Dezron Posted Monday at 10:36 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:36 AM 4 hours ago, Antarius said: t's always a bit difficult to say for certain, but I'm pretty sure it's not just force of habit that makes me go very firmly "no" to the turret look for the LR. I mean taste is obviously very subjective, but part of the appeal of the LR is that it doesn't look exactly like all the other tanks, while sharing the same design language. Out of curiosity would that still be "no" if it was Razorback or Tarantula style turret rather then tank turret? Antarius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted Monday at 10:45 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:45 AM 5 hours ago, Interrogator Stobz said: And the sponsons need to be at the back. The really dangerous stuff is inside, delivery is key. The guns can still reach out and touch things once the heavy infantry are a smashing. I actually prefer sponsons on the front on Land Raiders. I always found the doors opening directly in front of the sponson guns seemed a bit...risky. Plus the frontal assault ramp seems like the preferred exit point for assault troops, the side doors being more like secondary/emergency options. Re: the turret, I kinda like it, but I do agree it is a little strange having a conventional MBT style turret. My current ADHD-driven project, the Land Raider Consecrator (a rare variant pattern that eschews any transport capacity to shift the vehicle into a full-on heavy tank) has a battle cannon turret, albeit mounted on a limited-traverse casemate housing rather than a full turret. The actual part in question being leftover Malcador superstructure. (I still need to print the other tracks and do some major gap filling and tidy-up work, as well as adding stowage and other details. Also the top plate isn't actually glued on in this photo, hence the track guards at the front not sitting flush.) calgar101, phandaal, ZeroWolf and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted Monday at 10:52 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:52 AM 8 minutes ago, Dezron said: Out of curiosity would that still be "no" if it was Razorback or Tarantula style turret rather then tank turret? The parallelogram look is iconic for the Land Raider. Start adding things on top and it no longer has that look. ZeroWolf, The Praetorian of Inwit, Ammonius and 7 others 1 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Monday at 11:09 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 11:09 AM 22 minutes ago, Evil Eye said: I actually prefer sponsons on the front on Land Raiders. I always found the doors opening directly in front of the sponson guns seemed a bit...risky. Plus the frontal assault ramp seems like the preferred exit point for assault troops, the side doors being more like secondary/emergency options. Re: the turret, I kinda like it, but I do agree it is a little strange having a conventional MBT style turret. My current ADHD-driven project, the Land Raider Consecrator (a rare variant pattern that eschews any transport capacity to shift the vehicle into a full-on heavy tank) has a battle cannon turret, albeit mounted on a limited-traverse casemate housing rather than a full turret. The actual part in question being leftover Malcador superstructure. (I still need to print the other tracks and do some major gap filling and tidy-up work, as well as adding stowage and other details. Also the top plate isn't actually glued on in this photo, hence the track guards at the front not sitting flush.) I mean that reminds me a hell of a lot of the repulsor executioner, but with tracks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted Monday at 12:40 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:40 PM 1 hour ago, Mogger351 said: I mean that reminds me a hell of a lot of the repulsor executioner, but with tracks. Now I can't unsee it. Bother. (Though with the exception of a pintle-mounted storm bolter there will be no more guns on this.) phandaal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted Monday at 12:57 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:57 PM 2 hours ago, Dezron said: Out of curiosity would that still be "no" if it was Razorback or Tarantula style turret rather then tank turret? Hard to say, but yeah, I think so. It depends on what it would do to the overall profile, I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Monday at 01:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:20 PM 22 minutes ago, Antarius said: Hard to say, but yeah, I think so. It depends on what it would do to the overall profile, I guess. I think this looks pretty cool: ThaneOfTas, Crimson Longinus, BrotherCaptainArkhan and 7 others 6 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissful Brushes Posted Monday at 01:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:42 PM Personally I like the idea of a small turret. It’s a massive vehicle and quite underpowered in terms of offensive capabilities- I know it’s a transport - but a predator has the same output. A turret out of the way of the troop bay makes sense to me, visual profile aside, it would be a lot more practical to have the Lascannons on a turret than sponsons so you’re probably never going to cross your cargo with a power armour splitting weapon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted Monday at 01:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:47 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Evil Eye said: I actually prefer sponsons on the front on Land Raiders. I always found the doors opening directly in front of the sponson guns seemed a bit...risky. Plus the frontal assault ramp seems like the preferred exit point for assault troops, the side doors being more like secondary/emergency options. Re: the turret, I kinda like it, but I do agree it is a little strange having a conventional MBT style turret. My current ADHD-driven project, the Land Raider Consecrator (a rare variant pattern that eschews any transport capacity to shift the vehicle into a full-on heavy tank) has a battle cannon turret, albeit mounted on a limited-traverse casemate housing rather than a full turret. The actual part in question being leftover Malcador superstructure. (I still need to print the other tracks and do some major gap filling and tidy-up work, as well as adding stowage and other details. Also the top plate isn't actually glued on in this photo, hence the track guards at the front not sitting flush.) Fair enough comment, but obviously your opinion is wrong I like your project, looks cool especially with the sponsons at the rear. Here are my transport options Here is one of my non-transport options I regret building it like that, but went with the GeeDub standard. Edited Monday at 01:57 PM by Interrogator Stobz phandaal, Evil Eye and Maritn 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted Monday at 01:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:51 PM 1 minute ago, Interrogator Stobz said: Fair enough comment, but obviously your opinion is wrong Certainly wouldn't be the first time! I am curious though, and this is genuinely me asking- what (in-universe) advantage would the sponsons at the rear confer? 