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Putting together a 3k list to take advantage of the bonus VP from both Moebius and Leviathal. I'd have loved to get a tank or two in, but dreads > tanks this edition, and with leviathal they have to be off-board (which isn't bad, but not for this list. The usual alpha sneakiness, with some grav thrown in for movement blocking the opponent. The BA are there to charge in and die, hopefully applying pressure, the headhunters go after the warlord T1, or try to slag the transport they're in then die heroically. The librarian goes with the Fulmentarus to make them a frightening unit, that will return fire and pin you, probably. Vigilator roams with the seekers trying to hunt characters and pin things, the delegatus either goes with the lascannons or the recons. Basic troops including the fast assault squad that will try and hide, then score late game. The speeder is there to unlock the second heavy slot, but I could drop this and the levi for another contemptor + 2 more rapiers, or other stuff? Is the dilution of the army with BA worth the potential extra/near guaranteed VP? +++ HH AL 3k ((HH V2) Horus Heresy (2022)) [2,985Pts] +++ ++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - XX: Alpha Legion) [2,690Pts] ++ Allegiance: Loyalist + Rite of War: + Rite of War: Headhunter Leviathal (AL) + HQ: + Centurion [100Pts] . Vigilator: Artificer Armour, Power Dagger . . Bolt Pistol . . Chainsword: Chainsword . Vigilator: Infilitrate Centurion [110Pts]: The Mobius Configuration (Loyalist Only), Warlord . Delegatus: Artificer Armour, Nemesis Bolter, Pair of Lightning Claws . Delegatus Centurion, Cataphractii [130Pts]: Librarian, Psychic Discipline: Telepathy . Librarian: Cataphractii Terminator Armour . . Force Weapon: Force Axe . . Power Weapon: Power Maul + Elites: + Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [195Pts] . Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Melta Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Graviton Gun Effrit Disruption Cadre [275Pts]: Power Dagger . 1) Effrit Principal: Banestrike Shotgun . 9x Effrit Disruptors w/ Banestrike Shotgun: 9x Banestrike Shotgun Fulmentarus Terminator Squad [320Pts] . Fulmentarus Decurion: Chainfist . 4x Fulmentarus Terminator w/Power Fist: 4x Combi-Bolter, 4x Power Fist Rapier Battery [60Pts]: Graviton Cannon . Rapier Battery + Troops: + Assault Squad [180Pts] . Legion Assault Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist . 7x Legionaries (collective): 7x Bolt Pistol, 7x Chainsword . 2x Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe Reconnaissance Squad [145Pts] . Legion Recon Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter . Recon Legionary: Augury Scanner, Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter . 3x Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter Tactical Squad [125Pts] . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Dagger . 8x Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Bolter . Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Legion Vexilla + Fast Attack: + Headhunter Kill Team [205Pts] . Headhunter Prime: Bolt Pistol, Magna Combi-Weapon - Meltagun, Power Armour . 3x Headhunter w/Combi-weapon: Magna Combi-Weapon - Meltagun . Headhunter w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-Melta . Rhino Transport: Searchlights Proteus Land Speeder Squadron [75Pts] . Proteus Land Speeder: Bolt Pistol, Volkite Culverin, Volkite Culverin Seeker Squad [195Pts] . Legion Seeker Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Kraken Bolter, Power Dagger . 9x Legion Seeker: Bolt Pistol, Kraken Bolter + Heavy Support: + Heavy Support Squad [260Pts]: Lascannon . Legion Support Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour . 7x Legionaries (collective): 6x Bolt Pistol . Legionary w/ Options: Augury Scanner, Bolt Pistol Leviathan Dreadnought Talon [315Pts] . Leviathan: Leviathan Siege Claw, Leviathan Storm Cannon, Phosphex Discharger . . 2x Twin-linked Volkite Calivers ++ Allied Detachment (LA - IX: Blood Angels) [295Pts] ++ + HQ: + Centurion [115Pts] . Champion: Artificer Armour, Warhawk Jump Pack . . Bolt Pistol . . Chainsword: Chainsword . Champion + Troops: + Assault Squad [180Pts] . Legion Assault Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist . 7x Legionaries (collective): 7x Bolt Pistol, 7x Chainsword . Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe . Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe
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Every day unveils a new boon for the dark angels - an apoc game last night, my opponents used some DWC's - as Alpha Legion, I have a lot of character assassination shenanigans, and the DWC rules allow you to ignore precision shots, strikes and the sniper rule. With 3 of the group playing DA's I need a work around - is there any way to get around it, or is the only way to kill all the companions? They can also take wargear to get an outrageous 4++ against shooting (10pts/model, I think a refractor field is 15pts for a 5++?). My first thought was lots of High S firepower - maybe a conversion beamer from 42+"away, maybe lots of breaching plasma, but then the 4++ comes into it. Is there a decent way to kill these guys to get at the juicy HQ choice, or is it best just to ignore them?
