Olis Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Gill-eh-mun. Sounds less french. Bingo. It sounds pretty close to how I say it. Dare I say I utter it this way sometimes, too. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3029799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000AD Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 If I'm not mistaken is that a Collar of Khorne being worn by Angron as part of his armour ?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3029900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Gotta love how many costume changes a Primarch needs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 is it just me or are the covers getting much better I think so as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Gotta love how many costume changes a Primarch needs. No, sir. Lorgar looks exactly the same as he does on the cover of The Primarchs and Aurelian - the only difference is his armour is red, as the Word Bearers changed their colours. Angron is wearing pretty much exactly the same stuff as on Tales of Heresy, The Primarchs, and John Blanche's original sketch of him. http://aarondembskibowden.wordpress.com/20...on-suggestions/. The only real difference is that we're seeing the Butcher's Nails better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I thought Lorgar had already ascended to Daemonhood by the events of Know No Fear? The hololith projection turning into something resembling the CCG art of him with the horns, etc before it explodes into blood right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Was it Lorgar though ^_^ Or was it Lorgar communicating through a Daemonic vassal? Or my likely (and my view) the communication system on Guilliman's own ship was perverted at the end of the transmission? Could even be more poetic though, it could have been a warp taint in the communication that showed the true soul of Lorgar to Guilliman. Be interesting to read the other side of the view if it's ever done to see what Lorgar sees, it this was true. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I thought Lorgar had already ascended to Daemonhood by the events of Know No Fear? God, no. Was it Lorgar though ^_^ Or was it Lorgar communicating through a Daemonic vassal? Or my likely (and my view) the communication system on Guilliman's own ship was perverted at the end of the transmission? Could even be more poetic though, it could have been a warp taint in the communication that showed the true soul of Lorgar to Guilliman. Be interesting to read the other side of the view if it's ever done to see what Lorgar sees, it this was true. http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/origin...clever-girl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Only just noticed that not only do these poor Ultramarines have to deal with two primarchs (with Angron being quite enough anyway!) but there are three anti-infantry warhounds bounding up from the left as well! What is the Ultramarine on the right saying to his brother? I'm going with: "ohh snap this can't end well..." Looks like the Warhounds are shooting the Word Bearers to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Gill-eh-mun. Sounds less french. Bingo. It sounds pretty close to how I say it. Dare I say I utter it this way sometimes, too. :cuss Incidentally, it's also how it's pronounced by Konrad Curze/Night Haunter in "The Dark King" (the Horus Heresy audio short story about the Night Haunter) and by Rogal Dorn in "The Lightning Tower" (the Horus Heresy audio short story about Rogal Dorn). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 No, sir. Lorgar looks exactly the same as he does on the cover of The Primarchs and Aurelian - the only difference is his armour is red, as the Word Bearers changed their colours. Angron is wearing pretty much exactly the same stuff as on Tales of Heresy, The Primarchs, and John Blanche's original sketch of him. http://aarondembskibowden.wordpress.com/20...on-suggestions/. The only real difference is that we're seeing the Butcher's Nails better. Ah fair enough! :( I must admit that Lorgar and Dorn look awesome on the cover of the Primarchs, definately the stand out pair, not a fan of the Imperial Eagle attached to Dorns armour though, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Only just noticed that not only do these poor Ultramarines have to deal with two primarchs (with Angron being quite enough anyway!) but there are three anti-infantry warhounds bounding up from the left as well! What is the Ultramarine on the right saying to his brother? I'm going with: "ohh snap this can't end well..." Looks like the Warhounds are shooting the Word Bearers to me. More conspiracies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Gill-eh-mun. Sounds less french. Bingo. It sounds pretty close to how I say it. Dare I say I utter it this way sometimes, too. :) I actually say/read it that way specifically because it sounds French to me, I pronounce Roboute as "Row-byou," Sanguinius by adding 'ee-us' to 'sanguine' and shifting the focus from 'san' to 'guin,' "san-GWIN-ee-us." Worst pronunciation I ever heard was for Leman Russ, which one guy pronounces it like Lemon Rust. LAYZ-gun doesn't bother me too much, though I do prefer LAZZ-gun. As to the topic at hand, I have to admit that at first the picture really bothered me. Two Ultramarines flying through the air with a single blow? More blood in the air than could possibly have come from such wounds? Massively disappointed in this. Then I realized it was Lorgar, and not Khârn. And suddenly I was okay with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Only just noticed that not only do these poor Ultramarines have to deal with two primarchs (with Angron being quite enough anyway!) but there are three anti-infantry warhounds bounding up from the left as well! What is the