Nomus Sardauk Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Greetings brothers! Now that I have finished my work on Shrike of the cowardly and blindy emperor worshiping Raven Guard found here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284259-shrike-conversion-done/ I can get back to my favorite silver sociopaths. As mentioned in my last post I got the Legion Preators for Christmas and quickly inducted them into the Tyrant's ranks. I was unsure what to do with the Termi captain and was considering on just painting him as a one off Heresy era marine but after a few minutes thought decided he'd serve better enforcing the Tyrant's will. Let me introduce the Chaplain of the 1st Company and Enforcer of Huron's Will. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/chaplain_zps02e58df3.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/chaplain2_zps1c4c70d7.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/chaplain3_zps7880a700.jpg Those greenstuff "eyeballs" will be his helmet lenses if you were wondering. The skull is one of the old WFB Skeleton skulls with some Dragonforge tubes and greenstuff. He is pretty much done being converted except for his gun. Right now I am debating either having his storm bolter slung under neath his pointing arm by a leather strap or just swapping out the pointing hand and having him shoot. I'm leaning towards the slung idea although that's just more greenstuff/plasticard work for me plus it covers up a considerable portion of the side of his upper leg on that side. There is a pretty tenacious mold line on that leg that I'm having trouble getting rid of, at least this will cover it up a bit. When I paint him I think he will have entirely black armor instead of the silver that all my other specialist will have. He will either just have a blue and gold shoulder pad or the pointing arm will be silver with the blue and gold pad, not sure yet. Now the big guy, The Tyrant's Champion and Captain of the 2nd Company, Corien Sumatris! http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/sumatris2_zpsf2d4a335.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/sumatris_zps84ff9a01.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/sumatris3_zps7d4aed8c.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/sumatris4_zps18d8f5c6.jpg Originally he was just going to be a captain with a relic blade but once I had glued that sword arm on there I knew he had to be Sumatris. He is also for the most part done, I need to put a little more detail on the inside of the storm shield such as a power generator and maybe a few more fiddly bits on the bolter and a slain enemy champion's helmet on the base. I am really happy with the open hand, I feel it really conveys his confidence and to an extent arrogance, I feel like it says "who's next?" when coupled with the rest of the model. Its made out of a left hand that holds the bolter. I cut the thumb off, cut the fingers apart and bent them into place and then sculpted the palm detail and his new thumb. I also had to reshape the glove part on his forearm a bit and the back of the hand. The helmet was a huge pain to fit on this body. I pretty much shaved off all the detail on the opposite side of it and beveled the heck out of the bottom to get it to fit in. I played around with using a bare head but I always pictured Sumatris with a helmet due to his shadowy nature and circumspect past. If you are unaware it is rumored he is actually a member of the Tiger Claws that was folded into the Astral Claws and hidden within their number by Huron. The helmet makes him more mysterious. The most difficult part is his Stalker Bolter. Its described as a Bolter made for him by Valthex that is linked to his armor and sits over his shoulder so he can use it hands free. All of the conversions I have seen of this online just look like a bolter glued onto a marines backpack. I thought of the old 54mm Inquisitor Convenant model that had a shoulder mounted gun when I made mine. The main body of the gun is the Bolter part of the new combi bolter. I feel like it looks enough like a Bolter but unique enough, and most importantly, slim enough, to be shoulder mounted. I added a scope, a Dragonforge tube and some random plasticard and greenstuff detail to break up the profile a bit. I am thinking about filling in the grooves on the "grip" part to make it smooth and maybe adding a tiny skull. Sorry for all the bare plastic lately, I have a Sternguard I just finished and his base just needs some snow, so I should have him up tomorrow or Thursday. For the Tyrant! Damn Nurgling I love how beautifully converted and painted your models are but these two take the cake, Sumatris's Stalker Bolter is igeniously done and he looks suitably impressive and arrogant with the Praetor's armour and his pose. Your Chaplain is my favourite of the two however both for the simplicity and effectiveness of the conversion, though I think maybe he could do with something to make him look a little more "priestly", perhaps a Priest's Stole hanging from underneath his shoulder plates, plus they'd add to the model's sense of motion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurgling6688 Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Thanks guys. As far as the chaplain goes is there a way for me to arm him with just the crozius? The storm Bolter slung under his arm looks alright but it's so bulky it's a bit distracting. I am also thinking of painting his skull helm silver instead of bone so he has some silver on him. Thoughts? I have done a bit more work on sumatris, I'll put up another pic when I feel he's done 100% Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'm aware I'm a little late to the party, but your Termi-Chaplain is inspired. Far better than the GW one that everyone loves, I would say. Also, your Sternguard are gorgeous. Looking forward to the rest of the squad! Regarding your thoughts... Painting the Chaplain's helm silver would be a good way of tying him visually in with the rest of the force, so I say go for it. Also, have you considered doing the Crozius slightly larger and making something like a Custodes weapon with the storm bolter built in to the shaft? Not sure how that fits in to your vision or if it would pull focus away from the man himself, but it's a thought! Can't wait for more mate. Really good stuff! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I agree with struManChu Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I take it buvalu's head is from the new kits....you have a knack for them all looking so different and posed....is that just how versatile the new kits are or is there more nurgling magic underneath? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I really like what you did with the praetor set! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Alexandros Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Amazing work man those are awesome. I don't agree that a marine mini would be a fitting guard proxy, especially in a Tyrant's Legion list but I don't want to derail Nurgling's topic. I guess I'll wait and see how you explain it in your own wip thread. It might be awhile before I start one though :P need to save up money, and I plan on making the venerable dreadnought ancient klietor which is of the astral claws Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurgling6688 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 I take it buvalu's head is from the new kits....you have a knack for them all looking so different and posed....is that just how versatile the new kits are or is there more nurgling magic underneath? I did absolutely zero converting on the sternguard, every piece is from that set, as is. No cutting or anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephrael Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Thanks guys. As far as the chaplain goes is there a way for me to arm him with just the crozius? The storm Bolter slung under his arm looks alright but it's so bulky it's a bit distracting. I am also thinking of painting his skull helm silver instead of bone so he has some silver on him. Thoughts? I have done a bit more work on sumatris, I'll put up another pic when I feel he's done 100% I have two suggestions for your Stormbolter dilemma. First have you considered using one with the barrels stacked one atop the other, like the combi-weapons in the Sternguard kit? That would slim down the profile of the weapon and serve as less of a distraction. Second, what about using a standard stormbolter discarded on the ground at his feet. It could have an ejected and empty ammo drum or some kind of jam or malfunction. This way you still have the weapon represented on the model technically it won't obscure the mini itself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I agree with the silver skull idea, it would tie nicely together with the rest of the army, although I am a fan of bone coloured skulls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I have two suggestions for your Stormbolter dilemma. First have you considered using one with the barrels stacked one atop the other, like the combi-weapons in the Sternguard kit? That would slim down the profile of the weapon and serve as less of a distraction. Second, what about using a standard stormbolter discarded on the ground at his feet. It could have an ejected and empty ammo drum or some kind of jam or malfunction. This way you still have the weapon represented on the model technically it won't obscure the mini itself. Both of Mikhail's suggestions are sound and should help with your storm bolter problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 That Chaplain is purest awesome!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'm not into the whole Badab-conflict that much, but man that champion guy is cool =) I'll probably steal that bolter-mount idea. It looks very nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3558910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Your Chaplain is my favourite of the two however both for the simplicity and effectiveness of the conversion, though I think maybe he could do with something to make him look a little more "priestly", perhaps a Priest's Stole hanging from underneath his shoulder plates, plus they'd add to the model's sense of motion. Man, how did I miss this comment the first time around SanguiniusReborn? I think that's a really cool idea (and I have planned to do that on some chaplain projects of my own) but there are a couple of potential things with that: which version of catholicism are you basing the liturgical stole colors for the imperium/chapter off of? Roman catholic, Eastern Orthodox or Russian Orthodox? You really could argue that the imperium is a mish mash of all three- but those liturgical colors don't always mesh up 100% with one another. That said, a black stole (death rites, funerals, etc.) or a red stole (martyrdom and passion) or even yellow (generally nonspecific) would be a safe bet; if he went that route. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3559064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Your Chaplain is my favourite of the two however both for the simplicity and effectiveness of the conversion, though I think maybe he could do with something to make him look a little more "priestly", perhaps a Priest's Stole hanging from underneath his shoulder plates, plus they'd add to the model's sense of motion. Man, how did I miss this comment the first time around SanguiniusReborn? I think that's a really cool idea (and I have planned to do that on some chaplain projects of my own) but there are a couple of potential things with that: which version of catholicism are you basing the liturgical stole colors for the imperium/chapter off of? Roman catholic, Eastern Orthodox or Russian Orthodox? You really could argue that the imperium is a mish mash of all three- but those liturgical colors don't always mesh up 100% with one another. That said, a black stole (death rites, funerals, etc.) or a red stole (martyrdom and passion) or even yellow (generally nonspecific) would be a safe bet; if he went that route. Thanks Chaplain, I didn't really have a specific colour in mind though given most of the model will probably be black perhaps it could be blue to go with the astral claws heraldry? As for what type of stole I mainly based my idea off the Roman Catholic version as that's what I'm most familiar with, it was just what came to mind at the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3559137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I said a swear word when I saw the terminator chaplain. Awesome stuff! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3560104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurgling6688 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 So general opinion. I am about to start work on a drop pod, which will be my first large vehicle for the Claws, and should I line highlight the metal panels like I do on the infantry sized guys or just heavily weather it for a more natural look. Either way I will heavily weather it, I just don't know if line highlighting will look unnatural on that large of a model. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3560690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I personally don't think the line highlighting holds up that well on vehicles and would vote for the more natural appearance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3560692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Heavy weathering.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3560789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Natural. Line HLs are not that great on large models like that. Ask my two drop pods, my rhino and my vindicator... :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3560946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Heavy weathering. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3560993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 So clean. So very clean. And so much character too. Keep it coming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3561013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurgling6688 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Alright, so I started on the Drop Pod and I think I am going to do some line highlighting on it, here's my reason why. At first I was all for no highlighting, just weathering, then I saw a beautiful Contemptor Dread on CMoN that had all sorts of wonderful highlighting on it. I know whenever I paint my dread I will want to do something similar, and they are about the same size as a Drop Pod. I just think it will look weird if my walkers are highlighted and my vehicles are not. I don't know, maybe I am wrong here, you tell me. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/droppodwip2_zps735bbc73.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/droppodwip3_zpsd0808020.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/droppodwip4_zpsecabf804.jpg And this one is a little overblown but the colors are more accurate to real life. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/tylerrox6688/droppodwip_zpsa8b4e2ab.jpg So you can see the line highlighting on there, I did some on the bottom, outside as well but have already started to add some chipping. Should I just leave the highlighting for the interior? I am very torn on this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3562258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurgling6688 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 So I want to test this idea out here. I have been playing with the idea of making a Badab War themed site for all the Badab players out there, kind of like the ones for the Heresy. I don't have the resources (or time) to run a full fledged forum, plus I think that B&C more then fills that need. However I would like to have something to pull together all of my Astral Claw stuff, my artwork and then also display armies from other people who have a Badab force. Possibly throw up some battle reports (old school, text ones, not videos), cool galleries, etc. So for this I would need other people who would be interested in contributing content to it. I will probably use Blogger as a template since that is what I am comfortable with. Is there any interest out there in the community for something along these lines? We could possibly even organize some sort of Badab event, maybe at the GW Bunker in Memphis at the Games Day weekend for all the people who are going. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3568071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Sounds like a cool idea. Could even try a Badab Thread on here, get a few gamers. I'm doing Marines Errant atm. Also for your Chaplain's Stormbolter, you don't have to model it on. Any weapon that comes standard doesn't need to be modeled on, the model is assumed to have it. Its why you dont need to stick a bolt-pistol or grenades on every Tactical Marine. I wouldn't let sticking the Stormbolter on ruin a great model, unless you can find a way of doing it that you're happy with. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226049-the-tyrant-rises-update-51815-tac-marines-done/page/20/#findComment-3568106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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