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++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3,000pts] ++ + HQ + Armillus Dynat [200pts] Primus Medicae [135pts]: Combi-Bolter with only Banestrike Rounds, On Foot . Consul . . Primus Medicae . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Tartaros Pattern Terminator Armour: Terminator Armour + Elites + Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion [225pts] . Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Graviton Cannon . Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Graviton Cannon . Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Graviton Cannon The Rewards of Treason [790pts] . Sekhmet Terminator Cabal . . Sekhmet Inceptor: Force Sword . . . Combi-Bolter . . Sekhmet Terminator: Chainfist . . . Combi-Bolter . . Sekhmet Terminator: Chainfist . . . Combi-Bolter . . Sekhmet Terminator: Force Sword . . . Combi-Bolter . . Sekhmet Terminator: Force Sword . . . Combi-Bolter . . Sekhmet Terminator: Force Sword . . . Combi-Bolter . . Sekhmet Terminator: Force Sword . . . Combi-Bolter . . Sekhmet Terminator: Force Sword . . . Combi-Bolter . . Sekhmet Terminator: Force Sword . . . Combi-Bolter . . Spartan Assault Tank, Legion: Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Flare Shield, Quad Lascannon Sponsons x2, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter . . Tartaros Pattern Terminator Armour + Troops + Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [220pts]: Bolters, 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Nuncio-vox . Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion . Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolter, Power Dagger, Power Fist Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [200pts]: Bolters, 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: Nuncio-vox . Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion . Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Power Dagger, Power Fist Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [200pts]: Bolters, 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: Nuncio-vox . Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion . Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Power Dagger, Power Fist + Heavy Support + Deredeo Pattern Dreadnought [240pts]: Aiolos Missile Launcher, Armoured Ceramite, Twin-linked Anvilius Pattern Autocannon Battery, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter Sicaran Arcus Strike Tank [260pts]: Armoured Ceramite . Twin Arcus launcher: Pyrax Warheads, Skyspear Warheads Whirlwind Scorpius, Legion [115pts]: Scorpius Multi-Launcher + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance: Traitor . XX: Alpha Legion: Rite of War: The Coils of the Hydra + Lords of War + Alpharius [415pts] + Use Playtest Rules + Use Playtest Rules: Playtest Rules Off ++ Total: [3,000pts] ++
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--- HQ --- Legion Consul Champion Cataphractii, para.blade, power dagger, v.charger --- Troops --- 15x Ass. squad, A.armour, p.dagger, p.fist, 3x p.axes 15x Ass. squad, A.armour, p.dagger, p.fist, 3x p.axes 7x Tac. support squad, plasma guns --- Elites --- 2x apothecaries, 2x jump packs --- Fast Attack --- 2x Javelins, TL-CML, multimelta 6x Scimitar sky hunter squadron, 2x volkite culverins Obviously both medics goes in an assault squad each. The idea is to have the champion footslog with the plasma support, as a "charge deterrent". The javelins to take out havy infantry and/or walkers, the Scimitars to keep distance to enemy units and pound power armour infantry from distance with the heavy bolters and 2x volkite culverins. Plasma support with the champ will be most useful if I choose infiltration as mutable tactics. Which is good if I don't face WE, EC or SW, then I should consider choosing counter charge instead. The 30k community is relatively uncompetetive compared to 40k so I'm trying to not be too competetive and therefore omitting shatter shell mortars, Leviathans, and dual kheres contemptors. What do you guys think of this list? Any apparent weaknesses?
