Commissar Molotov Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Well, he could be Captain Caphius, noted zealot and current Captain of the Second Company, in which case he'd be very much 'recent'. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1496210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeerBrun Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Well... I'd prefer an actual date and then I can work with it and figure out what I need to do from there. What I have planned isn't in 'modern' time. Its fairly close to it. I will figure something out either way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1496514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Ah, right. Well as I said, Caphius is the 'current' (999.M41) Captain of the Second Company. It'd make more sense if you told me what time your IE stuff is set (or PM me whatever you don't want people to read) and I can arrange things accordingly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1496519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) Scally's helped to solve my problems regarding the colour schemes. He sent me this example of a Castigator Veteran, based off this earlier drawing by Colrouphobic:  http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/CastigatorsVeteran.gif  In other news, the Caphius/Lycidius split is resolved:  This is Captain Caphius, Second Company Captain of the Castigators, and Master of the Watch.  http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/Caphius.jpg  And this is Hero-Captain Lycidius, Martyr of the Castigators.  http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/CaptainLycidius.jpg  Thanks to SeerBrun for the pictures.  Caphius is a member of the Old Guard, the oldest currently-serving Captain in the Chapter. He adheres rigidly to the doctrines of older, zealous Castigators such as Hero-Captain Lycidius. He sees his Company as a furious weapon in the arsenal of the Imperium, and has hand-picked the most faithful and furious Marines from the reserve Companies to supplement his forces. In battle, Caphius leads from the front, knowing that his Sergeants and their Marines are each as devoted to the cause as he. The Second Company is known to use a high proportion of flamer weapons in order to ensure heretics and recidivists receive no succour. Brash, egotistical and bombastic, Caphius attempts to ensure he is in Command of any operation to which he is assigned.  Lycidius is one of the major heroes of the Castigators. A zealot. He was awarded the status of "Hero" after his death. He was never "Hero-Captain" until after his death. I've never fully detailed his history, but on the old Castigators site I had a mention of his defense of a colony called 'Aeteron Point' against Dark Eldar. He also emerged triumphant from a vicious campaign known as the Cheng Exculpation.  This is what I managed to recover from the old site:  635.M37: The Defense of Aeteron PointThe small and recently-established colony of Aeteron Point fell victim to a string of raids by Dark Eldar corsairs in early 635.M37. Jetbikes shrieked through the sky, harrassing the beleagured PDF forces whilst raiders laden with prisoners returned to the orbiting vessels.  It was at this point that the Castigator Strike Cruiser Inviolate broke out of the warp and attacked the Dark Eldar. The Castigators' Second Company, under Captain Lycidius had been returning home after its victories in the Cheng Exculpation. Due to the vagaries of astropathic communication, the Inviolate had actually received the colony's distress call a week before it was sent. The Company was understrength and underequipped, but Lycidius was determined to assist the colony. He had a keen tactical mind, and knew of the formidable agility, barbarism and strength of the Dark Eldar. He also knew that their greatest weakness would be their arrogance and complete disdain towards humans. Assigning the veterans under his command to board and cripple the slave-ships in orbit, the Captain led his depleted company to the surface. Many Marines wounded in the Cheng Exculpation took to the battlefield, ignoring their injuries.  Lycidius had determined that the key to victory lay in forcing the Eldar into a trap, where they would lose their precious mobility. He deployed his forces to a landmark known as the Iron Valley, interposing the Second Company between the Colony and the returning Raiders. Establishing overlapping fields of fire and secreting a battery of Whirlwinds out of sight of the aliens, he deployed a small force of Marines openly to bait the Eldar into attacking. The understrength force seemed easy pray to the overconfident pirates, flush with victory. It is said that captured Astartes fetch a high price in the slave-markets of their hellish realm.  The Captain's gambit worked. The Space Marine forces withdrew as the Eldar approached, drawing the fragile enemy craft within range of the Whirlwinds' artillery guns. Under a withering hail of fire, the Castigators attacked, eradicating their foes. Captain Lycidius dispatched the Eldar Archon himself in single combat. With the slave-ships in orbit crippled and the remaining Dark Eldar forces routed, the colonists of Aeteron Point were spared the terrible fate of living as slaves in the service of the torturous aliens. The prisoners taken were returned to the colony and the Castigators returned home in glory.  