Joasht Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 I was too thinking of an Interceptor spam somewhat similar-ish to what Marmande suggested, as I was talking about in the thread about them that I made two days ago. Theres a ton of flexibility with that squad, but the only thing thats toying on my mind is their considerably massive pricetag. Whether or not they will be worth all those points requires playtesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2694565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Yeah......no. Learn to take a joke. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2694657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagman Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 hahaha, I think that's pretty awesome, actually, Marmande. I don't know the point costs well enough to manage it, but I'd go for something silly like this: HQ: Draigo HQ: Grand Master 10x Paladins 10x Paladins 10x Paladins Storm Raven Storm Raven Storm Raven. Combat squad the pallies, put the HQs in with two of them and then into the storm ravens. The squad with all the guns walks forward midfield, while the rest charge up in storm-ravens. Hammer and Anvil. Maybe squeeze a Vindicare in there for extra flexibility. Silly List Is Silly Do you realize that this list will be over 3000pts?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2694727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Don't you mean OVER 9000 in POWER? It ain't over 3000 but it is over 2500. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2694779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagman Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Don't you mean OVER 9000 in POWER? It ain't over 3000 but it is over 2500. Its 2715 without a single upgrade. He talks about combat squadding and leaving the guys with the guns, I'm assuming psycannons, on the field. Now that list totals 2955 without any CC upgrades, and a naked Grand Master and base Storm Ravens. And he wants to "sqeeze in" a Vindicare... As I said, over 3000pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2694782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Oh you counted the Vinidcare. I didn't. Math is power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2694787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Something like: Coteaz Inquisitor, psycannon 10 Purifiers, 4 psycannon 10 Purifiers, 4 psycannon Vindicare 8 Acolytes, 3 melta, Jokaero, Rhino 9 Acolytes, 3 melta, Jokaero, Rhino 3 servitors, 3 plasma cannon, 3 acolytes, 3 plasma guns, 2 Jokaero, Chimera Stormraven Stormraven Psyfleman Dread Psyfleman Dread Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimz Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I'll just post this here.. don't think it's been mentioned. Over on Kirby's blog (http://kirbysblog-ic.blogspot.com/), they mentioned that you can put your Termies/Libby's/GKGM into Chimera's. This is a great way to get a cheap transport for your TDA units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Unless you want to take Coteaz, your limited at a maximum of 2 Chimera's, and that's using both HQ slots for Inquisitors. If only we had more access to Chimera's, they would be a little more useful for Termies. :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I'll just post this here.. don't think it's been mentioned. Over on Kirby's blog (http://kirbysblog-ic.blogspot.com/), they mentioned that you can put your Termies/Libby's/GKGM into Chimera's. This is a great way to get a cheap transport for your TDA units. I don't know about cheap, as you first have to buy an Inquisitor, and then have to buy a henchman warband and give them a Chimera as dedicated transport. That adds to the cost indirectly. And then your terminator models can't even begin the game inside the Chimera. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimz Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Yes not being able to deploy them inside the Chimera is annoying however 92 Points v.s approx 200 for LR or SR? Frees up a few points :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Putting terminators in Chimeras is an abomination worse than Space Apes. If anyone did this against me, I would leave, come back with a cream pie and throw it in their face. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rose Princes Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 yeah, some of you take the fluff a little too seriously. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 yeah, some of you take the fluff a little too seriously. In real life, please wear a sign that says "I am The Rose Princes on B+C". That way if I ever see you, I can throw a cream pie in your face. PS - Then I would send you to a treatment center so you could detect things like sarcasm, hyperbole and jokes like normal people can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 IIRC didn't the IG FAQ forbid putting allied GK Terminators in Chimeras and Valkyries? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyking Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 2500pts HQ Librarian Might, Shroud, Sanctuary, Quicksilver, 2x Skulls, Teleport Homer Elite Venerable Dreadnought Assault Cannon/CCW+SB Psybolt Venerable Dreadnought Assault Cannon/CCW+SB Psybolt Troops 10 x GKT 4 Halberd, 4 Swords, 2 Hammers, 2 Psycannons, Psybolts 10 x GKT 4 Halberd, 4 Swords, 2 Hammers, 2 Psycannons, Psybolts FA Stormraven TL-LC/TL-MM Stormraven TL-LC/TL-MM Heavy Dreadnought TL-AC/TL-AC Psybolt Dreadnought TL-AC/TL-AC Psybolt I have about 305 pts left to play with. Not sure if I want to add a GKSS with TL-LC Razorback, a GM or Terminator OMI, Techmarine with various toys. Leaning towards Techmarine plus toys and GKSS squad for home objective keeper and bolstered defenses for my sniping RifleDreads. The basic plan for the list is to Flat-out move the Stormravens close together first turn, with the Librarian for shrouding and one GKT squad combat-squaded to fill both ravens along with the 2 Ven Dreads. The 2 Rifledreads, preferably in some kind of cover, will sit back and kill any enemy long guns and then Transports. Turn 2 the Ravens will only move 12" firing twice, deploying all passengers, shooting and assaulting as able. The second GKT squad will also be squaded with one to sit back and objective keep or otherwise to DS in as needed. I realize this isn't really a competitive list, but I like the look of it for friendly games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherWasted Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 IIRC didn't the IG FAQ forbid putting allied GK Terminators in Chimeras and Valkyries? Wouldn't matter even if it did. The IG Codex has no bearing over Codex: Grey Knights as you are using the Chimera Profile from the GK book. As it is not FAQed yet, Terminators can use Chimeras according to RAW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 So it's fine to exploit something you know will most probably be illegal in a few months? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rose Princes Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 So it's fine to exploit something you know will most probably be illegal in a few months? :P yes! no one can tell the future.. so play through until the future is the present. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherWasted Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 So it's fine to exploit something you know will most probably be illegal in a few months? :lol: Months is a long time. If they didn't want Terminators in Chimeras, they should have said so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2695982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Augustine Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 "We armed these exo-suits with the latest in Dreadnought close combat weapons!" "Great, what do they do?" "Nothing... but they're the best!" "....Huh?" "And its got two of them!" Later "....and that's why I burned the Jokaero, Inquisitor. He was obviously touched by Chaos." LOL Agreed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2696012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 IIRC didn't the IG FAQ forbid putting allied GK Terminators in Chimeras and Valkyries? Chimera's were never mentioned, only Valks. You can currently get GKT in Chimera's, using only C;DH, if you play Spearhead. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2696028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crynn Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 So it's fine to exploit something you know will most probably be illegal in a few months? :D This is a joke right? No one is exploiting anything. You don't know what GW intends only what they have written. If we all went on what we thought they meant instead of what is written we'd have athousand different rule sets and imagine the disagreements on 'rules as intended'. You may think you know what GW means here but that is it, you think. We all thought GW would allow extra armour on a Lib Dread but we were proven wrong, so all those people who argued that the rules didn't allow it but they didn't intend that and played it anyway just cheated. If i was your opponent and you told me I was exploiting this rule I'd tell you to shove it because you are the one exploiting something by thinking that because there isn't a rule saying you can't put them in and it is a little bit unclear, you would ask your opponent not to do something because it is benificial for you while being perfectly legal in rules. All of this, 'I think this' and 'this was intended' crap has to stop. I was at a tournament the other day and after moving my Death Company in a way perfectly legal but in his mind not in fluff my opponent got very annoyed. I grabbed a mike and proceeded to tell the crowd how I was going to get sport hit because this guy thinks he should be writing the rules and explained this idiots problem. After an aplause the guy felt like a little stupid for effectively asking me to cheat in his favour and was quick to appologise. Simply put, no one knows what GW are thinking at any one time, we can only go on what they write, It saves arguements from people having differing opinions on how they think a rule should be and makes for a more simple game. Please please grow up and realize it's a game with rules that lay out what you can and can't do. Right now he can, and I bet in the heat of battle if an inquistor really needed to get some termies somewhere, he'd have no problem letting them hi-jack a chimera. Regards, Crynn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2696941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Cool story about embarrassing some guy you don't even know without explaining what you actually did. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2697023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Crynn you fully just lost some interwebz respect from me. And you must remember just because a rule does not say I can do something does not mean you can do it . There is no rule saying I cannot smack someone over the head with a Rugby sock full of Metal Dreadnoughts sure the Laws of any country say it would be assault But hey in 40 K my Dreads are fully able to assault their enemies. Look putting Termies in a Chimera is a Derp move and really does deserve a dread socking. I would let you do it but in the same you are going to have to put up with my army having re-roll able 2++ saves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224525-most-powerful-gk-build/page/9/#findComment-2697081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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