Brother Gothard Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Great work, very inspirational. Just a comment, however. Many people have mentioned the gaps in the legs are visible, ruin the otherwise great effect, etc. I was thinking about how you could fix that, and remembered what Sinear taught us about bulking up terminators: use plasticard! This will a) allow you to have all your marines be exactly the same increased height, and ^_^ allow you to acheive the effect without having to smooth out GS to look like armour - something which we can all agree is tough to do, and takes time even for GS veterans. Just be a bit more careful with your cuts (make sure to have them straight and level) and insert a small square of plasticard. When the glue dries, shave/file/cut it down and smooth it out. Just a thought. I'll probably end up doing this with my next army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Artimum Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Doghouse you work seems to keep getting better well done. It even adds more as World Eaters are my favorite Legion ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 If you use milliput or another "hard" putty you can get a smooth and properly keyed finish on the legs rather than using greenstuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Q- Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Let your Greenstuff cure for a full 24+ hours without touching it and you can file it smooth. I have no problems with that once it's fully set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 Thanks guys, I'll bare those tips in mind later in construction. ;) Ok, just a few updates. Captain http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip15.jpg Prototype with 2nd ed bolter http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip16.jpg Tactical Marine with 1st ed Missile Launcher http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip19.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip17.jpg Running Marine and bare headed Marine http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip18.jpg Millest: The Captain's torso is the vet sergeant Red Scorpiond special character toro with the eagle shaved off. The torsos do have the scorpion but you can easily remove them or cover them with GS. :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Artimum Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 :drool: that legion bage is amazing :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major smith Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 i love these, i have some of my own in mk4 armour, never got round to finishing them off, i love the greenstuff chapter emblem, seriously nice marines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 Thanks guys! :unsure: Just a quick update. I've started basecoating Captain Varren now. I think that I need to go back and clean him up in few places before I get in too deep with the paint job though. The legion emblem on his chest needs evening out on the lower jaw as I'm really not happy with that. I'm not too worried about getting the GS filler one hundred percent smooth though as I intend to have their armour worn and weathered in places. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip21.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainTaco Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Those look wonderful, W.E. are one of my favorite pre-heresy legions. Awesome conversions, especially on the captain. My one suggestion is that you shave off the shoulder pad rims. I think that might make them look more like they're wearing an older style of armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loads Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 You are a Brave man for painting an entire model white over a black undercoat, looks good so far though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 MK4 armour had full shoulderpads with rims, it was only during the Heresy and post-heresy with materials shortages taht the pads we see as "Heresy" pads were developed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Haggis Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I'm not too worried about getting the GS filler one hundred percent smooth though as I intend to have their armour worn and weathered in places. Battle damage!!! its how i cover up any muck ups i make when converting.... not that yours are mucked up at all they look amazing. im tempted to do some myself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Very nice Heresy Era conversions. I'll definitley save this page as inspiration for my 13th Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlteriusMotive Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 nice work, although you need to make the white coats alot thinner, try white primer, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead marine Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 :D You... Are sick! :D Theyre damn awesome. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainTaco Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 MK4 armour had full shoulderpads with rims, it was only during the Heresy and post-heresy with materials shortages taht the pads we see as "Heresy" pads were developed I stand corrected. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip21.jpg Is it just me or does this guy look alot like Lance Henrikson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 Cheers guys! :) Just a quick update... I've built up the white on the Captain but unfortunately this picture doesn't really capture the subtle highlighting very well and the white overload makes him look like he's got a dodgey fake tan. :ph34r: I have to go back and darken the recesses in the armour with a shadow grey mix and use some black washs to seperate the plates of the armour. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip23.jpg Just to demonstrate where I'm going with this army below is a comparrison with one of my contemporary Dark Angels I'm working on. The Heresy era stuff in my mind was at a golden age for the Imperium, a personal theory that has been re-affirmed by the new Horus Heresy novels. The way I've always pictured the Astartes is that over time they have become more superstitious and ritualised as the millenia have passed. Although todays Astarte believes that his armour/weapons have a spirit or have some sort of faith their ancestors were more soldier like, weapons and armour were just tools of the trade. Here's an example of what I mean, the World Eater armour is functional and other than the purity seal on the model (forgot to take it off...think of it as a warrior's oath :) ) the armour is fairly uniform. The Dark Angel however is extremely gothic looking, his armour is individualised and possibly unique amongst his brothers. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip22.jpg Mutt: I never noticed that, but now that you mention it... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artimis Vergadin Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Hey those look great! Where'd you get tht bare head from on your WE bare head marine?!? That's bloody awesome! Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammekkos Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 tbh Doghouse, given your modelling skillz, I am astounded that you can live with those shoddy leg joins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 Artimis Vergadin: Thanks mate, the head is from the Cadian Sergeant. :) Dammekkos: They don't look too bad in person, I think the camera seems to amplify the faults. But I'm not really going for GD standards here as they're just a gaming army so I'm not too worried about the final look. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artimis Vergadin Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip18.jpg That's a cadian head? :) Woulda never guessed! Artimis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 11, 2006 Author Share Posted June 11, 2006 Oh that head, that one is from the Catachan jungle fighters heavy weapons team. I just shaved the bandanna off. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 11, 2006 Author Share Posted June 11, 2006 Quick update... http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/wip24.jpg I've decided that rather than go with my usual Predator/Landraider/Dreadnaughts for heavy support I'd try something different and go with a Devastator squad. It's completely out of character for me to field a unit like this and hopefully it'll add an extra dimension to my games forcing me to change tactics. He's still really, really rough at the moment but I'll clean up the legs and stuff later. Keeping with the theme of first/second ed equipment I've dug out some really old first ed Imperial Guard lascannons for these guys inspired by one of the pictures in the Hersey artwork book of some Emperor's Children with them. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnum_opera Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Hmm... the old weapons just look so out of place - mediocre sculpts, and then the excellent Marine models. You might be better off converting current weapons to look like the Heresy ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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