The Castigators

[Darrell]

Minor correction on behalf of the good Commissar; Ramus is Captain of the 6th Tactical Reserve, Tigris is Captain of the 8th Assault Reserve.

 

There are a few people working on Castigator Companies, I believe. They've drawn a lot of attention recently and rightfully so!

[Tyrannicide]

The Fabricator General: He is the only one to have completed Castigator models. :) You can see some of his models here.

 

Commissar Molotov: I believe he is going to start up a thread containing his marines soon.

 

And there's me. I'm in the progress of collecting bits for the army. I plan on waiting until the new Space Marine Codex is released, to purchase the main force and start progress. 2009 will be the year of the Castigator. No doubt about that. :) I just started a thread today, though. You can see it here

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They're are a few others that may be doing Castigator models. I know LunchBox will be creating some sort of Castigator figure, there's some additional info. in the DIY Swap threads going on in the PC&A forum.

 

EDIT: I forgot to mention the list of Companies being created, and their owners.

Me: 3rd Company

Fab Gen: 4th Company

Mol: 5th Company

[Commissar Molotov]

commissar, in your new website are you going to link in the 2 successor chapters ( the Redemptors and the Contemptors)? Have you made IAs on these chapters?

 

Is anyone modeling any of the Castigator battle companies? Any pics?

 

I like the idea of Captain Malus being a zealot. Seeking any target to prove himself to the emperor, the bigger the better. He must purge the battlefield of all things "tainted", and what better way then an overpowering field of fire power. ;)

 

Captain Lucien, the 7th tactical reserve, i think should be a moderate. My reasoning would be because the 7th reserve can use land speeders. Land speeders must be tactically planned and persise or many lives would be lost. The Castigators can ill afford that, with their slow replacement.

 

Captain Ramus, the 8th tactical reserve, I can see him as being a zealot and a close friend to Captain Caphius. Maybe Captain Caphius took him under his wing to make sure that the old ways never die? What better way to make sure Captain Caphius has the best and furious replacements.

 

Yes, there'll be pages. The Redemptors are here; I've always liked them. I have a conversion planned for a Redemptor Captain which I'll try to get online soon enough. As for the Contemptors... well, some among the Castigators would try to tell you that the Contemptors never existed.... :o I have something interesting planned for them on the website, which should be cool.

 

As has been mentioned, Fabricator-General has painted a force from the Fourth Company, under Captain Timon, which he took to Conflict North (I think?) and apparently lost horribly. :) But that experience was incorporated into the Fourth Company background, with them being the most wide-ranged Company in the Chapter. It was a doubles tournament, and Fab-Gen was paired with a Deathwatch player, I'm told - which has led to Timon interacting with the Ordo Xenos. Of course, since I wrote that fluff, my group's acquired a Tau player, so Anteas and the Fifth are going to have to encounter the Tau Empire soon enough...

 

Then there's Darth Potato, slowly working on a force from the Third, and myself, working on the Fifth. Funnily enough, there should be some news on the Fifth soon - keep a weather eye on the PC+A around the 16th. :) Plus, Ferrus Manus has expressed interest in modelling a small Eighth Company force, so that'll be interesting. Of course, I know the prime tenet of the modeller's code is to procrastinate and renege, so we'll see. ;)

 

Your ideas on Ramus and Lucien are interesting indeed. With Ramus being Master of the Rites, I'd similarly considered that he would be quite conservative. He's required to look after the Chapter's extensive traditions, after all. That fourteen-yearly celebration would be part of his dominion, I think. Though with regards to Lucien, I would say that the 'zealots' aren't necessarily 'idiots'. (Caphius isn't exactly the greatest spokesperson for the zealous faction ;)) - it's entirely possible to be a zealot and to be tactically sound, too. I'm keen to avoid narrow thinking when it comes to the Castigators' political landscape. Just like the "Assault = Zealot" stance, the "Zealot = Idiot that rushes forwards and burns things" stance should be avoided at all cost. Though I imagine Lucien might well be moderate - more moderate than Ramus, anyway. Of course, equally, we have to avoid just lumping them into two categories; "zealot" and "moderate" as though they're mutually exclusive. I guess it's possible for a person to slide between the two. Sirius would be one example - having mellowed somewhat in his old age, he's not as rabid as he was in his early years, so will have shifted slightly down the scale.

 

I like the idea of a relationship between Caphius and Ramus, though. I've said before that Caphius hand-picks the recruits he wants from the four Reserve Companies to ensure that his Company maintains 'appropriate' ideals and ideology. Not for nothing are the Second known as 'the Zealots' by those within the Castigators!