Please do me a favour and go check out this thread! Edited February 19, 2008 by Commissar Molotov Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1498468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 (edited) I've been working quite a bit on the Castigators after Darth Potato inspired me. I've been working on some of the various personalities within the Chapters (especially the Battle-Company Captains, Caphius, Sirius, Timon and Anteas). Stuff that probably wouldn't matter that much to you guys, but stuff which is solidifying and tying up many of the disparate concepts I've invested in the Castigators. Â I'm also (re)working on a piece of Castigators fiction called Machinery of Hate which is told from the point of view of Acastus, the Librarian attached to the Fifth Company. It's a story that features the Second and Fifth Companies. Â I'm fervently hoping to get a new Castigators site up and operational as soon as possible, because I've had a great deal of cool ideas that'll hopefully interest some of you. Â I've also been planning to detail the Castigators' homeworld a bit more - I've been drawing on a previous quote from Barret: Â [Perhaps] similarly to the Twi'leks, they live primarly in the twilight zone (dun dun dunnnn) between night and day, staying out of the radiated day side, but far enough out of the night side to avoid freezing. In my mind, that last would make their plight much more dramatic and precarious, literaly caught between the light and dark, between mutation and freezing doom. I really like this, and I think it's a very iconic element of the 40k universe. Freedom and liberty are the doom of mankind and, here, daylight is death and nighttime little safer. Â I had the idea of some of the raiding parties that assault the mutants, venturing from the twilight zones to the day-side, wrapped in rags much like a Tusken Raider to avoid the worst of the heat and radiation. My thought was that the Chaplains watch these parties fighting the mutants, and on their way back home, they stop them, taking those children that prove to be of a suitable age. In return perhaps the Losancans receive some measure of technology or supplies to make their lives that little bit easier. Â More rambling will commence at a later date, I'm sure. Â EDIT: Â A few of you will've seen Chaplain Karakalla. Awesome picture, undoubtedly, but it presented me with a few problems (dang artists taking liberties! ;)) - his name, Karakalla, isn't a Castigator name at all. All the Castigators take Latinesque names. And he's adorned with a huge Crux Terminatus on his breastplate. Â So I've decided to try to justify these discrepancies. Chaplain Renatus, who was previously my First Company Chaplain alongside First-Captain Escalus, will now be the Chapter's Master of Sanctity. Karakalla will be the First Company Chaplain. Â Now, with regards to the name... I decided that it might well be a title of some sorts - I've decided to link it back to my Dark Claws. I wrote this in one of my notebooks: Â 'Karakalla means "Heavy Heart" in the primitive tongue of Kal Tunivor, the homeworld of the Dark Claws Chapter. It was given to Castigator Chaplain Coratus during the War of Woes, a campaign where the two Chapters served together.' Â Sounds good... I just need to detail the War of Woes, I guess. My thought is that someone notable died, and so Coratus was stricken by grief. Â --- Â Talking of titles: Has anyone ever gone to the trouble of giving titles to their characters? For example, Ezekiel is "Holder of the Keys" - Azrael is "Keeper of the Truth" and so on. Even titles like "Master of the Fleet", "Master of the Watch" and such. The Apocalypse rulebook mentions how the master of the Blood Angels fleet is 'Lord of the Angelic Host' and such. Â If you have, let me know. I'm looking into titles and honorifics that really suit the Castigators. All ideas welcome. Edited March 3, 2008 by Commissar Molotov Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1509781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) I like the changes Mol. ^_^ Particularly PURIFY. Â As for honorific titles, none come to mind... for now. Edited March 5, 2008 by Darth Potato Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1510709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine_Breaker Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I could help you out with the titles if I ever catch you on MSN, Mol. Not that I've ever been an expert with them, or close to it, but it seems like a fun brainstorming exercise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1510733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
