The wait continues! Still no idea how they're coming up with the order they're listed in. Seems random from one document to the next. No points either yet to go along with these documents from what I can see. Anyway, looks like there's a few fun things in there. My Heresy army may still pull a bit of double duty in 40K until the Legends rules break. Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion84 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Doobles88 said: Still no FW Custodes stuff. The wait continues! Yeah, no rush GW, take your sweet time, we are only missing half of our rules. Who needs rules for half their models, am I right? They look nice on the shelves. I really hope they have them ready before release day... tzeentch9, DarkChaplain and crimsondave 1 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezron Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 *Sees that HH Mechanicus has only 3 Datasheets*Gw please stop fueling my hope for 30k Admech units in 40k. Magos Takatus, Shinespider and Blight1 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Casman Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 No Relic Predators in these? Will they be in the Imperial Armour Compendium or just gone, I wonder? MegaVolt87 and Interrogator Stobz 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Potato Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Rules for the Fellblade and Falchion but not the Glaive? Warhead01 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 oh something for 30k! wait no its just 40k stealing our kits again. Toxichobbit, Cryptix, MechaMan and 13 others 1 13 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Brother Casman said: No Relic Predators in these? Will they be in the Imperial Armour Compendium or just gone, I wonder? I'm pretty sure this is it now, if it's not in any of these PDFs, I don't see them getting rules which is a shame. Perhaps proxying them as Annihilators or Destructors is the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) They do recommend that we can use the index datasheets for appropriately armed Deimos predators, i.e. just a straight proxy for the 40k Mars patterns, but the other turret options would have to have been in here, which they don't appear to be. e.g. conversion beamer, magna-melta etc etc Edited June 21, 2023 by Arkhanist Detjan 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Casman Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, TrawlingCleaner said: I'm pretty sure this is it now, if it's not in any of these PDFs, I don't see them getting rules which is a shame. Perhaps proxying them as Annihilators or Destructors is the way? I'm thinking if they don't turn up in regular Legends or the IA compendium, I'll probably draft some house rules for them. That'll be fun. Brother Sidonius 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spitehorde Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Not impressed. Looking at the Heretic Astartes data cards World Eaters, Thousands Sons, and Death Guard can't take Dreadclaw drop pods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Am I being thick or are there no points costs yet? Maschinenpriester and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I got super excited thinking they’d written in more units for Heresy Legends. Nope. Still just tenth edition. Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Conversion beamers going to 24" range is kinda pathetic. Also a regular Whirlwind has better strength than a Scorpius, what a world to live in. Also Also, am I missing something or are there no rules for loyalist Thunderhawks? Interrogator Stobz and MegaVolt87 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Overall I like some of the rules, particularly for stuff I actually own. Shame I won't be able to use any of it for any of the events I attend, or my gaming group as they want updated and balanced rules. Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colman Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Imperial Armour to come as well, so stuff missing from here may be there. We'll see. At least Spartans (and Mastodons, I want a Mastodon) can carry Primaris now, which means we can move entertainingly big piles of Gravis around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spitehorde Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) Speaking of the Spartan. No Assault Ramp rule for it? Why not? It's pretty much just a stretched limo version of a Land Raider, which does. Both the Proteus and the Achilles get that rule. Just when you think that GW can't get any more bone, they somehow manage to. Edited June 21, 2023 by The Spitehorde MegaVolt87 and Aarik 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) Assuming (I know, never assume with GW) that points on these Legends-units will be about what they "should" be:- Kratos: Looks fine.Kratos Battle Cannon is still trash (must be intentional at this point right?), Volkite Cardanelle still great (esp with OoM) and... Melta blast-gun actually looks decent now? A melta-weapon with more than 9 Str? Is that even legal?Line-breaker as a rule is pretty boring though, not gonna lie, especially since it barely has any blast-weapons. Not getting -1 to hit is nice I suppose.- Leviathan Dreads: Meh.Lost some wounds and what with dreads of all flavours getting a 2+ this is literally simply a Redemptor with a 5++ now: Exact same statline, same special rule and even the same melee-weapon with different name.The only difference other than the 5++ is the ranged weapons, but neither the Melta Lance (typo that it's not [blast]?), the Stormcannon or the Grav-flux Bombard really impresses me. The fact that it doesn't gain anything from having two melee-weapons seems like an oversight (or just lazy ruleswriting).Awaiting final judgement untill I've seen the actual points. Edited June 21, 2023 by Minsc Interrogator Stobz and Aarik 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Overall I like some of the rules, particularly for stuff I actually own. Shame I won't be able to use any of it for any of the events I attend, or my gaming group as they want updated and balanced rules. Everything is "balanced" for a bit, so get your games in while you can. I see no reason why any group would exclude these cards, at least until the first real set of tournament changes comes through. Have fun with your toys. Lord Blacksteel 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 It's missing the Legends Legends stuff too. Unless we don't get 10th edition rules for things like the Land Raider Helios or Siege Dreadnought. Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyslugger Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I've missed the points for these somewhere, could someone point me in the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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