 

They're are a few others that may be doing Castigator models. I know LunchBox will be creating some sort of Castigator figure, there's some additional info. in the DIY Swap threads going on in the PC&A forum.

 

Yeah, that's pretty crazy. :o I've got quite a few people painting Castigators, which is cool because on the new site I'm going to have a model gallery that'll include all the Castigators painted by other players and painters. :)

[brother varen]

You have me intrested in the Contemptors now to ;)

 

So no one has tried to model the 2nd company? What additional info can you give me on the 2nd company. I know they use alot of flamers. What else do you see for the 2nd company? I am waiting for the 5th edition to come out before begining a new army, as the new space marines look to be bigger than normal. Plus the rumor is that there will be older marks of armour. I believe that you told me once that the castigator marines modifiy their armour as they advance through the ranks. so the 5th edition will help. Until then, it gives me time to do some research. Any info on the 2nd company would be helpful, along with your ideas and how you see them. How is every one making the chapter symbol? Is the color used by the Fabricator General, right to you for the Castigators?

 

When a Castigator marine earns the right as a battle brother, what mark of armour are they given? If that marines shows promise is he given a different mark of armour? What other wargear relics do the 2nd company have? Any other special characters or Dreadnoughts? Any history on the 2nd company will help with modeling ideas. (enemies they have fought)

[Cpt_Tiberius]

As far as Malus goes, I am working with Mol to flesh him out more. Whether he will be a Zealot or not is still up in the air at this point, but it seems the more likely.

 

As far as modeling goes I am going to throw my hat in the ring and commit to Modeling Cpt. Malus (and maybe a command squad for him). :)

 

-T.

[Commissar Molotov]

So no one has tried to model the 2nd company? What additional info can you give me on the 2nd company. I know they use alot of flamers. What else do you see for the 2nd company? I am waiting for the 5th edition to come out before begining a new army, as the new space marines look to be bigger than normal. Plus the rumor is that there will be older marks of armour. I believe that you told me once that the castigator marines modifiy their armour as they advance through the ranks. so the 5th edition will help. Until then, it gives me time to do some research. Any info on the 2nd company would be helpful, along with your ideas and how you see them. How is every one making the chapter symbol? Is the color used by the Fabricator General, right to you for the Castigators?

 

When a Castigator marine earns the right as a battle brother, what mark of armour are they given? If that marines shows promise is he given a different mark of armour? What other wargear relics do the 2nd company have? Any other special characters or Dreadnoughts? Any history on the 2nd company will help with modeling ideas. (enemies they have fought)

 

One would think if you were trying to do a Second Company army, you'd ask first. :)

[Heru]

One would think if you were trying to do a Second Company army, you'd ask first. -_-

Why did you release the Castigators IA to the public in the first place Mol? ;) ;)

[ToyShip]

oooh dont forget, ther will be a squad or two in the Honor Company, whic i am slowly begining....

[Tyrannicide]

This post includes my thoughts on the Castigators Captain’s duties, to maintain a sort of homeostasis within the Chapter. I’m using the Chapter’s current list of Captains as an example to make this a bit more comparable.

 

Second Company Captain: Caphius would have the strenuous tasks of protecting the Chapter’s fortress monastery, the Sanctuary. When the Second Company is not battle-active the Marines would defend the Castigators keep, and would do this with unerring discipline, that the Second is famed for.

 

Third Company Captain: Sirius’s duty as the Chapter’s Master of the Arsenal would include maintenance checks and the preservation of the Castigators wargear and vehicle distribution. Sirius has access to any relic item or for that matter any piece of wargear in the Chapter.

 

Fourth Company Captain: Timon is the Master of the Fleet in the Chapter. He would survey all the ships actions and involvements, and sustain the dispense of all the Castigators fleet. He has nominal command over the ships, but has some restrictions. One such episode, could be if there was a higher ranking officer. An example would include if Caphius or Escalus showed up in the mix, during a campaign. One could easily claim they have command of the ships involved, over Timon‘s word.

 

Fifth Company Captain: Anteas is the Master of Marches. I honestly haven’t a clue of what his tasks would include.

 

Sixth Company Captain: Ramus, the Castigators Master of Rites. His assignment would encompass the duties of preserving the Chapter’s traditions and they’re history. He would know a considerable amount of data, including the Chapter’s background, previous battles fought, past Captain’s history, etc. Certainly an extremely intelligent Marine, to earn such a place in the Chapter. Ramus could further, possibly be linked to the Chapter’s librarium.

