kapturowski Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I agree with the previous posters, stick with the Carcharodons, they look amazing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2827247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Perdo Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 As others have said stick with the pointy toothed ones, they are very inspiring, and superbly executed, or they execute superbly, one or the other Whilst the abstract patterning does look daunting to do, having looked at the FW transfer sheet there should be more enough there to break up any monotony you might feel regards greyness, and hopefully reload your motivation reserves. The Contemptor dreads body looks like it has a lot of flat surface that those abstract south sea/innuit style shark/whale patterns would look excellent on. Then again, it is your time, do whatever makes you happiest. You did mention about exploring gore, which will contrast well with the grey and also tie in with the old Space Shark colours. Saying that my FW stuf hasn't turned up yet either...don't they know who I am! Traitors :) Whilst I still haven't sorted out a new painting table at my new house both yourself and Ravendove's threads have been so inspiring I have actually been writing up my homebrew Codex Chapter IA article as the only way to get a marine fix at the moment (well, that and ordering the new dread and heavy weapons from FW). I am sure I am not the only one who pops on daily just to see what you two nutters have come up with to shame your less productive brothers ;) So don't stop, I get to have a vicarious marine fix by reading your thread. And yes, the Imperial Fist yellow looks great (as do all your sample minis) but there are a lot of folks out there who paint the yellow men from earth, so stick with the grey ones from the void beyond the stars, it makes a refreshing change (and what is there not to like about Nomad-Predator fleets?). You are playing Space Sharks, your maw is large and mighty, you cannot possibly have bitten off more than you can chew ;) PS no doubt by this time next week I will be joining a growing list of folks turning the air blue trying to put those FW heavy weapons together ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2827303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I just read through this entire thread and can't believe I missed it for this long. Some comments: 1. You are very talented and are turning this thread into one of those "special" projects that people will refer to for some time to come (i.e. like when FW decides for whatever reason that the Carchs aren't grey anymore, but silver :) ). Many thanx for sharing your talents with the rest of us and being so inspiring. 2. I think there's a way to solve your "I'm fed up with grey" problem. Have you considered reaching back to the original fluff and painting some squads with the Space Sharks yellow camo scheme? Basically, it's a similar yellow to what you have already evidenced, but has a windy black looping vine with thorns on it to break up the yellow. That would allow your army to remain true to the fluff and give you a break. Anyway you might check that out (do a searchy on Google or look up on Lexicanum) and you might find what you are looking for. * Keep up the great work, it is truly inspiring. Cheers, * If you have problems locating that image, PM me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2827429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 If you're fed up with grey why not try some other colour schemes on spare models you have to find the right accompanying chapter - it'll help with the colour burnout and also allow you to flex your painting muscles. Then come back to Carcharadons when you're good and ready. I love your stuff but I won't be so selfish as to demand you keep going (not that I'm saying anyone else has). It's your army, it's your blog. You do as you wish, brother. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2827700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter! Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Use the Fists as Sternguard, leave the tooth-and-nail fighting to the Sharks. I don't think too many Sharks would be bothered to hunker down and it isn't unheard of to have a support squad from another Chapter aid in an engagement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2827749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I disagree with sticking with just grey,if you feel it is burning you out take a break from it. I always rotate 2 projects for just that reason. When I get back to the original it always comes out better. Hell I just took a 6 month break due to burn out Have you Fists strike force have things your Space Sharks do not,such as if the Sharks are shooty make the Fists assault. If you want to play 1 army one way you use the Sharks, you want to play another use the Fists. You are very talented by the way,great battle damage and chipping nice and subtle Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2827848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephrael Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 What about doing some Howling Griffons? They have yellow and red on them which you seem to have the skill to paint well. The quartered scheme would be more complex and challenging. They were part of the Badab war as loyalists so it is entirely possible that they fought beside the Carcarodons. You could also paint some of them in the Blacked-out night color armor from the IA books. That