KBA Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Thanks, Brothers! I owe you guys for being honest about the tabbard, so big thank you for that. Sometimes one can get lost in their own conversions and a little outside view is priceless. I think the alternative completes the look. If I ever find myself in Wales, Midnight Runner, Captain Korvidd and Captain Valek would rule the skies of whatever table we were allies upon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3439906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Eisenhorn Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Yeah, that's about the best thing I've ever seen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3439987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellChyld Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Great job mate! Had to say it again but this is definitely going in the inspiration folder to be reborn at a later date in the 8th legion!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3439989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Thanks brothers! Those comments mean a lot to me. No one should be afraid to take chances with bitz they'd rather not hack up if they've got an idea -- especially if, like me, you're not the best green stuff ninja around. Hold the hobby knife true, and keep the sweat rag handy! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3439999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 The pturges definitely look much better than the tabard did, and it's nice to see the result of some good feedback from other members. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3440103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3440283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalsyndrome Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 That's incredible. Good work; I'm jealous! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3440293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly_bear Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Wow.....AGAIN lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3440332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrender Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Very nice! Full of character, awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3441737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Throwing up a few WIP shots of a blue-tac'd marine that will be taking part in my diorama. It's not in line with the original idea that included xenos, but it will be interesting: stealthy RG sneaking up on a band of Word Bearers too caught up in their dogmatic primordial practices in the middle of the night http://imageshack.us/a/img577/8947/3lc8.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img24/5417/qyz6.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3445786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Just two quick comments/questions about that model for the diorama KBA: 1) (comment), in my opinion, the thigh is a little "weedy" looking- he looks a little gangly. Too skinny looking in the legs almost, are you going to bulk him up at all? Or use belt pouches/leg armor detail to detract from that? 2) (question) That helmet, is that from the Sevrin Loth honor guard pack? Cause if it is, you've definently sold me on buying one of those helmets- it's just plain menacing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3445863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly_bear Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Now that's a cool pose, seconded on the thighs though. Great work as always still fella Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3445870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Just two quick comments/questions about that model for the diorama KBA: 1) (comment), in my opinion, the thigh is a little "weedy" looking- he looks a little gangly. Too skinny looking in the legs almost, are you going to bulk him up at all? Or use belt pouches/leg armor detail to detract from that? 2) (question) That helmet, is that from the Sevrin Loth honor guard pack? Cause if it is, you've definently sold me on buying one of those helmets- it's just plain menacing. I do see what you're saying. I can try a couple things here and a couple things there, but this method of tru-scaling is largely either love or hate. And with the lack of knee pad to break it up in the corvus armor design, it makes things harder. To add to it, the forge world MKVI leg set is already much slender than the GW plastic counterparts. http://imageshack.us/a/img829/2812/8m1t.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img43/9676/pl4r.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img42/4227/e4vs.jpg http://imageshack.us/scaled/large/138/93sz.jpg And yup, the helmet is from the Loth set :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3445877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I'm not sure how to feel on the legs, either. It's kinda fitting and looks similar to some art of Space Marines, but not my preferred style of art- the sort that looks human by decreasing the bulk of the armor to a skin-tight size. The problem therefore is if and how it can be 'bulked out.' The first thought is the addition of tassets, but that might only exacerbate the problem by making everything below the mid-thigh look even skinnier. From there you would pretty much have to add small armor segments all the way down the legs to make it look right. Adding gear to the legs would probably create a similar problem. I dunno if the loincloth/tassel idea would work on this guy like it did the last one. It's also hard to tell just how awkward it is with the silhouette incomplete: bulking out the top with the pauldrons may or may not make it worse. Sooo, I got nothing, is more or less what I'm getting at Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3445889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Thanks for the honesty, guys! I might try what Veteran Sergeant did in his thread in which he actually added 1.5 mm of spacing to the waist to make the torso appear longer, and distract the eye from the legs. Time to cut! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3445895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 My preference for making marines look a little more physically accurate is to elongate the abdomen and thicken up their weedy thighs. Extending the legs without bulking them out replaces one odd aspect with another to my eye. All that aside, this guy is looking mean! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3445964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 You're murdering a gospel choir for your diorama? Great idea. It might be the angle and it's a very minor detail, but what do you think about tilting the hand towards the knife? Meaning having his fingers "pointing" at his other arm. It's just that from a frontal angle he seems to be about to pimp-slap a bunch of Legionnaires. Unless that's what you intend to do in which case I hereby declare you the Messiah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3446086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hahah thanks Greyall - as much as I want to be that genius, he's not that brazen. I'll work on the hand :). Yup, BCK, I think the torso mod will help along with the following: http://imageshack.us/a/img189/6531/ndwg.jpg Extending the legs at the thicker joints near the crotch instead of the already skinny mid-thigh is the smarter way to do things, and I feel like a complete idiot for not noticing this on Veteran Sergeant's blog! Now to clean them up/sand and add a plasticard spaced torso ontop :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3446478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldaron Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Your Raven Guard is very, very nice ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3446506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 Thanks Caldaron. Your Carcharodons are just the same :) Worked on another marine using the legs I made this morning. I added 1 mm of extra plasticard at the waist, and tried to hide it with gear. So far, I'm most happy with these proportions of the grunt guys I've made. He's a tall little bastard! I also hate blu-tac more than most blue things. Apologies for the poop photos, the lighting here isn't so great. Probably time I invested in a little photo booth... http://imageshack.us/a/img706/3882/3xuf.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img713/1807/g0cv.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img841/2414/rex4.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3446948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I...don't like it He came out far too reedy, I think. Do you really need a spacer in both the upper and lower legs? I almost feel like the lower legs without spacers would match the extended thighs just fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3447058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 *pulls out his hobby knife and takes a long hard look into the soul he knows it has* ..Lets go to work. Haha Yeah, I'll give that a shot. Really trying to find the sweet spot here. I don't like the marines as are out of the box, but I don't want them to be too lanky either. I've pretty well copied Veteran Sergeant's method to as is to the T, yet they are still coming in as off. Might be my style, might be the FW design, but I want to get it right without bulking out the thighs with my poor GS skill. I'm going to give Heinrich's method a shot as you said, and leave the shins alone :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3447122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 If I may be so bold as to post a pic of one of my in-progress Space Pups, it shows my thought on correcting the anatomy flaws that's a good compromise between amount of work and anatomical accuracy: http://i.imgur.com/p1xcsao.jpg A little height in the waist, and bigger thighs. Personally, I think the length of the marine legs is fine, for the most part. The weedy legs and arms always bothered me some, but with the shoulder pads on, you don't really notice how slender the upper arms are. And really, the GS work on the thighs is not that involved. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3447135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I think they look fine due to them matching normal human proportions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3447142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 I appreciate the pointers, BCK! I agree with the torso height, for sure. I've spacers in the most recent posted marine giving him some torso height, but as far as leaving the legs alone, I just can't. Not a fan of marine legs fresh from the box. http://imageshack.us/a/img17/2184/dr4y.jpg I think this may be a good compromise: 1 mm spacing in the torso, 1 mm spacing in the upper thigh :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273272-kbas-raven-guard-tearing-out-the-carpet-3-10-14/page/5/#findComment-3447145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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