 

Seventh Company Captain: Lucien is the Chief Victualler in the Castigators Chapter. He definitely has an interesting job, to say the least. He would upkeep the Chapter’s provisions and this could range from many things. Molotov mentioned it could be from collecting food for the Chapter’s serfs to fuel and ammunition for the Castigators.

 

Tenth Company Captain: Venatus a grizzled veteran of the Chapter, is the Master of Recruits. His chores consist of mainly overseeing the Castigators recruitment, and finding young healthy initiates for the Chapter. Venatus would also have another responsibility though. He could coordinate with the other Captains and the Chapter Master of the mutual distribution of the scouts, to all the campaigns and battles the Chapter‘s involved in, that call for reconnaissance help.

[Cpt_Tiberius]

QUOTE (Commissar Molotov @ Jun 8 2008, 08:12 PM)

One would think if you were trying to do a Second Company army, you'd ask first.

Why did you release the Castigators IA to the public in the first place Mol?

 

Well they ARE his creation afterall. I mean if someone wanted to to make an army of one of your chapters, wouldn't you want them to ask first?

[brother varen]

my apologies Commissar, I guess i did forget that. Was in a rush, life was calling. I would like to ask permission Commissar, if life can be given to the Castigator 2nd company. :P

 

if you give permission, i would like it if you shared your insights on the 2nd company with me. Hope to hear from you soon.

[Commissar Molotov]

Interesting post. The point about homeostasis is an odd one, but I can see where you're going with that - all the Captains must work in conjunction to ensure the Chapter can endure. And especially in a Chapter like the Castigators, with those tensions between the more moderate Captains and the more zealous ones - there is one thing that unites them all. They're Castigators.

 

The issue of the roles of the Captains is one I've always been interested in. There's an article in the Librarium, but I don't think it quite does it justice (and I personally think some of it is wrong).

 

Master of the Watch: Obviously the Master of the Watch has the duty of protecting the Chapter's Fortress Monastery. The Apocalypse rulebook suggests that as 'custodian of the Chapter Fortress and protector of the Chapter' the Master of the Watch would bear a Storm Shield. I think that's somewhat of a symbol of office, which Caphius could use if he wished. Though it would be up to him, really. We've seen him with a Power Fist, and I've imagined that the new plastic Captain from the starter box looks like he would hold no small promise as the base for a Caphius conversion. His duties, to my mind, would consist of the defence of Losanco Secundus, the Losanco system itself (to a lesser extent) and that of the Sanctuary. I imagine that the Losanco system would have system defense craft patrolling (like in Warriors of Ultramar) and the Sanctuary would boast massive defences, cannons and the like. Though they've never been needed, the thought of enemies on Losanco would be abhorrent to the Castigators. Though like many of these positions, it's somewhat nominal - Caphius might be responsible for it, but the Second aren't going to be sitting in the Sanctuary all the time - I imagine that defending Losanco would be rotated throughout the Companies. At different times, different Companies would be refitting, resupplying and the like. Plus there would be a fairly substantial force of Reservists and Scouts training upon the Sanctuary at any one time. And then you can factor in the Chapter serfs.

 

Master of the Arsenal: 'Unfettered access' to the Chapter's wargear. I think your assertation is correct, for the most part. Sirius would have to work with the Chapter's techmarines to ensure that the Chapter is capable of waging war in the Emperor's name. Obviously, he has nominal control over the weaponry, there would be certain situations where he wouldn't. For example, sometimes weaponry and equipment is gifted to a Marine for his service, which means that Sirius wouldn't just be able to take it away. An example would be when Quintilius gave the Chastener (the Chapter's only combi-plasma) to Timon. Sirius wouldn't be able to take it back off him, because the Chapter Master's issued an edict.

 

Master of the Fleet: There was a PDF released by Specialist-Games a while ago that talked about fleet organisations. Whilst interesting, it conflicted with a lot of existing fluff.

 

Whilst these serfs make up the vast bulk of crews aboard Space Marine vessels, the Master of the Fleet also has a number of Space Marines under his command... in some cases, it will be the Master of the Fleet's own company who provide these Marines, with each of his Veteran Sergeants acting as Captain to a different vessels within the fleet... in other cases, squads from different companies within the Chapter may be charged with manning the fleet, serving under the command of the Master of the Fleet in just the same way as a Space Marine battleforce may be made up of squads drawn from several companies across the Chapter under the battle-comand of a single, nominated force commander. At an absolute minimum, the Master of the Fleet typically needs eighty to a hundred Marines to properly crew the fleet, its Thunderhawks and its landing craft, and most Chapters have measures in place to ensure that a standing force of this size is permanently available to the Master of the Fleet.