gives you three potential color schemes to rotate between, it should help with keeping fresh with your painting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2828051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinepriest Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Update time! Now I was really hoping to have some Marines with decals to show you, but alas... Forgeworld has not delivered. I sent them an E-mail today asking if they have even shipped my Contemptor Dread and decal sheet. Oh well... Since the last update I've been experimenting with other chapters. I played around with an Imperial Fist and as much as I love the colour and character of this fine chapter I don't think I have the guts to paint whole squads of them. Yellow is a bitch... Even with Iyanden Darksun. So I turned back to a chapter I've been meaning to start for several years, the Red Scorpions. I'm comfortable painting grey armour and they even sport some nice yellow details. I painted up a test mini which I'm pretty pleased with, but I'm still not 100% sure if this is the secondary chapter I'm looking for. Or if I'm going to do a combined force at all for that matter. It was great fun to paint something different though! :) I don't have any Red Scorpion decals and I'm not that great at freehand painting, so if anyone wants to donate a scorpion decal for this lone Space Marine, that would be awesome :) Red Scorpion: http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r238/Machinepriest/Hobby/RedScorpion01800.jpg Badab bad-asses: http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r238/Machinepriest/Hobby/Badabbadasses.jpg I also finished another Tactical Marine for my Carcharodons. Now i just need to paint up the Sergeant and a Heavy Weapon Marine to have my first full squad. (Thanks to Doghouse for his advice on getting a better fit for the Bolters on this type or armour) MK3 Iron Armour: http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r238/Machinepriest/Hobby/IronArmour02800.jpg I also took a photo of the whole army as it stands now. I'm getting there! Slowly... http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r238/Machinepriest/Hobby/Eightplustwo800.jpg As always, thanks for looking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustmanifesto Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 hey man -- great work here! Getting a good, characterful result with gray can be hard but you've succeeded well! Just two small questions -- what did you do for basing and what technique did you use to achieve the grit on your power armor (the brown stuff) is that a thin application of paint or is it pigment washes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arne Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Holy smoke! -_- ...again! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Are the Mark III somehow larger than the Mark IV models ore did you use some sort of truescaling on the former? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mord Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 You may get tired of painting grey but keep your eye on the prize There is nothing more rewarding than placing a fully painted army down on the gaming table. Very satisfying Your models are first class and will really pop once you get your chapter markings on. Maybe unit markings as well If you get tired of painting troopers grey try doing a vehicle between squads. While using the same colors painting a vehicle has different challenges to keep you going Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Targhost Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Simply love them all!! Looks so awesome and love the black glossy eyes with the white face plate!! And your skin tone is simply briliant!!! -_- such menace and wickedness in them... arg... makes me whana start some too... love the gritty, dirty feal you give the armour... superb chipping and ruggedness to them! :lol: p.s your assaulty once should have chain axes btw :P mmm.. cant wait for more of them to apear here soon!!! Cheers on a wickedly nice army mate and go with the Carcharodons completly as it would look the most awesome even though i realy like the Scorpion one the Carcharodons looks so more brutal and dread bringing in the way you make them.. Ohh and when can we see more of the feral and aweseome "Mr. Red Wake" of yours ? :ph34r: sweet brutal bastard that one!! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Eight Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 now that is a good looking red scorpion and your carcharodons are awesome cant wait to see more Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Perdo Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I have the FW Siege of Vraks sheet which has RS transfers on it, as well as some of the resin bits, and brass etch etc. Look at the image at FW here and decide which ones work for you. I won't bore you with why I have a sheet I no longer need*. Just PM me and we'll sort something, if I recall you are in Sweden and the mail to there is suprisingly cheap. I sent a huge box of old orcs and gobboes recorded delivery to a bloke I met in WoW, and he did impressive things with the old skull chukka and doom diver...