3 minutes ago, Interrogator Stobz said: I like your project, looks cool especially with the sponsons at the rear. Thanks! I was going to put them up front but it unbalanced the silhouette, and as it's no longer a transport (the hatches being used solely for the crew and maintaining/reloading the vehicle) the "walking in front of a gun" risk is nullified. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted Monday at 02:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:29 PM I think the turret-less Land Raider is iconic to the setting, and should be preserved. Having turrets on the Repulsor helps set it apart. I like having the different silhouette, readily discernable from a distance and by newer folks. 01RTB01, SvenIronhand, MoriyaSchism and 2 others 1 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted Monday at 04:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:12 PM The Land Raider looks weird and wrong with any kind of proper tank turret attached to it. The only time a turret has worked atop the Land Raider is the Land Raider Hyperios. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted Monday at 04:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:19 PM A turret on the Land Raider is just too high profile for a main battle tank, even by 40k standards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted Monday at 04:46 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:46 PM I think the original is perfect as it is. The Praetorian of Inwit, phandaal, calgar101 and 10 others 2 2 3 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted Monday at 04:48 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:48 PM See I like the repulsor, I’ve not owned a land raider since selling my heresy and firstborn stuff 6 years ago… id buy a new land raider that was crisper immediately DemonGSides, Ammonius, HolyPestilience and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted Monday at 06:02 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:02 PM 1 hour ago, SvenIronhand said: A turret on the Land Raider is just too high profile for a main battle tank, even by 40k standards. I agree. A remote weapon station is a perfect fit for the Land Raider if you really want something on the roof. The Sicaran Venator has a nice RWS that fits any Space Marine tank. SvenIronhand 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted Monday at 06:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:30 PM (edited) On 5/26/2026 at 1:51 AM, Evil Eye said: Certainly wouldn't be the first time! I am curious though, and this is genuinely me asking- what (in-universe) advantage would the sponsons at the rear confer? Thanks! I was going to put them up front but it unbalanced the silhouette, and as it's no longer a transport (the hatches being used solely for the crew and maintaining/reloading the vehicle) the "walking in front of a gun" risk is nullified. Great question, although it still sits way behind the rules of cool it does need consideration. What was going through Land's mind when he designed it? To me (at least) the LR was always a 5 man TDA delivery system that also has Godhammers. It's never been an MBT, it's a transport vehicle for TDA. The Fellblade, Falchion and others do that role. Turrets are an MBT thing while I'm off topic. They also keep their sponsons to the rear, rule of cool prevails. Having the two side doors Forward allows quicker egress with 3 CC TDA out the assault ramp, the heavy weapon and the Sgt out the sides providing direct fires and guidance. That leaves them unimpeded by the sponsons and in cohesion with the front three. The sponsons switch to flank cover while the Lads are working at the front. They are better placed out of the way at that critical time. The Achilles variant is different and is the breaching weapon, hence tye MM in the forward position (Land, the genius that he is made it an adaptive chassis) but the normal LR is a delivery system. I still support the rule of cool beats all, so definitely don't (seriously) knock others opinions, even though they're obviously wrong. Edited 1 hour ago by Interrogator Stobz Antarius, Evil Eye and phandaal 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted Monday at 06:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:54 PM (edited) Duplicate post Edited Monday at 06:59 PM by Interrogator Stobz Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezron Posted yesterday at 08:52 AM Share Posted yesterday at 08:52 AM To get back to rumors, since we are apperantly getting Rhino refresh, will we Also get Razorback ”refresh”? Ammonius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, Dezron said: To get back to rumors, since we are apperantly getting Rhino refresh, will we Also get Razorback ”refresh”? One would certainly hope so! It's one of my favorite Rhino variants and I'd hate to see it removed. Actually, come to think of it, Metallica has perfectly expressed my sentiments on this matter in "Damage Inc." Ammonius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) I don't think the Razorback will survive. I think the Impulsor does the same job, but does it better. Edit: I realise this might annoy some people. I'm merely talking about the way the unit functions within the rules - it's faster, open topped, more durable and has comparable firepower. Edited 22 hours ago by Orange Knight Karhedron and Interrogator Stobz 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, Orange Knight said: I don't think the Razorback will survive. I think the Impulsor does the same job, but does it better. Edit: I realise this might annoy some people. I'm merely talking about the way the unit functions within the rules - it's faster, open topped, more durable and has comparable firepower. Rules can be changed though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, Dezron said: To get back to rumors, since we are apperantly getting Rhino refresh, will we Also get Razorback ”refresh”? It would be nice, but at this point, all of my Razorbacks have interchangeable turrets and can be Whirlwinds if needed. if neither Razorbacks or Whirlwinds exist in some form in the future, well, then I have some neat looking tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlLordy Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Perhaps the razorback will become Grey Knight specific? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Rules can change. The role the Razorback fills in the lore is not the same as the Impulsor. phandaal and Antarius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/25/#findComment-6172673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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