WolfScout Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 While we're all waiting for our new 'dex, you guys should try using the Chaos Marine's. I am using it as sort of a stand in like this: Wolf Lord = Chaos Lord Wolf Priest = Chaos Sorcerer Wulfen = Possessed Scouts = Chosen Grey Slayers = CSM with Mark of Khorne Blood Claws = Berserker's The obvious stuff like dreads, predators, land raiders all have their chaos equivalents anyway so no need to "replace" anything in the codexes. I know that doesn't make up for the fact that we really dont have a codex at this point, but at least allows for a more current version of rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Shame on you for using the chaos codex to use our Wolves. No Ale for you tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 for as long as he uses these rules for them imo our codex is still well alive and kicking ass, so stick with it, like a true wolf we even became a bit better in 5th edition;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThralKhan Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 So, they've released a spoiler of what's to come with the new Marine Codex... Here's my newest worry: Scouts are now WS3, BS3. I hope GW takes into consideration that SW Scouts are not inexperienced whelps and should stay BS4, WS4. Drop pods carrying 12 make for an interesting list as well...I'll enjoy filling one up with 12 BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icewolf Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Here's my newest worry: Scouts are now WS3, BS3. I hope GW takes into consideration that SW Scouts are not inexperienced whelps and should stay BS4, WS4. Wolf scouts will have to stay at WS4 and BS4 as they are not inexperienced whelps and GW would get such a fuss from all wolves out there it would not be worth it in my opinion Icewolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThralKhan Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 The only thing Wolf Scouts will "have" to do is what GW tells them to, sadly enough...and I honestly don't think GW ever gave a rat's behind what anyone fusses about. They do what they do for the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 i have to agree on both accounts. they should still be ws4, but gw doesn't really care what we think and if it changes it changes. though, i am starting to get worried about our new 'dex. i didn't think we would get it till next year, but fall next year makes me very sad. and at the same time pissed. just cause i have also heard DE, IG, and even new orks (just models) are going to be coming out next year too. if that is the case i don't think we will see them even next year. i still plan to use my SW but i feel i keep falling behind in different ways. i have won some games, i just hate trying to explain all the out-dated rules to people. i hope we get some good FAQ with the new C:SM, just to help clear some stuff up. Ullr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Well lets look at it this way, Wolf scouts are a totally different story than SM scouts. They're elites, SM scouts are troops. Ours have different wargear, and can OBEL. We don't use SM scouts entry for using OBEL Wolf Scouts, so no need to lower WS and BS and they can't do that unless it comes out in an FAQ. As for using chaos for 13th company, you could do that, but only if you want to make god cry... and by god I mean Russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 i just hate trying to explain all the out-dated rules to people. I know what you mean, a buddy of mine plays SW's and 13th Co. and some of the SW special rules are made useless, hard to play, or confusing in the context of the 4th ed and 5th ed rule books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfScout Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Well then you guys will have to forgive me for using C:CSM. I work for GW and with new players wanting to play the 'Wolves I tell them to either hit ebay or use the Chaos 'dex. They could technically use the standard 'nilla marines, but where's the fun in that? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denkal Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Isn't it okay to use a pdf, since the book is out of print? That's what I was told. Apparently, it was on some GW site for download in some language, if memory serves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfScout Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 The German site. I personally wouldn't freak out if I saw someone using a pdf, but it would be better to check with GW's legal team. I suppose that if you were at home with friends it wouldn't matter, but I wouldn't suggest taking a pdf to Gamesday or anything. I am not a copyright lawyer though so I have no idea the correct answer for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 You can also get the pdf from GW Canada. If memory serves me right you find the space wolves section on their sight and put the codex in your shopping basket (its free). When you check out it asks for your email address and then you'll receive it soon after that. You can also usually find it on ebay for between $10-20. (are you happy Max? :rolleyes: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedark Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 The PDF they send you is a poorly scanned version of their own shop copy It is the revised version though I was kindly sent it from another member of this board because I have the first printing of the book D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 is there a definite (or approximate?) date for the new wolf dex? want to know if its worth me getting my wolves now or to wait a bit until the new dex... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 is there a definite (or approximate?) date for the new wolf dex? want to know if its worth me getting my wolves now or to wait a bit until the new dex... it looks like it wont be out until next fall, unless gw is trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester262 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 yep, that's what I heard too. Looks like my boys will be shelved till the new dex comes out :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 yep, that's what I heard too. Looks like my boys will be shelved till the new dex comes out :D No reason to put them on the shelves man, they're not bad at all in 5th edition. So far I have a higher win % ratio than I did in 4th, but I also was facing more and more people that were getting attuned to the new rules which I had a few months in advance. The key is to start taking units that you might not have in 4th and add more grey hunters to it. Aka, my long fangs have seen more games, my fenrisian wolves for HQ's, and whirlwinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dietrich Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I wouldn't hang your hat on next fall. It could be end of 09, start of 10. SW need an update, but there are still some competitive builds out of it. And, we still get discounted wargear to help out. Rumor is that the new models haven't been started, which makes me think we're at least a year away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iams Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 2 models? (I was under the impression they had an entire range) On the other thread about this it said orks were getting new models AGAIN before us. They alreadly have a shiny new dex and tons of nice models. I'd still rather wait to get a really nice dex a models because they will probably not update us for at least 5-6 years though. Also I think that our new stuff is coming out soon cause CSW and SW battleforce are OOP in most places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfScout Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 The Orks were released in waves. The new models you're referring to are 2nd wave. I haven't been told what they are so no info there until it becomes public. As far as dates for the 'Wolves, it was mentioned at a games day product brief that they are "on the horizon". The good new is that the Sons of Russ will be getting some love, however the "horizon" is no where near a concrete date and probably a while out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GI Joker Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Has any one heard anything about us getting an update in White Dwarf similar to like the Blood Angels? I don't want to start unfounded rumors but I think I heard some one say that was a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThralKhan Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Yeah I heard rumors of that when the BA soft codex came out...but then, I heard rumors that all Codex Marines were going to be like that. Then I also heard that the Space Wolf codex was supposed to be during this time frame and you see how that's going. I guess when something comes out in White Dwarf then we'll know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanaellars Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 the idea of a WD codex was scrapped because SO many people complained about the first one. I wouldnt have minded, something is something, but it seems a majority didnt want WD codexes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThralKhan Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I'm surprised. For the cost of the new Blood Angel codex (nothing except ink and paper for the printer) I'm surprised people weren't happy. It's not the high quality $22 Codex filled with fluff, but I enjoyed just having to print the latest edition when 5ed FAQ came out. I have mine in a binder and if it gets lost or wrecked, then I print off another copy. I can also rearrange the pages the way I want for ease of reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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