 

This presents somewhat of a problem, as if you took at its most literal, the Fourth Company would never actually fight, as they'd be too busy serving as ship crew for the other Companies. I'm inclined to suggest that the Castigators have troops from various Companies (most notably the reserves, I would think) that crew the fleet. The PDF goes on to suggest that whilst nominal Command of the fleet goes to the Master of the Fleet, typically individual Captains will find themselves in charge of a battle-force and the accompanying vessels, giving them additional honorific titles such as 'Regent of the Fleet' or 'Commander at Sail' for the duration. Timon's role is still important, though:

 

Captain Timon is a long-serving Castigator, and a staunch ally of Chapter Master Quintilius. As Fourth Company Captain, Timon holds the ceremonial title 'Master of the Fleet'. As such, he is nominally in charge of every vessel owned by the Chapter and all of the serfs crewing them. Typically, these responsibilities are delegated to others in order to allow Timon's Company to fight, but the Captain takes his duties seriously, diligently overseeing every arrangement made to ensure the Chapter can fight effectively. Such arrangements include dealing with the fleet's Navigators, Techmarines and Astropaths.

 

There would be some situations, though - for example the Strike Cruiser Inviolate is traditionally a Second-Company vessel, even going back as far as Hero-Captain Lycidius. So there sometimes might be precedent for the Second Company (over other Companies) to use the Inviolate, as it's a faithful vessel. Tradition means a lot to the Space Marines, after all. Though the Second have been depicted using other vessels, they might favour the Inviolate.

 

What you said regarding Caphius or Escalus turning up - I think even if Quintilius turned up, Command of the Fleet would typically be Timon's responsibility. (Although Marneus Calgar is depicted as leading the fleet against Tyranids). I figure the Space Marines have got a tradition of delegating responsibility to where it's needed and required.

 

Master of the Marches: The Master of the Marches is an interesting one, actually. This article seems to refer to the Marches as a 'Border Region' and then I found this reference to Marcher Lords:

 

Marcher Lords were strong, trusted Lords appointed by the King to guard the borders with Wales and Scotland...From the Norman conquest of England until the reign of King James VI of Scotland, who also became King James I of England, border clashes were common and the monarchs of both countries relied on Marcher Lords to defend the frontier areas known as the Marches. They were hand-picked for their suitability for the challenges the responsibilities presented.

 

So you could easily make the argument that the Master of the Marches is responsible for defending the Chapter's borders with other regions. I think that might clash somewhat with what I said earlier about Caphius being responsible for the system defences. Which is interesting, when you think about the strained relationship between Caphius and Anteas... they're both jointly responsible for keeping the Chapter's home safe.

 

Master of the Rites: Yes, to my mind Ramus is in charge of the Chapter's traditions. As I've mentioned before, he would be responsible for the fourteen-yearly celebration. He'd also be responsible for the Chapter's other traditions - ensuring that long-dead heroes are venerated, that days are honoured, so on and so forth. You're probably right that he'd have some contact with the Librarium. I also imagine him having some contact with the Dreadnoughts, too. He'd perhaps have a strong sense of 'the old days' - the Chapter's heritage and such. He would've loved to have fought alongside the Black Consuls! :P Though I can imagine he would've supported Sirius's assault against the Tyranids in honour of the Ultramarines.

 

Chief Victualler: This would be to do with the supplies. And I certainly can't imagine Lucien having too much knowledge of the food in the Serf's kitchens - his job would be more to oversee things. Signing reports and order forms and such. Though he might well have relatively close contact with the AdMech and the like. And the Serfs, of course. But as said, he would be responsible for much of the Chapter's needs, from food through to ammunition or fuel for the fleet. So he would coordinate closely with many of the other Captains.

 

Master of Recruits:: Tasked with overseeing the training of the Chapter's neophytes. Venatus would be responsible, to my mind, for selecting the best recruits and then giving them the best training. He would have to work closely with the Apothecarion and the Reclusiam. I imagine him having a good relationship with his Recruiting Sergeants. They would be responsible for the Chapter's future, and it is no small duty. Yes, I agree that he would be in close communication with the Battle-Company Captains, to ensure the Scouts are put to good use and given adequate training.

 

Of course, the one missing would be 'Chapter Regent' - That would be Escalus, responsible for Losanco itself when Quintilius would be unavailable.

 

Varen: I'll PM you.

[Heru]

QUOTE (Commissar Molotov @ Jun 8 2008, 08:12 PM)

One would think if you were trying to do a Second Company army, you'd ask first.

Why did you release the Castigators IA to the public in the first place Mol?