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Hello everyone. Here are my primaris legionnaires. I'm beeing often asked "Why are you painting you primaris as Alpha legion, that is bad lorewise,stupid and blablabla" Firstly i have a big 30k alpha legion army (you can check it here) and i want to play them in 8 edition. But as they do not look as a chaos legion at all (like really - not a single tentacle ot horn in the whole army) and i do not want to buy those chaos units like cultist or daemons, i decided to play them as space marines using Reven guard trait Secondly, if i paint them as, say carcharodons, it would be super weird to see space sharks guys desembarking from a thunderhawk in Alpha legion colors. I basically will not be able to play some of my heresy-era units. Thirdly, i really like primaris models (apart from supressors - those guys are weird) So i decided to make my version of loyal alpha legion (duh) who stole primaris technology (or were given it by someone - you choose) Here are my primaris And some wips
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So what apparent weaknesses do you guys see with the list below? RoW = CotH As mutable tactics I probably take either tank hunters or counter charge depending on the opponent list. Since everything is either deepstriking, outflanking or have transport, I don't have to take infiltration to get the CotH. --- HQ --- Dynat --- Troops --- 15x Assault squad, melta bombs, powerfist, art.armour, power dagger, 3x power weapons 15x Assault squad, melta bombs, powerfist, art.armour, power dagger, 3x power weapons 10x Tactical squad, Rhino with multimelta 10x Tactical support squad, 10x plasma guns --- Elites --- 3x Apothecaries, 1x art.armour, 2x jump packs 8x Suzerains, 2x thunderhammer --- FA --- Anvillus dreadclaw 3x Javelins, multimelta, TL Cyclone launchers, 2x HKMs each 6x Skyhunters jetbikes, Sgt, 2x Culverins --- HS --- Sicaran Arcus, dozer blade, skyspear Fire raptor, TL autocannons, arm.ceramite, Hellstrike missiles Dynat and the apothecary with artifical armour goes with the Suzerains in the Anvillus. Dynat deepstrikes the plasma squad. The two other apothecaries with jump-packs join an assault squad each. The Javelins outflank and unload their S8 shots in the side armour of any enemy vehicles in the deployment zone (and enjoys the +1 on the damage table thanks to Dynat). In case the opponent is AV14 heavy, then the assault squads are tasked with meltabombing the tanks. Fire raptor and the Sicaran Arcus are my anti-air. So what do you guys think? What are the weaknesses? Cheers, Imren
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a thread for using the alpha legion rules from the horus heresy, but playing against 40k and 30k. i'll kick it off with what i believe was my post in the other thread: keep in mind, im thinking for playing against all armies, not just HH legions. for units to steal with the AL rite, i like the idea of using iron havocs. give them autocannon, and 2 or 3 missile launchers, and they can do a good bit damage to nearly any type of unit. the only thing theyd really struggle to hurt is AV14, because of the missiles still needing 6s just to glance. one strategy im looking to try is having a full 20-man tactical squad with extra CCW. put a vigilator and master of signal in the squad. take the infiltrate special rule for the whole army. infiltrate the squad as close to its target as possible (probably only 18 inches), then use the scout move from the vigilator to move closer still. first turn, fury of the legion. second turn, you can probably get a charge off at something if theyre still on the table. putting alpharius in this unit will just make it hurt that much more when they hit home.
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This Plog is to motivate me to build and paint numerous models I have in my collection. Firstly, why now? Well for me the hobby started when I got copies of ‘Space Marine’, ‘Codex Titanicus’ and a couple of sets of ‘Battle Titans’ 25+ years ago. How I loved the setting and narrative, brother against brother (and purging the filthy Xeno). The second edition rules built on this, even if the fluff moved to 40K and the titan creation rules dumbed it down a bit. I hated the third edition rules. All the time I played Epic, I wished for Horus Heresy in 32mm. A few years ago, the Librarians at Forge World heard my suffering and released the Horus Heresy books and models. Admittedly I think it lost something on the reboot, but I still said “yes please”, flung too much money at my computer screen, and bought a large selection of infantry. Then kids and work then got in the way, so they have lived in my loft for the last couple of years. With the release of the Warlord Titan my interest is back and I have embarked on this, a very ambitious project, to build several legion forces and supporting arms of Imperial and Traitor forces. The list below is all the models I have at my disposal for the project so far: House Makabius Traitor Knight household indentured to the Death Guard, consist of: - Knight Acheron - Knight lancer - Knight Paladin - Knight Paladin - Knight Errant - Knight Crusader - Knight Prophyrion Legion I – Space Wolves This will be made from a mix of mkiii and mkIV plastic infantry. If and when mkII come out, these will be added then. - Russ - Preator - Legion Tactical Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 19 Tactical Marines) - Legion Tactical Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 19 Tactical Marines) - Breacher Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 7 Breachers with bolters, 2 Breachers with melta guns) - Legion Tactical Support Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 9 marines with melta guns) - Legion Tactical Support Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-plasma, 9 marines with plasma guns) - Contemptor talon (1 Contemptor with Melta and fist, 2 Contemptors with assault cannon and fist) - Cataphractii Terminator Squad (1 