krieger haggoroth Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 (edited) I've used a number of honorific titles in my chapters  Storm Falcons -Chapter Master Haytham: Commander of the Faithful -Captain Akam: Commander of the Just -al-Sahari(Chief librarian) Kallam: Commander of the Cursed -Chaplain Mada'mil: Commander of the Pure  Crimson Praetorians -Evocatti -Chapter Master Suetonii: Praetor Tyrannus -Sanguinary Priest Avarras: Guardian of the Lost  Reprisors -Facilitators of Change, Pleasure, Rage, and Rot -Chapter Master Matthias Desalo: Arch Facilitator of Chaos Ascendant -Strike-Group Captain  Usually, i just find that a title tends to be just that, it describes something that they do in a short phrase somehow. Castigators seem like they'd have titles that have to do with zealotry and the like: Commander of the Pious, Lord Purgator, etc. etc. Edited March 6, 2008 by krieger haggoroth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1511994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 I like the changes Mol. :) Particularly PURIFY. As for honorific titles, none come to mind... for now.  Yeah, the purify was (in part) for you. Figured you'd appreciate it.  I could help you out with the titles if I ever catch you on MSN, Mol. Not that I've ever been an expert with them, or close to it, but it seems like a fun brainstorming exercise.  Yeah, I'm not online all too much these days, I'm having trouble with my internet connection. I am aiming to catch you soon, though, because I've got Vocates stuff to mention to you.  I've used a number of honorific titles in my chapters Storm Falcons -Chapter Master Haytham: Commander of the Faithful -Captain Akam: Commander of the Just -al-Sahari(Chief librarian) Kallam: Commander of the Cursed -Chaplain Mada'mil: Commander of the Pure  Crimson Praetorians -Evocatti -Chapter Master Suetonii: Praetor Tyrannus -Sanguinary Priest Avarras: Guardian of the Lost  Reprisors -Facilitators of Change, Pleasure, Rage, and Rot -Chapter Master Matthias Desalo: Arch Facilitator of Chaos Ascendant -Strike-Group Captain  Usually, i just find that a title tends to be just that, it describes something that they do in a short phrase somehow. Castigators seem like they'd have titles that have to do with zealotry and the like: Commander of the Pious, Lord Purgator, etc. etc.  Isn't 'Guardian of the Lost' used in the Flesh Tearers, too? I'm pretty sure I've heard it somewhere before. Still, you have some interesting ideas, though I don't tend to go for the proliferation of pseudo-latin all over the place (it's a light-hearted argument that Aerion the Faithful and I have).  Although you seem to be mentioning special ranks in there too. I have a few of those - the Veteran Captain being called First-Captain and the Terminator Squad leaders being called Battle-Captain... but I was thinking more of ceremonial titles and the like. I'm still fiddling around with them, though you're certainly right that purity would likely figure heavily.  I'll give it some thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1512421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyoz Devastrius Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 (edited) Ok I’ve got a couple of titles for you Molotov.  Templar of the Sanctuary – this could be the title of the 2nd company captain similar to the Master of the Watch Custodian of the Chapel of Heroes – quite long but this guy could be responsible for chapters few TDA Guardian of the Crypt – responsible for the chapters funeral rites and its dreadnoughts Scourge of the Emperor – I don’t know what this guy could do but I thought it sounded cool :) Master of the Holocaust / Lord of Xenocide – Castigators hate mutants and xenos and killing millions of them (even if they would be unarmed and defenceless) would be a great honour Deacon – Castigators have much in common with catholic church so maybe this could be a title for the guy that can lead the battle brothers in prayer before the battle while there’s no chaplain present (I suppose every Castigators Captain would be a Deacon as you said they are skilled orators) Master of Flagellation – the recruitment in Castrigators is extremely tough so I suppose this could be the title of the 10th company captain similar to the Master of the Recruits Edited March 7, 2008 by Keyoz Devastrius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1512683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 8, 2008 Author Share Posted March 8, 2008 (edited) Hey, Keyoz. It's certainly good to see you around again. I am intent on using the traditional titles. So I have these to work with, taken from the third edition Codex: Space Marines:  Company I: Captain Escalus Company II: Captain Caphius, Master of the Watch Company III: Captain Sirius, Master of the Arsenal Company IV: Captain Timon, Master of the Fleet Company V: Captain Anteas, Master of the Marches Company VI: Captain Ramus Company VII: Captain Lucien, Chief Victualler Company VIII: Captain Tigris Company IX: Captain Malus Company X: Captain Venatus, Master of the Recruits  For the moment, I'm ignoring the titles of 'Magister Primus' and 'Regent of Ultramar' given to the First Company Captain of the Ultramarines.  Then there's other titles:  The Chapter Standard Bearer is known as 'Ancient'. The Chief Librarian is known as... well... 'Chief Librarian' (although he can also go by the title of 'Senior Epistolary'.) The Chief Techmarine is known as the Master of the Forge. The Chief Apothecary is known as the Chief Apothecary. (Though I'm hoping to use the term 'Apothecary Primus', just because it sounds cool.) The senior Chaplain is known as the Master of Sanctity.  I did read about the Sixth Company Captain often being the 'Master of the Rites', and I quite like the idea of having someone in charge of the various celebrations and rituals the Castigators undertake (for example, the one that happens every fourteen years.)  