Dark Rage Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Very nicely done, I like the 2nd option it clearly shows with the cross no longer being affiliated with ultra and the corsairs Icon on top shows the new affiliation. where as the 3rd pic seems to make the two chapter icons seem merged. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3784355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 What do you envision their purpose to be? If they are forward agents the last seems pretty good (and I like it aesthetically), but the x plus fist is probably the best way of showing allegiance. The X alone suggests that the most important aspect of them is not their new loyalty, but their rejection of their old loyalty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3784396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Thats a pretty cool Idea Teetengee, I use them to show progress in the squad. The plain red "X" for rejection of old chapter. The "x" and the astral claw is proven loyalty in battle! Then if they survive enough battles say 100 or so, they dawn the Red armor I Think I agree with Dark Rage on the third one. To be honest I thought that one would be the best in my mind, but after photoshoping it on there it does look mashed. What about the other shoulder? Should I do both but only the "X" on that side or leave the arrow cuz i really like it? or paint a small "X" inside the arrow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3785177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I like the idea of the red X's, but I instantly think Death Company when I see it. How about a black X, or go for scarification and weathering as if he scrubbed the armour to remove the tactical marking? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3785249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Sorry Dantay, but Red "X" id the Red Corsair way Anywhoo I started something else White Scar. I primed it grey then gave it a coat of white. Then I gave it a waterdown black wash in the shadows http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140822_WhiteScar_05521_zpsa3d65fc5.jpghttp://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140822_WhiteScar_05531_zpsba77f3c8.jpghttp://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140822_WhiteScar_05541_zps1afd122b.jpg Just a start Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3787468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Just a suggestion but I'd try mixing in a few traitor marine armour pieces to make it look more renegade-ish, without access to their chapter's resources anymore the Oathbreaker's are going to have to repair and replace their own gear with whatever they can find. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3787622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 Thanks for the comment SanguiniusReborn, But I figure that these Oathbreakers are new recruits, They should know how to take care of their armour. By the time their armour gets beyond repair they would either earn the Red Corsairs armour or have died. I got more done on the white Scar http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140822_WhiteScar_05581_zpsc24a8050.jpghttp://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140822_WhiteScar_05591_zps3b3fb372.jpghttp://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140822_WhiteScar_05601_zpsd598fae2.jpg Im really enjoying this. I have never realized how easy it is to paint a marine Thats one colour. Still have alot to do. I have to free hand the shoulder, give it a wash and battle damage. C&C are welcome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3789596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 So I managed to get a little more done on the White Scar. The shoulder pad is done and the oil wash is finally dry. http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140825_WhiteScar_0564_zps69db2c0b.jpghttp://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140825_WhiteScar_0562_zps767a0f89.jpghttp://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140825_WhiteScar_0563_zps7e409e5f.jpg Comments are welcome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3792268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Really like the freehand symbol, and you did a great ob with the red highlights too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3792425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Second the freehand, well done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3792913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Thanks guys! Now i have add damage...not sure how to highlight white tho, but I'll give it a shot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3793230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 I received that oyumaru stuff in the mail yesterday and hopefully I get a chance to play with it after work today. I'll keep you posted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3794264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 So pretty much all weekend I've been playing with my Oyumaru... and burning my fingers. This stuff is amazing. It can be finicky sometimes but the best part is If I don't like it i can try again. I found with OOMOO rubber you are pretty much stuck with the result good or bad. I went through my old OOMOO mold and compared the quality and I have to say that the Oyumaru wins hands down. I remember all the air bubbles holes I had to fix. Mind you I do not own a vacuum tank or a pressure tank for the OOMOO which is needed for good quality molds. If I compare both rubber the OOMOO is alot more flexible then Oyumaru. Oyumaruis pretty hard and strong. Which making more of a press mold Oyumarui s very easy to use, but like I said finicky. You still can get air bubbles and now even water trapped in the mold. but My favorite part is try again. I see most people use green stuff with Oyumaru and I didn't see many resin examples. but I gave it a try... and it work great with resin. Unfortunetly for me my resin was soo old that most of the time it would expand almost 2x the size. So I gave up on it and tried green stuff. Damn green stuff takes forever to harden. Im thinking i'll pick up some milliputt. Alot cheaper then