Scars Episode XI Updated 16/10 (Spoilers)

[High MarshalGR]

Liking the portrayal of the Khan in this. Very interested in seeing how he finally makes the decision to join the Emperor/Loyalists.

 

 

I don't know why, but this always seemed a bit simple to me. Me thinks Khan was one of the Primarchs who embraced the vision of the Imperium in uniting humanity under it's banner, and the Emperor as the only being capable of achieving such a feat. I don't forget Khan and Horus were close, but I believe Khan was close to the man Horus was pre Heresy (he had a pretty different character before the Heresy) and not the man who throws a part of his Legion to die on Istvaan or proves that he isn't a man (as far as honour is worthy as a man's trait to begin with). 

Of course, while this is enough for me, I would also like to see how they present his decision in the fluff.

[Hyaenidae]

Not up on my Ancient Mongolian, but what is their culture's view on someone who kills their brother?

[GhostMalone]

considering the investigation currently on the way I think its not good.

kill your brother get scalped and then dipped in bronze or silver

[WarSpirit]

Love the resume up to now. On what i know the Khan was always portrayed as loyal to a fault to big E but now we see someone quite different and who seems to hold a grudge against daddy.

[b1soul]

I'm crossing my fingers for some sort of directo confrontation between Russ and Khan, as unlikely as that is. It would be a great match-up. 

[Marshal Rohr]

Ugh, I hope not. You'd have the SW Fans losing their minds if the Khan even came close to defending himself from the 'Executioner'. 

[Hyaenidae]

Or anybody else.

 

I actually pray that Alpharius/Omegron tangle with the Wolf, and lay his ass out. Just to hear the howling.

[Kol Saresk]

Now Khan and Daemon Angron, or White Scars versus Night Lords, that'd be something to see, provided it was done correctly.

[b1soul]

White Scars versus Night Lords

 

This happens on Terra

[Kasper_Hawser]

Were the Night Lords actually on Terra in force? I thought the new fluff is that they were tied up with the Lion and his Dark Angels.

 

Would the locations of the traitor legions be as follows as of the time of the Battle of Terra?:

 

Sons of Horus: Fighting in space and on the ground. (Terra)

Iron Warriors: Fighting on ground and besieging the palace (Terra)

World Eaters : Fighting on ground and besieging the palace (Terra)

Emperor's Children: Having a bloody orgy on Terra (Terra)

Night Lords: Thramas Crusade tieing up the Dark Angels

World Bearers: Majority was supposed to tie up the Ultramarines. However, if I read Betrayer correctly, it seems like after setting up the Ruinstorm to isolate the Realm of Ultramar, the Word Bearers and World Eaters then made haste for Terra, so The Word Bearers could be part of the main force on Terra as well.

Alpha Legion: Tieing up the White Scars and Space Wolves in another part of the galaxy. Assume that the Wolves continue the fight while Khan races to Terra in time.

Death Guard: All corrupted by Nurgle en route to Terra, therefore most likely part of the invasion force (Terra)

Thousand Sons: Not to sure on how they participated but since Magnus was more or less forced to become traitor, its quite likely what was left of the legion could have been on the ground on Terra.

[GhostMalone]

Talos and all the night lords were present on terra.

[SteelPaladin]

Sevatar had given the order to break up the Night Lords fleet just before the Dark Angels showed up to ruin their day(again). It seems like most of the fleet were able to break through the Dark Angels line, but who knows where each ship was headed. Some of the Kyroptera were eager to join Horus, others wanted to get revenge on the Dark Angels.

[Excessus]

Thousand Sons were at Terra, it's been in the story since old times. They were not numerous so they mostly took on supporting roles, like breaking the wards on the eternity gate and summoning legions of daemons, but they were fighting as well.

[Greyall]

At some point I'd like for the Khan and the Wolf to at least have a heart-to-heart talk. I don't know what Russ' stance is, but the Khan has a very shallow view of the Wolves. Of course he has to deal with "He also wears a pelt, this savage" prejudices, but one would think that he, as a deeper-than-it-shows man himself, would be able to see through Russ' fur.

 

I'm liking the Khan a lot, but he's immensely dangerous until he comes to the Loyalist side. He's deep, no doubt, but some extra broadness to his mind wouldn't hurt. He's aware of everything, but seems to simply shun whatever feels weird to him.

[Kasper_Hawser]

To Jaspcat, Steeel and Excessus, thanks for clarifying the location of the Night Lords and Thousand Sons during the Battle of Terra.

[Kol Saresk]

There were at least some Night Lords at Terra. It is unknown how many although at least Sevatar, the First Company and the Tenth Company were there.

 

Sevatar had given the order to break up the Night Lords fleet just before the Dark Angels showed up to ruin their day(again). It seems like most of the fleet were able to break through the Dark Angels line, but who knows where each ship was headed. Some of the Kyroptera were eager to join Horus, others wanted to get revenge on the Dark Angels.

Not exactly. The Kyroptera who wanted revenge, died at the beginning of the book, except for one person who was smart enough to escape the ambush.

 

As a result, Sevatar initiated six new Kyroptera members. He ordered that the Legion be broken down into six fleets and that each would be under the command of a single Kyroptera and they were to do whatever. The majority of the fleet present, actually got away because it was only a token force that stalled the Dark Angels and was, presumably, destroyed.

 

But no, I'm not talking about Terra. Considering all the fluff about the Night Lords that were at Terra has those Night Lords on, in or near the walls, they wouldn't be back far enough to fight the White Scars. So it'll have to be somewhere within the next five years of the Heresy.

[Greyall]

Didn't Malcharion kill a White Scar, an Imperial Fist and a Blood Angel?

[Unintentional Batman]

Didn't Malcharion kill a White Scar, an Imperial Fist and a Blood Angel?

 

Yeah, those are the three heroes he laid down during the Siege.

The Blood Angel survived as a dreadnought, though

 

[Emperor's Furor]

Wouldn't call them heroes, just officers. Heroes are people like Khârn, Sigismund etc.

[Greyall]

They were said to be of some renown, though. As was Malcharion. Remember, Orpheus of the Ultramarines was also a great hero and all he does

 

 

is get massacred by Angron

 

[Emperor's Furor]

Hmm maybe it's Efrid, Dorn's second adviser, the guy who shows up with him in Horus Rising. That's the only named guy I remember that's of any important, the others all survive the heresy.

[Greyall]

Lexicanum:

 

He went on to slay Xorumai Khan, swordmaster-captain of the White Scars 9th Company, Lethandrus the Templar, paladin of the Imperial Fists Legion, and Raguel the Sufferer, captain of the Blood Angels 7th Company, in a single day at the Siege of Terra.

 

No simple folk there =)

[Emperor's Furor]

Wouldn't say they were famous, I mean at least to us, kind of just figures created just for him to kill.

[Scribe]

Yeah but thats the point. Increasing the importance of the character, by highlighting that those he killed where not grunts on the front line, but named individuals with titles beyond just 'Bob, the Blood Angel guy'. 

[Kol Saresk]

But Bob was a hero. Single-handedly, he beat Abaddon to a standstill when they met at the wall. He slew an entire World Eaters sortie of one hundred and fifty Berzerkers with well-placed booby traps, after claiming the head of their champion with a plastic spork!

 

Killing a man like that would be a kill worth noting indeed.