Empty Bolter Clip Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hopefully, since Dark Heresy seems to be doing well enough, enough has several expansion books out for it, GW will not drop the Inquisition presence on the table completely. **This is just my speculation, so take it for what it is worth** I still highly doubt that would happen, they are pretty ingrained into this setting to just be erased. (Again, thinking of a combined dex here) I see them scaling back on the Inquisition with by having only 1 or 2 entries, HQ/Elite as normal, but having them be generic and leaving it up to the player gear choices and/or personal fluff to say this a WH Inquisitor or DH Inquisitor. In all honesty, when they said they wanted to "scale back the emphasis on the Inquisitor" they could simply be making them a lot more simple to use (gear selection wise) and to not have so much of the fluff in the books dedicated to something that truly only has 1 or 2 entries in the book. I could also see them doing away with the "an Inquisitor must be present to take unit X - A - or Y rule... which in turn, would simplify things up a bit. **On a side note: Has anyone added up the content (fluff wise) of the actual inquisitor stuff vs GK stuff in the DH book? Just to see if my above statement would even be a valid option for the way in which GW will "put less of an emphasis on Inquisitors". Also is there any other army that states "You must take unit X in your army if you want to use unit Y", I know of where taking units alter other unit restrictions (i.e. Techmarines turning dreads to elite/heavy) but not of a flat requirement like our books... just a thought. **Again, this is just my speculation, so take it for what it is worth** Empty Bolter Clip Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2253356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilgar Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Well I´d say that the GK are far more central in the codex then the inquisitor side, which imo is only there to "strenghten" the GK base the army is built around. There being fluff for most GK reasons to exist, there is special rules only for the GK etc, no special rules for IQ´s etc. IF a new codex for DH comes out, I´m betting that the IQ bit will still me marginal, albeit necessary to keep the connection to the Malleus. The GK are simply to awesome to become some damn special elite choice which u only can field a few of :lol: . Edit:Spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2253479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Thane Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Well I´d say that the GK are far more central in the codex then the inquisitor side, which imo is only there to "strenghten" the GK base the army is built around. There being fluff for most GK reasons to exist, there is special rules only for the GK etc, no special rules for IQ´s etc. IF a new codex for DH comes out, I´m betting that the IQ bit will still me marginal, albeit necessary to keep the connection to the Malleus. The GK are simply to awesome to become some damn special elite choice which u only can field a few of :P . Edit:Spelling Not to mention it would piss me and many GK's of to no end after having to invest massively in an all metal army already... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2254456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I reckon GW should do an inquisition codex and from this codex you can do witchhunters, daemonhunters, alienhunters. You can also do pure grey knight, deathwatch and sister of battle armies. There should be plastic GK, plastic deathwatch and plastic sisters of battle (I want the plastic SOB now! aaargh! that would be so cool...) Just my thoughts on this...If anyone finds out about plastic SOB let me know immediately!:tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2256409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindaris Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 To be fair there is already a Deathwatch conversion kit and generic plastic shoulderpads for PA and TDA (though being able to get them in bulk would be nice... the TDA ones are a pain to get ahold of). They really wouldn't need to do alot to make them their own viable force. Maybe a custom heavy bolter (ala old killteam rules), some unique armor upgrades and the like. I'm really hoping its a combined codex because it'd be nice to finally have one (even if it ended up being a pdf file like the blood angels got). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2256417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adir Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I just noticed that DH/WH codices have been removed from the US GW site. They've been off the UK site for a week and it seems that was not a mistake. As to the question of INQ vs GK/SoB I would like to see continued support for a strictly INQ list as that retains some of the last vestiges of roleplaying within the 40k tabletop game milieu. Having said that, I would lay strong odds on losing the current INQ flavor for some stripped down HQ choice that might unlock certain options in the broader list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2256568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I beg the Emperor to not let the PEs, repentias and arcos go away. Just make them playable. I love my freak show circus :mellow: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2257532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Definitely. I've got 3 PE, 6 Arcos, 6 Death-cult assassins as well as repentias. All are painted, based to good standards and I'd hate not to use them anymore. Well... not that I use them that much right now... but you know... I still think they should do a combined dex with HQs unlocking units. with 2 HQs, you could get either DH/WH, DH/=I= or WH/=I= units. A big dex could contain all that. The Nids dex has 28 (IIRC) entries, not counting the subcategories like Warriors, warrior prime and shrike. So they could easily make a codex with 7-8 units for each branch and 4-6 "common units (transports, mainly). Still, I guess we won't have a lot of rumors to feed the thread in the next 6-8 months as I can't see the codex coming out before beginning of 2011... Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2258508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilgar Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 It´s jus that a combined dex could mean that if I i.e. only have GKs and about 2,5k of em suddely only could use a fraction of em because I have to use some SoB or other...no thanks. Keep things seperate that "should be" seperate! I say this because a combined dex in GW terms usually means u have to buy new models, and conveniently merging both WH and DH would surtenly make up for a juicy chance of forcing players to buy either one (of which u don´t atm have). Besides, the allies rules are for combining stuff, if u really want to that is. So there is no need to make a combined dex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2258680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 A lot of speculation is that GW is trying to remove anything where you can get lots of stuff allied in and have a few races at once. Inquisition sounds better than say witch hunter units allied with space wolves (I think they hate eachother because of somthing in one of the wars for Amrageddon). They stopped beats, daemons and warriors of chaos allying in WFB, Daemons and Chaos marines are likely to be divorced soon due to daemons having their own codex. So there is a reason to have a combined dex. For some it sucks (I had one unit of screamers that I can't use anymore in WFB). Sure some salamanders players with SoB will be annoyed but it's a combined dex or no more radical players and GW wouldn't wipe some peoples armies almost completely. All this is if allying gets wiped out, which in my oppinion it will. Just my 2 cents :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2258735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 On the other side, GW won't release a codex with few units. Let's be realistic, GW can't go from a 4-5 unit codex(GK HQ, PAGK/FAGK, GK dread, LR/LRC to a 20-25 units codex while re-doing PAGK/TAGK in plastic. And *if* they did that, they would either add lots of units from ther SM dex (thus bastardizing the GKs) or add lots of new GK units. Either option will render current armies obsolete. Yet, like IG players, you'll still be able to incorporate most (even all) of your current minis in the future dex, no matter what. A combined dex wouldn't be better or worse for current mini owners that it was for Nids owners. They can still build a similar-costed force with their current minis, it's just not a very good army. GW is in the business of selling models and no matter what happens, you'll have to buy a load of new stuff to properly use what you have now. Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2258768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredegar Kadere Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I noticed that yesterday morning Games Workshop had added the 10 (wo)man Battle Sister Squad back on the US website. The codex on the master list is still MIA, but selectable off of other items. The slim hope for plastic sisters has been set back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2259034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolita23q Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I noticed that yesterday morning Games Workshop had added the 10 (wo)man Battle Sister Squad back on the US website. The codex on the master list is still MIA, but selectable off of other items. The slim hope for plastic sisters has been set back. No still gone :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2259844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I just noticed that DH/WH codices have been removed from the US GW site. They've been off the UK site for a week and it seems that was not a mistake. As to the question of INQ vs GK/SoB I would like to see continued support for a strictly INQ list as that retains some of the last vestiges of roleplaying within the 40k tabletop game milieu. Having said that, I would lay strong odds on losing the current INQ flavor for some stripped down HQ choice that might unlock certain options in the broader list. They are off the Canadian site too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2260171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 WOW.... MANY MANY apologies, i thought it was on another thread.... Edited and removed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2260461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What happened there? seems irelevant to the thread Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2260691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I want plastic sob and gk...come on gw! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2260789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Keep your filthy plastic away from my GKTs! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2261019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I agree that allying is going to be removed, in my local game group it's outright banned, even in tournaments, due to abuse (mystics + deathstrike, etc.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2261419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Give me Plastic Sisters GW and I will buy my whole order's worth of them. 500 sisters! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2261434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorgarXVII17 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I just cant wait until those 2 massive updates ive been hearing about lately. Dark Eldar and Necrons. Ive been waiting for those 2 to get updated for years. I cant wait to see all the new models and rules for them. Maybe ill finally see a Dark Eldar army at a tournament! Or, GW could push back those 2 to make room for the Blood Angels. What do you say we let those poor xenos have their update? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2261465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Validar Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 not the best place to ask such a question. Xenos love *loads boltgun* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2261567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Thane Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 According to the storeowner, my next order of GK's will be the last. SoB's, GK's etc are all 'order online'. Which is pretty annoying... -__-; Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2261602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I just had an online order split that contained a PAGK w/Psycannon because "supplier could not fill part of order". I am guessing the retailer couldn't get the PAGK from GW. I am so heading to the GW stores around town tomorrow to buy up a few straggling bits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2261663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredWing Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 The in store stock is dwindling here. I had a comical 'chat' with one of the newer staffers in GW not so long ago. When I told him I bought most of my force off ebay because GW didn't have the stock (in this case meltagun/heavy flamer SoB) on the shelves he proudly announced that he'd only checked that morning and there was a fine selection of spec weapon SoB available for purchase. That being I laughed at him then took him over to the section (when I say section I may be a little generous... about half a dozen blisters on the wall) and asked him where they were because I wanted to buy them! From what is available you couldn't put a squad together. The blisters consist of a couple of canoness', a couple of SoB blisters and the rest are assassins, repentia and other units you wouldn't put on the table on a regular basis. My hope would be a big relaunch of the =][= forces but it's not coming yet or at least not for SoB on a big scale (no plastics in the pipeline yet). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188500-i-coming-in-2010/page/8/#findComment-2261990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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