Sergeant with Power sword and combi-bolter, 9 marines weapon fits to be decided) - Legion Heavy Support Squad (1 Sergeant with missile launcher, 4 Marines with missile launchers) - Three drop pods. Legion XIV - Death Guard These are my main legion. This is a mainly resin force and has first dibs on the best toys that Forge World and Games Workshop release. While my favourite, these will be worked on in parallel to the other forces as I want to get them right. The Marines are mostly MKIII, with MKII and a few MKIVs included. I will get a resin Death Guard Contemptor in due course. · Preator · Chaplian · Legion Tactical Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 19 Tactical Marines) · Legion Tactical Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 19 Tactical Marines) · Breacher Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 7 Breachers with bolters, 2 Breachers with melta guns) · Legion Tactical Support Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 9 marines with melta guns) · Legion Tactical Support Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-flamer, 9 marines with flamers) · Legion Tactical Support Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-plasma, 9 marines with volkite Chargers) · Legion Heavy Support Squad (1 Sergeant with missile launcher, 4 Marines with missile launchers) · Legion Heavy Support Squad (1 Sergeant with auto-cannon, 9 Marines with auto-cannons) · Cataphractii Terminator Squad (1 Sergeant with Power sword and combi-bolter, 9 marines weapon fits to be decided) · Contemptor talon (1 Contemptor with Melta and fist, 1 Contemptor with assault cannon and fist) · Rapier battery (3 Rapier platforms with laser destroyers) · Leviathan talon (1 Leviathan with dual claws, 1 Leviathan with claw and drill) · Vindicator · Typhon · Avenger Legion XX – Alpha Legion This is just for kicks. I love the blue/green colour scheme for this legion. This will be mainly plastics with a few bits of resin thrown in. I’m not planning to give these terminators as yet. I will get a resin Alpha Legion Contemptor in due course but at the moment I can’t see this ever approaching the size of my other legion forces, but you never know until paint hits. · Legion Tactical Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 19 Tactical Marines) · Legion Tactical Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 19 Tactical Marines) - 10 Marine Breacher Squad with Phobos Pattern Landraider. · Legion Tactical Support Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-melta, 4 marines with melta guns) · Legion Tactical Support Squad (1 Sergeant with Combi-plasma, 4 marines with plasma guns) - 10 marine Legion Tactical Support Squad with Volkites - Contemptor talon (1 Contemptor with assault Cannon) - Legion Heavy Support Squad (1 Sergeant with missile launcher, 4 Marines with missile launchers) - Legion Heavy Support Squad with 5 marines with volkite culverins - Legion Heavy Support Squad with 5 marines with Autocannons Legio Tempestus Members of the Triad Ferrum of Mars. They are one of the three original Titan Legions. · Reaver Titan with Power fist, triple barrelled laser destructor, and apocalypse launcher · Warlord Titan with two bellicose volcano cannons and two triple barrelled laser destructors. Legio Gryphonicus My original Titan legion consisting of a single Lucius Pattern Warhound. This will not be expanded for the foreseeable future. Legio Mortis Warlord Titan Adeptus Mechanicus Infantry support for Legio Tempestus which will be clad in the red livery of Mars. - 2 x 10 man Skitarii Vanguard squad - 1 x 10 man Skitarii rangers squad - 2 x dune crawlers - Tech preist - Castellan Maniple (2 robots and a tech priest handler) - Magos Dominus - 3 x Castellax battle automata - 3 x Thallax - 10 tech Thralls with Las-locks - Krios - Triaros - Ordinatus Ulator House Terryn My first four stock knights are being painted as house Terryn. · Knight Paladin · Knight Errant · Knight (variable load out) · Knight (variable load out) Note: This thread will be mainly about the Heresy, but I will shoe horn in my other imperial forces (40K Space Marines and Imperial Guard) from time to time.
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I'm putting together a 1500p AL list for Centurion play mode (No vehicles except walkers and bikes/speeders and pods). The warmonger and medic goes with the plasma squad and therefore gains deep strike. I could legally run CotH if I wanted without being forced to choose infiltration, but I see no point since I have neither Dynat or other legion's special units included. I think I'll go with a generic RoW or none. I'm looking for a list were most units can deal with Dreadnoughts and TEQs and pick their close combats (get the charge) by being quite mobile. I have the flexibility to choose what starts on the table. There could be advantages and disadvantages to having units deep striking or outflanking from case to case. I guess I'll decide just before the game depending on how terrain and opponent list look like (yes, very AL!). --- HQ --- Warmonger, A.armour, P.fist, P.dagger 130p --- Troops --- 13x Ass.sq, A.armour, P.fist, P.dagger, 2x P.Axe. 264p 13x Ass.sq, A.armour, P.fist, P.dagger, 2x P.Axe. 264p 10x plasma support sq. 235p --- Elites --- Apothecary, A.armour, P.fist, P.dagger 60p --- FA --- 3x Javelins, 3x TLML, 3x MM 195p 6x Jetbike Skyhunter squadron, 2x V.culverin 260p I'm planning to take this list to rather narrative events, however, I'd like to win but not at all (social) costs. I'm a bit worried that warmonger and 10x plasma support with apothecary is a bit too unfriendly. Would you consider that unit setup too overpowered? I thinking that the plasma squad with warmonger could be a distraction Carnifex while the rest of the list buzz around the battlefield and pick objectives with their rather good mobility. What are your thoughts on the list overall? A'm I being too unfriendly with warmonger and plasma squad?
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