I also came up with two more. I was thinking that the Tenth Company Captain could be known within the Chapter as 'the Furious Angel'. This is in part a reference back to an age-old project of mine, the Angels of Fury, but more importantly to the way that the inhabitants of Losanco see the Castigators as divine angels.  I was also planning to have the First-Captain take the title 'Eternal Crusader'. The Castigators have sworn a crusade (now the longest in the Chapter's history) to hunt down the Reapers (also known as the Harvesters) for breaking the Oath sworn by the Vocates Chapters. The Eternal Crusader is charged with maintaining the Chapter's vigil against the traitors.  Interesting that you should say that the Castigators have a lot in common with the Catholic church. What makes you say that? The title of Deacon is something that's used within redemptionist cults within 40k so I'm not entirely sure about using it, but the comparison that you draw interests me. :tu: Edited March 12, 2008 by Commissar Molotov Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1513678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyoz Devastrius Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Well Castigators are burning witches, waiting for the Emperors second coming , they are puritans and zealots , their fortress monastery is called the Sanctuary and large part of it is given over to the chapels , and they see themselves as the loyalist counterpart of the Word Bearers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1513764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 Mhmm, I guess I can see some parallels, though I think that the majority of those apply more to the Ecclesiarchy and the Imperial cult in general. I think it's possible to see the Emperor as a Jesus Christ-like figure, especially in the doctrines of the Castigators, who see him as undertaking a massive sacrifice. The concept of sacrifice features heavily in their Chapter cult. Â In other news, I got bored without the internet and did this. It's hardly a Scally masterpiece, but it kept me entertained. Â http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/Castibolter.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1514154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/smbeta2.php?bpe=79000C&bpj=79000C&bp=79000C&bpc=79000C&hdt=79000C&hdm=79000C&hdl=79000C&ey=007BFF&er=79000C&pi=8A8A8A&nk=79000C&ch=79000C&eg=000000&sk=000000&abs=79000C&bt=79000C&cod=79000C&ull=79000C&lk=79000C&lll=79000C&lft=79000C&url=79000C&rk=79000C&lrl=79000C&rft=79000C&slt=000000&sli=79000C&srt=000000&sri=79000C&ula=79000C&lel=79000C&lla=79000C&lw=79000C&lh=79000C&ura=79000C&rel=79000C&rla=79000C&rw=79000C&rh=79000C&bg=FFFFFF&rb=000000&gr=8A8A8A&grid=TRUE&wg=true&hsk=true&mk6=true&cloak=fce3b8&lightshade=true&loin=fce3b8&chps=A60000&comi=FFFFFF&slips=A60000&mk6kn=true&frag=00AA00&krk=CC0000&pp=000000&pws=true&spl2=533B1C&spr2=533B1C Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1515790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) So Scally surprised me with a PM yesterday, sending me a Castigator in the new, darker red. I know to some it doesn't seem like much, but when the two are side-by-side, I think you can see that there's a considerable difference between them.  http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Vocates/castigatorsss7.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Vocates/Castigators.gif  I'm continuing ever-forward on subtle edits of the IA article, hoping to get a Castigators website of some sort up soon...   In other news, I'm detailing Castigator campaigns today; more on that later:  The Truth War The Truth War of .M37 was a time of great tragedy for the Castigators - a time that stretched the bonds of honour the Chapter enjoys with the Inquisition to breaking point. A time that saw the Castigators charged with heresy and ended with the death of the legendary Hero-Captain, Lycidius.  Inquisitor Reichenbach was an aging member of the Ordo Hereticus. His mind was said by some to be on the edge of sanity, stranding him in a state of constant paranoia. His body had been ritually purified by the Ecclesiarchy and the Inquisition; his mind had been declared untainted by the depredations of CHaos. And yet, Reichenbach was plagued by dark dreams that proclaimed the end of the Imperium was at hand--a dark time that only he could prevent.  Reichenbach arrived at the sanctuary in XXX.M37. Invoking binding pacts between the Castigators and the Inquisition, he requested that Chapter Master Orosius provide him with two squads of Marines to aid him in a mission of vital importance to the Imperium. Orosius, keen to maintain cordial relationships with the Inquisition, acquiesced. Two full squads of warriors from the honour First Company departed with Reichenbach aboard his vessel.   -----    Company I: Captain Escalus, Eternal Crusader Company II: Captain Caphius, Master of the Watch Company III: Captain Sirius, Master of the Arsenal Company IV: Captain Timon, Master of the Fleet Company V: Captain Anteas, Master of the Marches Company VI: Captain Ramus, Master of the Rites Company VII: Captain Lucien, Chief Victualler Company VIII: Captain Tigris Company IX: Captain Malus Company X: Captain Venatus, Master of the Recruits Edited March 12, 2008 by Commissar Molotov Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1515951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I much prefer, the newer darker red then the older milkier red. Â The Truth wars sound good. More to come.... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1516640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 Well, I'm ever working on these scarlet-clad zealots, and I'm interested in some brainstorming from you guys.  I've radically re-written the Combat Doctrine section, and I'd welcome input.  Today, I'm considering the Castigators' Fleet.  The Ultramarines are noted in the Third Edition Codex as having three Battle Barges and twelve Rapid Strike Cruisers. I made a conscious effort to have a smaller fleet than the Ultramarines - after all, the Castigators don't have an Ultramar to run.  So I decided on two Battle Barges and six Strike Cruisers. Up until now, the Castigators' flagship has been known as the Imperius Excelsis and at times I've refered to her counterpart as the Gladius Castigator.  I've recently been naming Strike Cruisers, and I have these five names: Thrice-Blessed Sword Sacred Endeavour Inviolate Ascendant Defiant  Now I'm not entirely sold on having ship names in High Gothic. Although I liked the idea of calling a vessel Lux Videbis or 'You will see the light' (A Broken Sword reference, to anyone who has ever played it.) With that said, I can easily use the phrase elsewhere.  So I'm looking to name a Strike Cruiser and (possibly two) Battle Barges. I quite liked the idea of naming one of the Barges Holy Enterprise as the sci-fi geek in me would exult. Plus, it fits alongside Sacred Endeavour, so...   So your input is welcome on that. Even if you were to name squadrons of the smaller escort craft.  -----------  A second (interesting) issue is the issue of heraldry and standards. Obviously the heraldry of a Captain and the heraldry of a Company Standard don't need to be the same. The Ultramarines Fourth displays the Iron Gauntlet of Captain Idaeus as an honour, and continued displaying it through the command of Uriel Ventris.  I'm working on heraldries and standards for the main Captains, with the aim of getting them drawn up. But I'd love imput from you guys.  Standards Company I: Company I: Something involving the Crux Terminatus? Company II: An Imperial Eagle tearing apart a snake. Company III: A Starburst, with an Iron Skull Company IV: The Blade of Thorns Company V: ???  Heraldries Company I: ??? Company II: ??? Company III: A Starburst Company IV: The Blade of Thorns Company V: ???  I appreciate designing heraldries is a little tough if you don't know the guys involved, but I'll put up some thoughts later today. I'd just welcome any input whatsoever.  ----  Another issue: Captain Sirius (the Master of the Arsenal) has a Power Sword that hasn't got a name. If you guys have any ideas for naming the Sword, I'd be quite grateful. Other such weapons in the Chapter include Purgator (Captain Escalus's sword), the Blade of Thorns (Captain Timon's sword) and the Sword of Sorrow (Captain Anteas's sword). Even if you wanted to come up with a name for Captain Caphius's Power Fist, it all helps add character to them.  ----  Next on my ever-present list of concerns - Chapter Master Quintilius is quite the background Character. He has a personality, as the glue that sticks the Chapter together. But you don't get to be a Chapter Master without being a decent warrior, and I'd like to give him a personality. Any ideas as to weaponry would be welcomed. Even thoughts about his armour or the like.  ----  Something else I was discussing with Barret last night was making the Librarians (or some of the more senior Librarians 'anti-psykers' in a sense. I was reading the WFB Tomb Kings book and there's a jewel that absorbs psychic energy. And the Daemonhunters have a 'null rod' (prevents psychic attacks affecting the unit) - and in the Apocalypse book there's a 'null field generator'. I was thinking that fluff-wise, aside from their boundless faith in the Emperor, the Castigators don't have much of a defence against a rogue psyker seperating them into constituent atoms*. I'm not even thinking of standard issue to all Librarians, but a couple of rare items in the Castigators' armoury that might be utilised by senior Librarians. Or perhaps this could be a piece of equipment that Chapter Master Quintilius gets to use.  Your thoughts on that are welcome, too.   *Of course, some will say that that's all the Castigators would need. So I'm a little torn.  ------  Lastly (for now), I have these icons:  http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/Castiblack1.pnghttp://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/Castiblack2.png  ...and I'm quite interested in getting the Castigators into Dawn of War but all the kerfluffle over '.tga files' and the such confuses me. Is there anyone who can help me out/enlighten me? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1517833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) So I'm looking to name a Strike Cruiser and (possibly two) Battle Barges. I quite liked the idea of naming one of the Barges Holy Enterprise as the sci-fi geek in me would exult. Plus, it fits alongside Sacred Endeavour, so... Â The Flaming Torch, the Transcendant Blade ? Â Another issue: Captain Sirius (the Master of the Arsenal) has a Power Sword that hasn't got a name. If you guys have any ideas for naming the Sword, I'd be quite grateful. Other such weapons in the Chapter include Purgator (Captain Escalus's sword), the Blade of Thorns (Captain Timon's sword) and the Sword of Sorrow (Captain Anteas's sword). Even if you wanted to come up with a name for Captain Caphius's Power Fist, it all helps add character to them. Â The Blade of Atonement? Edited March 13, 2008 by Ferrus Manus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1518142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