*searches* here. Regardless it was as cheap as mailing inside the UK. The price is I will be copying your subtle line battle damage scratches technique (or SLBDST as I now call it) :cuss I like Grey Deaths sponge technique but I have lots of nobbly marines so your technique will work better for my infantry and his for my vehicles. As for FW as you probably know you can check under your account on orders to see if they have shipped. Given I ordered my dreanought/weapons on the 19th and they arrived Monday, and I sense you ordered a lot earlier than that, something sounds wrong. Tell them your fan base at B&C are getting irate and will feed them to the sharks if the don't fix it, or failing that I'll write a letter to my Euro MP ;) *Boring Warning: I wanted the white tactical markings for another project that never gained traction but upon which I still wasted...spent money, and then eventually FW released the generalised black and white SM sheet and I got some of those instead to use for my current project forgetting I already had suitable white transfers. PS thanks for the colour recipe at the start, I was wondering what to do my cruxs in on a veteran sergeant and I saw you'd done your studs in Bright Brass Vallejo Air. I had some for another project where I bought everything and then went...nah. But it does mean I had a box of Bright Brass and I have just used it and your right, lovely colour, already nicely fluid and watery and much, much better than the GW gold metallics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 ok as much as ive been impressed with your work so far theres something that needs to be asked that i didnt really pay much attention to before.. how are you painting your bases? the look lovely due to the simplicity of them. the red scorpion looks really nice although a 2nd grey chapter seems somewhat wrong.. try a fire angel, id like to see your take on them and then pilfer whichever method you come up with for my own project after you utterly outshine my own works :) also wheres the red wake dammit! i wanna see the redone head! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I love the splash of colour that Red Scorpion has brought to the picture there, and as usual the paintwork is exemplary. I'd be proud to own miniatures such as yours (no exaggeration, brother). :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Fantastic stuff mate! :) The bare head Mk III guy looks amazing as does the Red Scorpion, love the effect of the lenses on that guy it looks brilliant! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir31 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 wow love the glowing lenses! how do you achieve that effect would love to try it myself any advise or websites? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMoon Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 im having the same problem with my mk 3 guys how are you and doghouse doing the bolters? its probly staring me in the face and im missing it lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Masariel Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 the best sharks out there so far! my compliments machine.. :lol: Now we all want to know what's doghouse secret hint about! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I have tons of Red Scorp Shoulder Pads PM me if interested Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2832794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinepriest Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Thanks a lot for all the positive feedback. It really means a lot to me :) Many questions this time, I'll try my best to answer them all. hey man -- great work here! Getting a good, characterful result with gray can be hard but you've succeeded well! Just two small questions -- what did you do for basing and what technique did you use to achieve the grit on your power armor (the brown stuff) is that a thin application of paint or is it pigment washes? I'm glad someone took notice of the bases. It took a while for me to find a natural earthy tone that looks natural. I paint my bases with a basecoat of GW's lovely foundation paint Chardon Granite, wash it with Devlan Mud and drybrush it with 60/40 Khaki and Chardon Granite. The rocks is just slate that I paint in a medium grey tone from Vallejo, can't remember which one at the moment but I think it's similar to Adeptus Battlegrey. I drybrush the rocks with the same mix that I highlight the earth with and then a final drybrush of Codex Grey. As for the grit and dirt on the armour, I use both a brown wash and different pigment powders from Vallejo to achieve it. I concentrate the pigments to the lower parts of the armour and even use some on the rocks on the base. Are the Mark III somehow larger than the Mark IV models ore did you use some sort of truescaling on the former? They are bulkier than the other marks of armour, but not really taller. I take it you're referring to the running marine next to the Red Scorpion. He looks a bit taller because he's stretching his legs. No "truescaling" there. Simply love them all!! Looks so awesome and love the black glossy eyes with the white face plate!! And your skin tone is simply briliant!!! such menace and wickedness in them... arg... makes me whana start some too... love the gritty, dirty feal you give the armour... superb chipping and ruggedness to them! p.s your assaulty once should have chain axes btw, mmm.. cant wait for more of them to apear here soon!!! Cheers on a wickedly nice army mate and go with the Carcharodons completly as it would look the most awesome even though i realy like the Scorpion one the Carcharodons looks so more brutal and dread bringing in the way you make them.. Ohh and when can we see more of the feral and aweseome "Mr. Red Wake" of yours ? sweet brutal bastard that one!! Glad you like 'em mate! I actually have some chain axes from Forgeworld that I plan to use IF I do a Assault Squad or a Tactical Squad armed for close combat. As for Tyberos, I think I'll start slapping paint on him when I'm done with the Tactical Squad, sort of like a reward. There's also a Contemptor Dreadnought with dual fists coming up ;) I have the FW Siege of Vraks sheet which has RS transfers on it, as well as some of the resin bits, and brass etch etc. Look at the image at FW here and decide which ones work for you. I won't bore you with why I have a sheet I no longer need*. Just PM me and we'll sort something, if I recall you are in Sweden and the mail to there is suprisingly cheap. I sent a huge box of old orcs and gobboes recorded delivery to a bloke I met in WoW, and he did impressive things with the old skull chukka and doom diver...