cypherthefallenangel Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I don't know ... FRFSRF on hotshot lasguns might almost be too good. In the WD it does mention that FRFSRF works on the hellguns and look for it to be updated in the new ig codex. Also it states that in c: TM that there will be 6 new orders specifically for them. Good orders could make up for mediocre stats. Im hoping anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I hope the Guard get the option for Autocannon turrets on Chimeras (doubt it though as it was a FW turret and I don't even know if they still produce it). Interesting that this Schola Progenium codex is standalone, I wonder if the Guard dex will still have Storm Troopers in as elites. And GW re-released single heavy weapons teams? Hmm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I see they're up for pre order on the GW website. Man I am SO tempted to buy that $1000 one -click collection "Scion Expeditionary Force". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediction Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I wonder if the Scions can be attached to an Imperial Guard army as a special detachment much like the Inquisitorial detachment in Codex: Inquisition? I also wonder what will be filling up the Elite slots in the new codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I see they're up for pre order on the GW website. Man I am SO tempted to buy that $1000 one -click collection "Scion Expeditionary Force". Do eeeeet! But then trade away the Taurox'es. Lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 You know if I had the time I would -- looking at the sprue there'd be so many extra bitz in that collection that I could make back the money just by selling heads and guns at $1 a pop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I'll get a command box too, for all the biiiiiiiiiiiiiitttssssss! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Here's hoping the storm troopers have only been removed from the IG pages of the store so they can shift more C:Tempestuswhatsit and they'll be back in our Elites slot come C:AM's release. After all, do you think they're completely doing away with the Kasrkin? I like the Scion models but I'm not shelling out 30 quid on a codex so I can use one or two suicide-melta-deep strike units. Good to see more of the metals back up. Gaunt's and the Last Chancers, though I want my Mordian special and heavy weapons! :D Until I have my eC:AM I'm holding off on all purchases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I'll get a command box too, for all the biiiiiiiiiiiiiitttssssss! Actually it appears that the command box and the regular scion box are the same. A dual kit. Which means tons of leftover bitz if you just build a normal squad. Hence my prediction that there's probably $1000 worth of ebay sales in that "expeditionary force" one-click collection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 i'm not so sure, since anyone who buys 1-2 boxes of stormtroopers will have lots of stuff left Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3636861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 i'm not so sure, since anyone who buys 1-2 boxes of stormtroopers will have lots of stuff left True, but I'm sure there are people out there who would be interested in the beret heads (or the helmeted ones) who don't want anything else out of the scions box. There's always a market for plasma guns. Some people want a med kit without having to buy a scion or CCS kit, etc. Nevertheless, I crunched the numbers and my temptation is no more ... you don't save a single penny by purchasing that one-click collection. So what's the point? For those who will chide me saying, that is the case with all one-click collections, well, I guess so. Although I could swear when the Battle Conclave collection was out, it was actually $20 cheaper than buying the extra models. But I just added it up now to verify and it's exactly the same price as the individual models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3637076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I see a third path...remove the stormtroopers from C:IG, but leave kasrkin, and give them slightly different (weaker in C:IG) rules. Like no FRFSRF in C:IG, and three special weapons for storptroopers, two for kasrkin, and so on. Anyway, I'm glad I ordered a raftload of kasrkin before this pre-order went live. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3637126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Hew Hydra info! http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/03/astra-militarum-wyvern-new-imperial.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Faeit212+%28Faeit+212%29 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3637844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Aha! Dual kit and a... sort of artillery piece? For a moment I thought I had my Griffon, how cruel the fates are :P Maybe it will still be a good start for a conversion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3637905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 according to the linked post its the same mount, but only shorter barrels? sounds kind of lame IMO but i'll hold off to judging it untill we see some pictures Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3637991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Wyvern sounds terrible...two S4 AP6 small blasts with a few special rules for marginally less than a Griffon? I'll pass! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3638054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherthefallenangel Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Wyvern sounds terrible...two S4 AP6 small blasts with a few special rules for marginally less than a Griffon? I'll pass! Oh don't forget that they ignore cover. Hahahaha. Lame Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3638086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 And reroll to wound? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3638106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherthefallenangel Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 On the bright side. Ill still get a box or two for the hydra and maybe the Wyverns gun can be converted into griffon heavy mortars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3638263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Yeah, AP6 isn't something to write home about especially with the other true artillery pieces we get. It will fill a niche for a cheap filler unit though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3638497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 According to rumour, Orders will be in the next codex too (#cheer!#). Faeit (http://natfka.blogspot.jp/2014/03/take-aim-astra-militarum-orders.html) sayeth: 10 order cards Known orders include: "Take Aim": Gives the ordered unit Precision Shot"Smite At Will": Gives the ordered unit Split Fire"First Rank Second Rank": Ordered unit gains an additional attack with lasguns and hot-shot lasguns"Forwards for the Emperor" After shooting, ordered unit must run even if they can't normally"Move, Move, Move" Ordered unit must run, roll dice and use the highest."Suppressive Fire" Ordered unit's weapons have the pinning rule Here's hoping "Bring it down", "Fire on my target", "Get back in the fight" (particularly that one) and "Incoming" (not that I ever used it much) are also in there (yes, that would be more than 10 cards). "Forwards for the Emperor" seems to be Al'rahem's "Like the Wind!", no? I wonder if Orders will still be limited to non-vehicles. Hopefully not :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3638764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Orders are characterful so I'm glad they're staying (or rumoured to be). Doesn't look like they're doing too much with them but I like the sound of the new ones. Seem like they'll be useful as well as making sense. Suppressive fire could be very handy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3638781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The more rumors about the AM....er IG, I read the more I like what I am reading. The less changes to the format we have the happier I am. The IG has a core of mechanics that make it work and the few extra bitz don't hurt either. I am finding interest again. Most unexpected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3638794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 If these rumors pan out, I will be one happy Disloyalist! Even if it means that I need to build and then pay for voxcaster vets to make sure the orders work, being able to split fire the heavy weapon and the lasguns at the better targets sounds great! Also, the Hydra/Wyvern box is not a negative, but I'm looking for a plastic colossus box, GW :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3638841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Those look far too varied and interesting for a loyalist non-marine army. They must be once per game only or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279538-cig-rumours/page/20/#findComment-3639141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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