Aqatone Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 @Aqatone: This here masterpiece is the best 40K drawing I've ever seen. I like Mr. (or Lord) Dainton's view of disproportionate armour combined with thinner arms. It reinforces the bulk while making the pose more fluid. and at the very least shaping them on the drawing right from the start. Failure to do so will force you to erase more an better lines. There's bulk and then there's just grotesque deformity. I'd wager to go and say that you've taken daintons style and bulked it up again to a representation of something more in line with Nurgle. He looks bloated to bizarre degrees. I'm not criticizing your drawing ability, I've always been an advocate of bulky marines - it's a good drawing. I just think you've gone over board in his proportions in trying to convey bulk and size. Instead the term "lard ass" comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 I can see how it may look so, but I hate thin-legged marines. And my view of Terminator armour is that of a huge piece of mechanized armour (sorry for the redundance). Can't stand when all that differs it from the power variant is the "roof" above the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 This here masterpiece is the best 40K drawing I've ever seen. I like Mr. (or Lord) Dainton's view of disproportionate armour combined with thinner arms. It reinforces the bulk while making the pose more fluid. The proportions look totally wrong for it, even if you consider the pose might disguise some of the bulk around the abdomen or chest area; the legs by far outsize the rest of the body proportionally and it makes little sense. Tactical Dreanaught Armour is simply a bulked up version of Power Armour, despite the name suggesting it being a personal suit of actual Dreadnaught armour, and as such the limbs should have a greater thickness but not so great as the trunk - remember even a Terminator is supposed to be able to manipulate things within his gauntlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqatone Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I can see how it may look so, but I hate thin-legged marines. And my view of Terminator armour is that of a huge piece of mechanized armour (sorry for the redundance). Can't stand when all that differs it from the power variant is the "roof" above the head. I'm not disagreeing with you. As I mentioned, I am all for bulky marines and despise thin legged marines. I just feel that there is bulk, and then there is your terminator. You obviously aspire to improve with every drawing you do, so I wish to criticise and attempt to be helpful instead of just heaping lavish praise upon you <_< I look at Mr daintons grey knight and see bulk but also versatility in his proportions. Yours looks as though he'd even have trouble walking thanks to his over exaggerated (even for a marine) limbs. He doesn't appear to even be able to bend down to pick anything up. Where as mr daintons looks as though he could do just about anything. I hope I'm not coming across as overly negative here and hope you understand my criticisms B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 You're coming across as someone who'll make me think twice during my next drawing, mate. And that's all but bad. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/332/e/7/hive_gorger_murciel_by_greyall-d4hkc3l.jpg Ordo Malleus Channel 88349-Auron: Inquisitor Lord ######## Source: Agent Theta/47 - Sergeant Arriaga, Inquisitorial Storm Trooper Squad 759 Priority: High My Lord ########, we've completed the interrogation of the survivors of Hive Rasgus. All 35 of them, sir, every single one a husband and father, most driven to irreparable madness from witnessing their families' slaughter. Pardon the excessive detail, Lord, but it matches the hive massacre we've been investigating for the past six months in Bolvantus, down to the number, gender and marital status of those left alive. And again, retrieved pict-data from the Hive's internal circuit shows a single attacker. Lord, I remember well your reaction on Bolvantus, but we've put every capable servitor to work on this and every cross-hour and visual analysis results in the attack having been perpetrated by a single fiend. That it seems like a traitor Astartes in Tactical Dreadnought Armour does little to quell the astonishment, Lord. The first attack was on the Hive-Governor's facilities, and with no relevant material damage to report, which explains the late aid-request to our fleet. From there, the traitor Astartes stalked various sections of the Hive across the following two months, always with the same emphasis on psychological warfare: taking hold of the bloc's audio circuit to broadcast a constant, bass laughter that chills the spine even with the data's bad state. From then, he...We have almost a million dead in two months, Lord - not counting the Bolvantus situation - and without the use of a single explosive or any weapon of greater power than a heavy flamer... Shock and unrest are starting to take root on some soldiers, something I've done my best to put down, even resorting to exerting exemplary discipline upon Corporate Georgos. +++FOR INQUISITORIAL EYES ONLY+++ Dammit, #####, we've fought alongside each other for years, you know I trust your judgement more than I do mine. I'm fully aware of how much you risk in requesting reinforcements from the Ordo, but we can't put this monster to the blade with just our men. I beg of you, listen to me, before we lose far more. End of Message Ladies and gents, Hive-Gorger [Ravagas] Murciel I think it shows I've just bought - and liked - the Vampire Counts armybook. Still, i tried not to go overboard with the bat-wing theme, and I don't think it's excessive. A few fun facts. That's not his ribcage, of course. The flamer seems a little bland, but I wanted him to be kind of discrete in his difference. The trim is supposed to be fused bone. Notice the Nostraman Lion skull, marking him as an Atramentar. Hope y'all like it, thanks for checking him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamblin85 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Outstanding as usual mate! As always i can't wait for the next one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetfireUK Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I've read and re-read this thread and love the back story to each of your creations. Some characters I have preference over others but that's my personal aesthetic. I'm looking forward to what you'll think up next. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Targhost Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 LIke him allot.. and he looks even more sweet and awesome when i picture him with colours in my head.... :lol: hi is not totaly justifed without colours mate but realy nice!!! :) its one of them that id like to se in colour myself, othervise om like you in painting just black and white and leave the coulours to the imagenation of the vewer.... Still the World eater one is the best of the termis!! :) love your art mate and a great massiv insperation and character about them! love the storys you write to mate!! Cheers mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamblin85 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I don't want to shamelessly plug in my "art" but i'm slowly getting to all of greyall's lineart for colors, with his permission of course. If he doesn't mind the posting and anyone is interested in seeing the coloured versions of his lines lemme know. If greyall gives the thumbs up for me to post my gallery i'll link it so you can see what i've done color wise on the ones ive finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Of course, post away, matey. =) You've been doing a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He looks a little too krogan from Mass Effect for my taste. Cool back story though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamblin85 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Well wanted your permissions before posting Greyall, it's your artwork originally so ^^ , but insert shameless plug here http://shamblin85.deviantart.com/gallery/28570047 . Feel free to leave any comments ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemisor Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 he does look a little krogan looking, but i dont see that as a bad thing. amazing work again Greyall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Haha, I'd seen the lizard/frog/fish thing before, but believe me when I say he didn't come to my mind when drawing this guy. These Krogans do seem like hardasses, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowstalker Grim Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The vampire counts book is full of interesting bits so I can see where you got the inspiration and I must say it looks exceptionally good for it! Well done! Also I'm kind of seeing the Krogan resemblance, but only vaguely (I think its mainly the arch on his back that does that, Krogans have sort of a hunched posture with their armour too, but I can see that the arch is most definately vampire counts :P)....though yes Krogan are sort of the Badasses of the galaxy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I like him! Super detail on the armour and all the NL touches work very well! I also like the head and the movement -looks fluid despite being a Treminator. Not 100% sure on the concept for the chest plate though. I like it from a technical point of view -you've done great work there- but it does look a bit skeleton-like, a bit like the artificial ribcage holds in the artificial innards. I'm not sure that this is a reference particular to the NLs and it also adds a layer of vulnerability. Regardless, I like him even more than the World Eater! Love the Nostraman Lion btw! That is a great addition!!! Story great as usual - you make the characters come to life! Keep'em coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 That armor design is excellent. I think you've topped your world eater here. The only complaint i can think of is that the heavy flamer is a bit too stubby. It feels like it comes down to far for the thickness of the arms, and not enough out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightGount Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Absolutely ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 I wanted the flamer to look discrete, but I think I might've slacked a bit there, even if I like the design. I first thought of the usual 'Open-mouth Daemon head' design, but thought it was too cliché and then just went with the bone trim (oh, and I forgot to mention the little soundblaster on the handle, it's there so the flamer makes a shriek when it's fired. The ribcage is supposed to give him an undead look, this guy is obsessed with being a baron (he wasn't drawn from the Nostraman gangs, another reason he prefers to work alone, since most of his brothers will give him a hard time) of night, shadow and undeath (he takes being a pale, unhealthy-looking wraith very seriously). Hence the idea is for the breastplate be bone-white, same as the front of his helmet, and to have internal red light, making the cables look like true innards. The rest of him is midnight-blue, with only the bone-trim as a contrast. Thanks, guys, still not started on Sanguinius - not from a lack of attempts, though, he's a pain to draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Another detail-filled awesomefest here! My only complaint is that I cannot really see his face. I always have loved the helmets you draw, so not being able to see most of one breaks one of my two hearts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/336/8/7/sanguinius___primarch_of_the_blood_angels_by_greyall-d4hyh6w.jpg I sketched a pose for this guy about six times, at least. I started drawing him for reals about...four of those six times, if not more. I punched my mind into coming up with something and my patience into holding... I think is a bit too large and the muscle pattern is wrong due to my eagerness in finishing him...I feel the slightest bit bad. Not detailing the wings? :D :) :P :cuss that. Thank you. So, on a lighter note: Primarchs are having a time-out, not because my brain is overheating due to Sanguinius, but because Chuck Norris called. He wants me to draw his great-grandson...from the 41st Millennium. That means it's time for another contest. Whoever guesses which 40K badass (and I mean Chuck Norris's blood running through veins-badass) I'm drawing next wins a drawing of whichever 40K [power-armoured] character they wish. Remember, you can ask for a known character or your own Space-Marine(y) avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen_2 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 That means it's time for another contest. Whoever guesses which 40K badass (and I mean Chuck Norris's blood running through veins-badass) I'm drawing next wins a drawing of whichever 40K [power-armoured] character they wish. Remember, you can ask for a known character or your own Space-Marine(y) avatar. Sigismund! But Sangy's amor is looking ace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Lemartes :) Or possibly Abbaddon :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Whataf...why does everyone guess on the first comment? Man, I wanted some challenge...Well, "Badass" is Sigismund's middle name anyway. So, Rafen, who do you want me to draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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