Ultramarine on the right saying to his brother? I'm going with: "ohh snap this can't end well..." Looks like the Warhounds are shooting the Word Bearers to me. More conspiracies? If you look closely the Warhounds appear to be in the same colours as the Word Bearers. I think they are probably shooting at the Ultramarines just in front of the Word Bearers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Only just noticed that not only do these poor Ultramarines have to deal with two primarchs (with Angron being quite enough anyway!) but there are three anti-infantry warhounds bounding up from the left as well! What is the Ultramarine on the right saying to his brother? I'm going with: "ohh snap this can't end well..." Looks like the Warhounds are shooting the Word Bearers to me. More conspiracies? If you look closely the Warhounds appear to be in the same colours as the Word Bearers. I think they are probably shooting at the Ultramarines just in front of the Word Bearers. However, if you look at the two closest Word Bearers, they look like Val Gorbak (or whatever, I'm sure that's wrong. Argel Tal's lot). One of them has a daemonic looking head. Red head/helmet, shoulderpads, but Ultramarine blue everywhere else. Haven't read the book yet, so I don't know if there was any attempts to "infiltrate" the Ultramarines or at least confuse them for a second. I said that jokingly, the infiltration part, but I'm actually greatly amused by the idea of mutated Word Bearers trying to Alpha Legion their way into the Ultramarines, and failing hard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3030928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 These are not the Word Bearers you are looking for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 As George Michael once sang, "I think I need a Ro-booty-booty" I honestly can't read about him (even in KNF, which redeemed the Ultras somewhat for me) without imagining his name as Rowboat Girlyman. I also think of Angron as Angry Ron and Perturabo as Petulant Bro, so the problem is probably mine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I also think of Angron as Angry Ron and Perturabo as Petulant Bro, so the problem is probably mine. That does actually kind of sum them up, though in a rather negative light for Perturabo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 It's a little too flat really. I think the motivations of each of the Primarchs is going to be fairly deep, at least pre-Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I honestly can't read about him (even in KNF, which redeemed the Ultras somewhat for me) without imagining his name as Rowboat Girlyman. I always think of him as girlyman, although I try to pronounce it ga-la-man. I also think of Angron as Angry Ron and Perturabo as Petulant Bro, so the problem is probably mine. Haha, nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Why would you artificially insert an "r" into his name? There's not even an "a" at the first part of his name which might suggest a similar sound? If you (like me) are unsure on how to pronounce something, use the phonetic pronounciation since it is either right or people can tell what you're trying to say. I do it all the time with 40k since many words are corrupted plays on foreign words. Many English speakers struggle with non-english words in text if they've never came across with them (blame our education system!) Still, Angron is an easier name for me to pronounce as it is short and not much you can interpret about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I find it rather funny that the names of Britain-born 40K might actually be easier to pronounce for me (Portuguese) than those with English as their native language. Though Portuguese is said to be a difficult language to learn (which, judging by our high-school marks, is true even for those born here =p), it comes in very handy when trying a foreign language because it's very neutral in tone. That means we usually catch up on the pronounciation of foreign words pretty quickly, but will speak them devoid of the part that comes with the native accent. The drawback is that it's almost impossible for a person of another country to speak Portuguese without the accent being very noticeable. Easter Europeans are the exception (who also have neutral languages), to my knowledge. Once they get the language, you can have a hard time distinguishing them from a native Portuguese speaker. My take on Papa Blue's name would be Rowbout Gillymahn. The "h" in the end is rather tricky, but I don't think you pronounce it "men", more like "mun", perhaps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsra Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I always thought the word "Guilliman" looked a bit french, and I think that doubble-L is pronounced "J", like in "maillot" (swimwear) -prononced "Majouh". That would give Guijiman. Hmmm.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I just say it Gul-lee-mon because since I have not seen a pronunciation guide and thanks to five hundred people speakin five hundred different language around me on a daily basis(Oh Disney World how I hate you!) I get pretty screwed up on phonetic pronunciation. Greyall, don't take this the wrong way but from what I hear, every country seems to have students failing their native language classes. I blame textiese. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Greyall, don't take this the wrong way but from what I hear, every country seems to have students failing their native language classes. I blame textiese. I know, mate, but it's a plight wherever it occurs. Not sure I understand what "textiese" means, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249759-betrayer/page/6/#findComment-3031401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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