 

Well they ARE his creation afterall. I mean if someone wanted to to make an army of one of your chapters, wouldn't you want them to ask first?

Don't worry Tiberius, I'm just poking fun at Molly he knows I'm just joking around :lol:

[brother varen]

The Castigators appeal to me spiritually. Their purity/light trying to fight back the growing darkness of the galaxy appeals on so many levels. I think this is why the Castigators have so many supporters. For they strike a spiritual cord in us all, each decision made in our daily lives helps us fight the growing darkness around us. I would eventualy be doing the whole 2nd company with support, not all at the same time though. My daily life limits the time i have to that which makes me happy. :)

 

I know the importance of the 2nd company to you, Mol. I guess i should ask if i can call you Mol, huh? :huh: The 2nd company will be very hard to get their zealous feel to them. With your insights and thoughts, i believe we could make it work.

 

How do you invision Captain Caphius? You said that Caphius styles himself after hero-captain Lycidius. What info do you have on Lycidius? What wargear does Captain Caphius have? Has he been seconded to the deathwatch? What honors does he hold? You have said that Caphius has a powerfist, is it the same one as Lycidius's?

 

What battles and enemies have the 2nd fought? What other wargear relics do the 2nd company have? Any other special characters or dreadnouhgts in the 2nd? When a castigator marine earns the rite as a battle brother, what mark of armour does he get? If that marine shows promise, is he given a diffrent armour type? Is there anything in your mind that sets out the 2nd company from the rest of the Castigators? Do the 2nd company use a certain mark of armour more than the rest? What about weapons?

 

Is the color used by Fabricator Gerenal right to you for the Castigators? How is everyone making the chapter symbol?

 

The way i see a standard marine from the 2nd company is a marine with a bolter, chain sword, a boltpistol holstered on one hip and a hand flamer holstered on the other. They must be prepred for any situation with zealous action. Is this how you see them?

[Commissar Molotov]

Is this how you see them?

 

Not at all. Not in the slightest.

 

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I'll try to deal with your questions in order.

 

Hero-Captain Lycidius:

 

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/CaptainLycidius.jpg

 

Lycidius rose quickly through the ranks of the Castigators. His uncompromising views garnered him many supporters within the Chapter, and he was seen as destined to eventually become Chapter master. However, there were those within the Chapter who criticised him for his ideological inflexibility and his outright hostility towards the techpriests, navigators and astropaths under his command. He first rose to prominence in 635.M37 with two back-to-back victories that brought the Chapter huge honour and glory. The Cheng Exculpation, at the start of the year, was a massive assault on an orbital hive-city riven to the core with the corruptions of Chaos. The Boarding Torpedoes of the Second Company penetrated the hull, allowing the boarders to destroy the gravitational anchors holding the hive in place. The massive construction crashed to the planet's surface, destroying it completely. On their way back to the Sanctuary, Lycidius and his men received a distress call from the colony of Aeteron Point, under attack from the Dark Eldar. The Company was understrength and underequipped, but Lycidius was determined to assist the colony. Many Marines wounded in the Cheng Exculpation took to the battlefield, ignoring their injuries. Captain Lycidius dispatched the Eldar Archon himself in single combat. With the slave-ships in orbit crippled and the remaining Dark Eldar forces routed, the colonists of Aeteron Point were spared the terrible fate of living as slaves in the service of the torturous aliens. The prisoners taken were returned to the colony and the Castigators returned home in glory. By 701.M37, Lycidius had been appointed Captain of the First Company. His first duty was to lead the Terminators of the First into the space hulk Horror of Malediction. He served as First-Captain for several decades, until the Truth War, a dark time that stretched the bonds of honour the Chapter enjoys with the Inquisition to breaking point. A time that saw the Castigators charged with heresy and ended with the death of the Lycidius. He never reached the position of Chapter Master, and was buried in the Sanctuary.

 

Caphius:

 

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/Caphius.jpg

 

Caphius idolises Lycidius. He styles himself after the Hero-Captain, but the irony is that he's far older than Lycidius was when he became First-Captain - and Caphius is still part of the Second Company. He's not served in the Deathwatch, no - though he's caught the attention of puritan Inquisitors before. After all, Caphius is the very model of the avenging Astartes warrior, fulfilling the Emperor's design for the Space Marines (that is, annihilating their enemies). No, his power fist wasn't worn by Lycidius. Caphius wears the Hero's Mantle, a cloak once worn by Lycidius; his weapons are his own. You could make a case that Caphius fights with power fist and power sword. In some circles, the sword is the traditional weapon for the Captains, and Caphius is certainly one for tradition.