resin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3797798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 So I kinda put everything on hold again. I'm really interested in playing this edition, I started reading the rules and I had a friend help me make a list. I figure that i sould update my list to suit 7th, instead of wasting my time painting things i wont use anymore. Here is the list he made for me:Space Wolves: Codex (2014)HQ (140pts)Rune Priest: Psyker Mastery Level 2, Relic: Helm of Durfast, Rune Sword, Armour of Russ, Bolt Pistol,Elites (615pts)Arjac Rockfist,WG Terminator Leader w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield4x WG Terminator w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm ShieldLand Raider CrusaderTroops (381pts)9x Grey Hunter: Plasma GunRhino10x Grey Hunter: 2x Plasma GunRhinoHeavy Support (365pts)5x Long Fangs: 2x Heavy Bolters, 2x LascannonsPredator: 2x Lascannons, AutocannonPredator: 2x Lascannons, AutocannonThis list pretty much gets rid of all 15 of my ML marines. The up side Is I get to use my termies and maybe finish my landraider. As for the heavies He suggested that i should have 3 Long fang units of 2 HB and 2 LC. But I find that its more 40 more points for the same number of LCs. Let me know what you think and any experts that can help me make a list for 7th would be appreciated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3840210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 ^^^ No Info or advice on this list? In the mean time, I started a test model for a lost unit of Astral Claws in the maelstrom.http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140822_AstralClaw_0555_zps0b32e7d4.jpghttp://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140822_AstralClaw_0556_zpsf7ff2728.jpghttp://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/Styrofoam04/20140822_AstralClaw_0557_zpseda40ec5.jpg Now I'm trying to go for the orginal pattern of the Astral Claws. But i think that there is soo much detail in this model that i'm not sure I can pull it off. Few options are: paint the whole thing orange then add the camo and ignor the detail. Or only have the large parts of the armour orange and the trim Black with no camo. Or should I go with orange and bronze trim with camo Any other Ideas are welcome too Reference:http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/3/3/191996_mb-Badab%20War%2C%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Tiger%20Claws%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000.jpghttp://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/3/3/191995_sm-Badab%20War%2C%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Tiger%20Claws%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000.jpg I'm looking for more dirty and evil, with a twist of the Maelstrom to it. As they have been lost of 100 years or so in the torment. tAs they have truely to the powers of Chaos. Im really at a loss and not sure where to go from here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3841836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I can't help you with the list, but I'd say Either Orange with Black Trim or Black with Orange trim. Make it look like the stripes have mutated into the trim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3841980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Piant the open areas with the Camo (cool ) and go from there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3841985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'd go with orange and the black stripe camo. Then instead of brass go with a dull metal or silver (instead of white, although white might work) for trim. Bronze might be a bit much. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fzyNs-GM1tE/Td-rk_F-AcI/AAAAAAAAAXY/rQyCuFTtxKQ/s1600/Angry-Tiger-Face-Picture-1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3842050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Really like TJ's latter idea there. Stripes mutated into trim with the second (older) picture. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3842052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'm not sure I understand? Orange with black trim Then have the back stripes come from the trim or go into? or overlap the stripes on the trim? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3842090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I vote like it is in the rogue trader picture. Black with orange trim and look as if the stripes mutated into the trim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3842121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 You won't be able to show the strips as seperate from the trim in too many places, so I was thinking more along the lines of or With how ornate the Dark Vengence guys are, there won't be blank areas like there are on the pics I posted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3842404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yup, with those DV guys there isn't enough room for armor patterns. The latter TJ just posted would look great IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3842552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks guys Great advice, I think I will add more shading and a wash. Then I'll post more pics at that point. before I decide. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3843008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 So I sat down at my desk and picked up the mini and stared at it for 20 mins..then put it down.I ended up playing with the oyumaru stuff again. I cant say it enough this stuff is awesome!! Some of my molds that I made was pretty decient. If I made the mold with rubber i would accept the quality. Instead I made it better. Two part mold and the 2nd part wasn't getting under some areas. So I did some cutting to match the mold line of the piece. Took all the srcaps and the top part, remelted and made a new top mold. It took a few tries and my finger tips are burnt and raw, but the new mold turned out perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/237985-lord-of-the-maelstrom-a-red-corsairs-wip-blog/page/11/#findComment-3843891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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