krieger haggoroth Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 What about smaller cruisers and the like? (such as the hunter class destroyer). Does the chapter include any? I'll be along sometime in the near future to make more in-depth comments, but with midterms and all, time is a bit of a concern for me >_> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1518168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 Ferrus: Â Flaming Torch doesn't sit with me too well. It seems like something the Redemptors would have rather than the Castigators. As to the Blade... hrm, I'm not sure. I might have to find some context. Â With regards to the Blade of Atonement - what on Earth does Sirius have to atone for? :) Barret suggested Sunbringer or Sword of the Sunbringer but I didn't really like either of them. Sirius wears the sunburst as he is Master of the Arsenal, and can bring death down upon the enemy. You have to consider the important role the sun plays in the lives of the Losancan populace - the sun is something that can bring death down upon them. Â But I'm not necessarily sure about the sword being related to that. Â I've not written anything more about Escalus's sword, Purgator, other than that it is 'mighty'. Timon's sword, the Blade of Thorns, is something altogether different. Wielded by Captain Laertes of the Fourth, who died during the Remembrance Crusade, the sword has been the weapon of every Captain since then. It's on the Fourth Company's heraldry, on their banner... every single Marine in the Fourth would gladly fight and die to recover it should it be lost. It's their symbol. Their honour. Â The Sword of Sorrow, Anteas's sword, was given to him by the Dark Claws in the aftermath of the War of War. The last Captain of the Fifth was killed during the War, and Anteas ascended to the rank. Â So I'm not sure with Sirius, whether his sword should be something newly created for him, something ancestral... it needs to be cool. Â ---- Â Krieger: The Castigators certainly would have those smaller escort squadrons. I'll have to do some reading up on them before I declare specifically, though. From what I've seen in BFG it's okay (at least for now) to give the Squadrons names. Of course, each escort would be a venerable vessel, perhaps millennia old... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1518748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyoz Devastrius Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 So I'm not sure with Sirius, whether his sword should be something newly created for him, something ancestral... it needs to be cool.  Does really have to be a sword? Maybe a Flail or Mace called simply Morning star?  Arming him with Combi-melta or combi-flamer would as work good with the deadly sun theme. Maybe don’t use a hand-to-hand weapon as his specific weapon/badge of office, but the combi-weapon instead – he is the master of the ARSENAL if I remember it right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1518789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 Sirius is actually the Captain of Darth Potato's Castigator army. I've always liked the idea of a Sword as a ceremonial 'symbol of office', but there's certainly no compulsion to use a sword. (Except Captain Timon - the fourth Captain has to use the Blade of Thorns). Â Barret was actually saying I should give Chapter Master Quintilius a 'power scourge'. The idea of a mace is perhaps a little out of the themes I'm looking to evoke, though. I do like the name 'Morningstar', though its links to Lucifer could cause problems... :) Â Sirius is indeed Captain of the Arsenal, which is why a lot of his Company have Plasma weaponry. He's also responsible for leading a number of campaings against the encroaching Tyranid hive fleets... Â The thing is you've kinda got things the wrong way round, Keyoz! I've sorted the weaponry for Sirius and I just need names, whereas the weaponry for Chapter Master Quintilius is completely up in the air. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1518796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyoz Devastrius Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Ok. Maybe for the Sirius weapon instead of the Sunbringer proposed by Barret - the Dawnbringer , Dawnblade or the Blade/Sword of the Dawn? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1518813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 Dawnblade is an awesome name, but I can't help thinking that it's the name of the sword that Commander Farsight uses. :) I'll have to check that out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1518818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyoz Devastrius Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Yes-I've just checked it. Sorry :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/9/#findComment-1518822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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