 

Company II:

 

I've not detailed the Second Company extensively - I was content for Caphius and his merry band of zealots to be (very influential) background characters. Their most recent recorded battle was in 995.M41, the defence of Maethax - Caphius's plans fell through entirely, and the Fifth Company under Captain Anteas had to save the day. The ironic thing is that Caphius stole all the glory for the decisive victory of the Castigators over their hated foes, the Word Bearers.

 

Before that, I have a record of them fighting in 969.M41 against the Ork Warboss, Duffdreg da Destroya. Though Caphius was able to stymie the Ork hordes, Duffdreg managed to elude the Castigators, escaping into the warp. At the time, it was sene that his role in the vicinity was over, and that was victory enough. Still, Caphius and his Company swore fell oaths of vengeance against Duffdreg, determined to crush him utterly should their paths cross again. In 939.M41, Caphius fought against the twin Ork empires of Warboss Bigmaw and Warboss Grimskar. In 900.M41, the entire Chapter fought the Garrett Insurrection, crushing a Word Bearers force. (Though Third Company won most of the honours in that campaign, as they were the ones that took the fortifications.)

 

So on and so forth, for the Chapter's history.

 

When a Marine is inducted into the Castigators, he gets whatever armour is available. It seems ridiculous to say that as a Marine goes up in rank, he swaps his armour for a different mark. A Space Marine and his armour are near-inseperable - it keeps him alive and allows him to fight with a superiority that excells all other fighting forces in the galaxy. I imagine many Castigators would be loath to swap their armour, unless important circumstances mandated such.

 

The typical Marine of the Second Company would fight with a Bolter, Bolt Pistol and Monomolecular Combat Blade. The Castigators adhere to the Codex. They don't need hand flamers. They don't need chainswords. They must be prepared to meet any situation with zealous action, certainly. But their faith and their force of will enables them to do that. They don't need to rely on gimmicks. They are, they believe, the finest in the Chapter. Among the finest in the Galaxy. They're the Emperor's Will made manifest. There is nothing they can't accomplish with a prayer on their lips, faith in their hearts and a fully-loaded Bolter.

 

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With regards to the colour schemes and Chapter symbols, I'm an advocate of hand-painting. It's what I'm doing. It's what Fab-Gen did. Darth Potato is keen to wuss out and get decals made, but I'm seriously not in favour of that.

 

This was done by Fab-Gen:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Cormack/Castigators/DSCF2010.jpg

 

Leads to this:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Cormack/Castigators/DSCF1898.jpg

[ToyShip]

Your last post was a great read Mol. Looks like you are heading in the direction we had talked about. Quick question though, are you going to have a piece of artwork done for each company captain? I cant wait to see Anteas if so!! Im always rooting for him, the youngest and most misunderstood Castigator. :P

[Commissar Molotov]

Tiberius and I have talked about having a portrait done for each Castigator, for consistency. That's a way off, though. Something for the website, I think.

[Ferrus Manus]

With regards to the colour schemes and Chapter symbols, I'm an advocate of hand-painting. It's what I'm doing. It's what Fab-Gen did. Darth Potato is keen to wuss out and get decals made, but I'm seriously not in favour of that.

 

Another Tip would be to leave the shoulder guard on the sprue. Spray it and paint it red, highlight and so on. Then paint the symbol using Fab Gen's method, then glue it on the model.

[brother varen]

I'm a little puzzled, Mol. The Drawing of Captain Caphius shows The =I= on his armour in 2 spots. The first is the belt and the other is on the corner of his left sholder pad. I thought they couldn't show the symbol unless seconded to the deathwatch? Unless i missed something.

 

What about battle honors for both Caphius and the 2nd company? Caphius's drawing shows the wreath of thorns. Is this correct? If so what warrented the honor?

[Commissar Molotov]

Seerbrun is a great artist, but he's taken a great deal of liberty with the Castigators he's drawn. He named his Chaplain 'Karakalla', which isn't even a Latin name, forcing me to come up with a long and torturous explanation of how Chaplain Coratus acquired such a monicker. Equally, he drew what he liked on the Captain. And that's his right - I don't want to take anything away from the huge favours he's done for me. But you can understand why I'm keen to keep creative control of the Castigators after experiences like that.

 

So you want the real reasons? It's because an artist decided to draw things with little understanding for how it would affect the fluff. If you want the fluff reason, Castigators are entitled to wear the Inquisitorial symbol as an honour marking on occasion. Marines that are seconded to the personal service of an Inquisitor, or who join the alien-hunting Deathwatch are entitled to display Inquisitorial symbols upon their armour when they return to their chapter. As for the wreath of thorns, he would've been assigned it for ar act of extreme valour that directly contributed to an Imperial victory. Caphius has such a long history of service that he could've received it at any time. Bluntly stated, I'm not going to make up battles on the spot to cover up the fact that I haven't detailed it. As stated, Caphius was meant to be a background character. A hugely influential and important background character, but just a background character. The Second Company is featuring in my Castigators fiction, Machinery of Hate.