*searches* here. Regardless it was as cheap as mailing inside the UK. The price is I will be copying your subtle line battle damage scratches technique (or SLBDST as I now call it) I like Grey Deaths sponge technique but I have lots of nobbly marines so your technique will work better for my infantry and his for my vehicles. As for FW as you probably know you can check under your account on orders to see if they have shipped. Given I ordered my dreanought/weapons on the 19th and they arrived Monday, and I sense you ordered a lot earlier than that, something sounds wrong. Tell them your fan base at B&C are getting irate and will feed them to the sharks if the don't fix it, or failing that I'll write a letter to my Euro MP Thanks man! Sending a decal to Sweden from the UK should only cost like... A quid, tops. SLBDST eh? I'm having great fun trying to pronounce that :D I actually weather my Marined both with sponges and brush. First with a sponge to get some random little scratches, then with a brush along the edges and areas that would show a lot of wear and tear. Areas that would normally be highlighted. As for the Forgeworld order, I can't check the status online as I placed the order over the phone, so all I have is a order number. Actually, when the Carcharodon decals showed up on the site I placed an order for them along with a Ironclad Dreadnought. But as soon as the Contemptor made it's appearance I called and asked them to change my order, replacing the Ironclad with the Pre-Heresy Dread. It's Friday now, no Dreadnought, no decals, and I won't get any mail until Monday... Yep! I'm almost crying here! :cuss ok as much as ive been impressed with your work so far theres something that needs to be asked that i didnt really pay much attention to before.. how are you painting your bases? the look lovely due to the simplicity of them. the red scorpion looks really nice although a 2nd grey chapter seems somewhat wrong.. try a fire angel, id like to see your take on them and then pilfer whichever method you come up with for my own project after you utterly outshine my own works also wheres the red wake dammit! i wanna see the redone head! Look upwards to see how I painted the bases :) Fire Angels eh? Nah, I'll leave those to you. Yours are awesome! Hoping to see your project log updated soon by the way! I think I'm going to try to focus on my Carcharodons actually. The Red Scorpion was a nice diversion and I might just paint other miniatures, Marines even if I ever get bored with The Sharks again. As for the Red Wake, he's still lurking beneath the surface, still healing from his latest visit to the orthodontist wow love the glowing lenses! how do you achieve that effect would love to try it myself any advise or websites? Thanks! The glowing eyes were quite simple. I just used several layers of ULTRAMEGASUPERTHIN red around the eyes, with a final highlight of orange at the edges. The lenses themselves were based with Mechrite Red, highlighted with Blood Red, some orange paint, and a final highlight of orange plus white. im having the same problem with my mk 3 guys how are you and doghouse doing the bolters? its probly staring me in the face and im missing it lol I sent Doghouse a PM about this after seeing his awesome Pre-Heresy Iron Hands. He told me to trim away the 'ridges" on the wrist armour. If you look at my latest MK3 Marine you can clearly see the area where the arm has been trimmed allowing the Bolter to fit nicely. I didn't do this to the previous MK3 Marine, the running one so his Bolter doesn't fit as snug as the Phobos Bolter. Now I remember being asked how I did the rivets on the Terminators leg earlier. They are rivets from a company called Grandt Line. Should be easy to find through google. Again, thanks a lot for all the praise. I don't think I would have gotten this far with the army without your encouragement. 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Chapter Master Kanithon Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Love your carcharodons and the Red scorpion I'm surprised no one has asked yet but would you be able to give us a run down as to how you've painted the red scorpion? The way you've painted its slowly convincing me that i want to start a fluffy red scorpions army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2833026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I have to say I love your work still... The Red Scorpion is done just so well that it makes me want to do them. But I won't :P However I am going to steal your eye technique for my next project! ... That is provided its ok? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230406-carcharadons/page/8/#findComment-2833397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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