[Commissar Molotov]

Further to my previous post: Because you asked about them, Varen, there's a link to the very basic start I had on the Contemptors. This isn't a Contemptors discussion thread, though, but I figured you might be interested in reading it, if only for your own edification.

[Ferrus Manus]

Just reading back through the thread and I saw this:

 

Toyship's also raised the issue of an epic poem, which I want to run by Barret, as he had a similar idea once. If I'm going to do that, I'll need help! I have no idea what such a poem would be about, but I can imagine it being recited at one of the Castigators' fourteen-yearly gatherings. Any suggestions are more than welcome.

 

Possibly a poem about the founding of the Castigators. Thats something I can see them reciting every 14 years.

[Commissar Molotov]

Organisation

In accordance to the Codex Astartes, the Castigators maintain ten companies, adhering to the tenets of the Codex Astartes as laid down by Primarch Roboute Guilliman over ten thousand years ago. What follows is an explanation of the Chapter's structure.

Chapter Headquarters
The Chapter's headquarters - also known as the 'Master's Household' - is the province of the Chapter Master, and also includes his personal Honour Guard. It comprises the senior hierarchy of the chapter, along with specialist organisation such as the Reclusiam, Apothecarion, Librarius and Armoury (detailed below). The officers of the household often include marines too old or infirm to continue fighting. They have huge reserves of knowledge and experience and are well-suited to advise the Master on strategy and tactics. The chapter's administration is governed by Chapter serfs.

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Armoury
The Armoury comprises the Chapter's Techmarines and servitors. The Techmarines maintain vehicles, transports and ships, as well as overseeing the work of the artificers. The artificers are human serfs that fabricate, maintain and repair weapons, armour and banners. They are also responsible for adding campaign badges, honour markings and other icons to the Chapter's wargear and warmachines. The Chapter's battle-brethren are usually forbidden to set foot within the Chapter's forges. It is here that the Techmarines build, repair and maintain the chapter's equipment. On the battlefield Techmarines usually form their own detachments and typically operate seperately from the main battleforce, concentrating on conducting battlefield repairs to damaged wargear.

Like the majority of Space Marine chapters, the Castigators honour ancient pacts with the Adeptus Mechanicus that stretch back millennia to their very founding. Those amongst the Castigators with an affinity for technology are dispatched to Mars, where they are initiated into the Martian tech-cults. This is acknowledged as a necessary process - without the techmarines, the Adeptus Astartes would be left unable to tend to the machine spirits, to observe the rites that ensure continued operation of their wargear, or to repair damage taken on the field of battle. But the process comes at a lamentable price - the loss of battle-brothers to the worship of the Omnissiah. The techmarines are mysterious and capricious, aloof and distant. Their inscrutable ways are not easily understood by most of the battle-brethren. Indeed, some of the more zealous factions among the chapter distrust the techmarines. To them, the worship of the Omnissiah is at best dangerous, and at worst heretical. It is a duty of the Chapter Master to ensure that these ideological tensions are defused and that no blood is spilt.

It is said that some of the Castigators

[Ferrus Manus]

Heres my notes on the Eighth Company, I tried to keep them to the same format as Darth Potato's:

 

Tigris is a strong, well-liked Captain. Only relatively recently inducted as Captain of the Assault Reserve, he greatly values the respect of his peers, and aims to win it through glorious victory. He meticulously plans his assaults in order to ensure the enemy cannot thwart him before launching into the fray at the head of his Battle-Brothers, leading by example.

Victrix - A symbol of his fighting style - carefully lining up the attack, and then swinging down with devastating force. The winged axe. The name represents what he wants to achieve - Victory and through victory - glory, and ultimately respect.

Personal History

 

- Inducted into the Castigators 863.M41

- The Garrett Insurrection 900.M41 - Tigris takes part in the siege as a member of the Tenth Company. He and his squad were used to prevent land based supply lines entering the fortress. At the end of the battle he is inducted into the Eighth Company, under Brother-Captain Lucan.

- Joins the Fourth Company under Captain Timon. Becomes Assault-Sergeant in twenty years. He formed a good friendship with Timon. 934.M41

- The Death of Captain Lucan fighting the Orks on Glavia Secundus. Tigris put forward for Captaincy. 970.M41

- Defence of Dalaham. 973.M41

- Recion War. 996.M41

 

Allies

 

Venatus - An old friend, possibly once Tigris’ Captain during his time as a Scout. To Tigris, Venatus is a father figure who deserves huge amounts of respect and as such he treats him with great reverence. Also, he reminds Tigris of where he came from and what his duties as a Castigator and an astartes are to Humanity and the Emperor.

 

Anteas - There is a mutual respect between Anteas and Tigris. Both have the same moral views, and both are moderates. In a clash between the two factions both know they can count on each other for support.

 

Timon - A good friend, a relationship forged in the fires of war. Tigris previously served under Timon during his time in the 4th Company. Tigris has the utmost respect for Timon, it was he who first showed Tigris the basis for strategy.

 

Escalus - A man respected by most within the chapter. Tigris respects him for his neutrality and his battle skill. To Tigris he is the pinnacle of a warrior: respected by his peers and godlike upon the battlefield.

 

Tigris' Heraldry

 

Winged axe. Represents Victrix.

 

8th Company

 

The 8th Company is led by the youthful Captain Tigris - second only to Anteas - who has led the company for only twenty five years. However, despite his youth Tigris is an excellent tactician. He meticulously prepares his plans, leaving no option unchecked. Being so young, Tigris craves the respect of his fellow captains, as such he leads from the front aiming to prove himself and his company in the fires of combat. Since becoming captain, Tigris has led his company in three major engagements, the most recent on the planet Recion Prime, which had been assaulted by a warband of hellspawn and heretics.

 

Chaplain Decius - A marine who is almost three times as old as Tigris. He looks after the spiritual health of the Eighth Company, as he has been for the last two hundred years. To the eight he represents their honour and gains much respect from the men.

 

First-Sergeant Tiberius - Tiberius is the senior sergeant in the Eighth Company, and has been since the Garrett Insurrection. He is one of Tigris’ closest friends and he often looks to Tiberius for support. Like Tigris, Tiberius prefers to lead from the front.

 

Apothecary Crassus - It is Crassus’ grim duty to harvest the Progenoid glands from the fallen of the Eighth. He is a grizzled veteran who has fought in many campaigns. He receives much respect from the warriors of the Eighth, due to the fact he has saved their lives at least once - in battle or on the medical table.

 

Lexicanium Eonus - More to come.

 

Recent company disposition charts show the ten squads that currently make up the Reserve Company:

 

1st Assault Squad, Tiberius

2nd Assault Squad, Cato

3rd Assault Squad, Cassius

4th Assault Squad, Amatius

5th Assault Squad, Crispus

6th Assault Squad, Menathus

7th Assault Squad, Gracus

8th Assault Squad, Septimus

9th Assault Squad, Lucius

10th Assault Squad, Metellus

 

NB - Each of the assault squads has many was of going to war, including Jump Pack, Bike, Land Speeder and Rhino APC.

 

Notable Campaigns

787.M41 - The Purging of Helion IV - The Eighth Company is called into action against an isolated cell of heretics, who are believed to be working for the Word Bearers Chaos Legion. They were slaughtered quickly and without loss.

 

900.M41 - The Garrett Insurrection - The entire Chapter mobilized to fight against a planetary uprising orchestrated by the Word Bearers. The battle lasted a full week, at which point the Third Company assaulted a breach in the enemy lines with Ancient Constantine, Bearer of the Crimson Standard. Constantine was killed and the standard passed to Rhetoricus. The Eighth Company played a minor role harrying the enemy lines and diverting their attention from the main force. The day was won by the Third Company. Tigris is inducted in the Eighth.

 

973.M41 - Defence of Dalaham - The capital city of Syrrios - Dalaham -was assaulted by the vile Eldar for unknown reasons. The Eighth, under the newly promoted Captain Tigris, assaulted the Eldar in two prongs crushing them between the two forces. The planet was free within the month.

 

996.M41 - Recion War - The Eighth and a unit of Terminators from the 1st Company, under the command of Inquisitor Samios, drove out a force of heretics from the system, there were reported sightings of daemonic hellspawn. The company sustained minimal losses.

 

EDIT: Ive added my notes on Tigris.

[brother varen]

I respect your creative control, that is why i have been asking you questions. I apologize if i have been bombarding you with to much. I agree with you on the new captain minature from the 5th edition box set, as being suitable for Caphius. Just needs a little work. Everything that i do for the Castigators will be run through you first. ;)

 

I am still working on ideas. When i have time to compile the info, i'll post it here or PM you. ;)

 

Ferrus Manus, nice work. Looking forward to see more.