KrautScientist Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 Thanks for the feedback, everyone! :) Let me start by saying that, back when I started this project, I certainly didn't expect to end up with more than 35 WIP pictures for the base alone... Anyway, it goes without saying that the pose certainly wasn't finished, with the Marine just tacked together. Even so, all the elements I wanted were there, so I put the finishing touches on the right side of the base today: As you can see, the pose has been tweaked a bit. That being said, the model's still not glued at the hip (and the head remains a separate part as well), so I can always go back and make some final touches to make sure the alignment of the bolter matches Angron's final position. I did pay attention to make it look like the Ultramarine was still taking the time to carefully take aim, however, because it seems like such a XII legion thing to do: "Theoretical: There's a massive, angry red Daemon...thing charging right at me. Practical: Best shoot the hell out of it!" Tell you what, I almost find myself rooting for the little guy ;) @ Teetengee: Well, if it sits precisely in the gap between the vambrace and gaunlet, as it's supposed to, then I think the alignment would work out. I also doubt the arm si longer than before, since I shaved off a slice of forearm in order to make room for the new element. And since it's glued together, there's really no tweaking the arm without basically ruining it -- sorry! Is it supposed to be a bracelet type thing? I thought it was supposed to be part of the vambrace, if not, then the angle is of course fine. Oh yeah, I'm seeing it as some kind of separate wristband kind of thing that is worn over the armour. Hence the angle ;) Anyway, as always, let me know what you think! :) P.S. By the way, guys, I really appreciate the dozen or so likes I've been getting from various people just today, but I'd be even happier if those people were to comment on this thread ;) Brother Aiwass, Pearson73, Biohazard and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 The doomed Ultra still has an air of menace about him. Like he could still be dangerous but once Big Red is in place he's just going to become a doomed meat sack. I think you've nailed it with the minimal placement of Ultras. :tu: Andvarr A 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) When online, I'm not always able to comment because I'm @work But like everything so far. If anything, a nice touch would be add a small mountain of empy bolt casings near the dead marine and a couple amount near the vexillarius. I understand if you don't add spikes and skulls, as this part of the aquila is imperial ground, but some minor details like the shells and even the odd empty magazine may add some character to the vignette. Cheers! Edited August 30, 2016 by Maximvs Andvarr A and KrautScientist 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andvarr A Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Like lots of dakka used on the unstoppable....thing... Could painting a hellish glow between the aquilla on Angron's side of things? Show the Eldrich hell that's unfolding beneath his feet?? Crouching smurf; "Brother Callas Crichton, tossed his empty bolter magazine down, it's dull clatter fading in the heavy air as he slammed his last magazine into his bolter. His eyes could not beleive the monstrosity before him, and his mind railed at what once was an astartes, now a howling, raging architect of obliteration as the deliberate carnage but a prelude to the on-coming massacre. One of his squad lay with a smoking crater in the lens of his helm, the shot pulverising his head into mush. And as in battle, there was no time for lament for the dead. Only the heat and smell of the dead, and gunsmoke. There was very little time for reflection or revier, or remembrance. There was a sudden howl of pain, an inhuman scream that defied all comprehension. Except this scream was not from a man becoming a monster... ...Callas looked up from his fallen brother to see the thing, the creature that had once been an astartes tear Sergeant Hadran in half, disregarding him as little more than an insect bothering a bovine. There came a gutteral sound, a bitter laughter that seemed to echo all around, reverberate through Callas and through the broken aquilla beneath his feet. Hell had arrived...hell was real..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svartmetall Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'd be tempted to add some sort of big wound on the kneeling Smurf's leg, just so there's an explanation for why he's kneeling...plus it gives you n excuse to add MOAR BLUD to the scene :) Brother Aiwass and Andvarr A 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andvarr A Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'd be tempted to add some sort of big wound on the kneeling Smurf's leg, just so there's an explanation for why he's kneeling...plus it gives you n excuse to add MOAR BLUD to the scene :) There's never an excuse to add MOAR BLUD, I mean you don't want to... DECAPITATE THAT LOYALIST!!!! ...ahem.... Dantay VI 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Great looking base so far! I'm really looking forward to seeing the project completed :) Also, I'm hanging out to see you paint up some more HH World Eaters, particularly that amazing Chaplain ;) Andvarr A 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andvarr A Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Great looking base so far! I'm really looking forward to seeing the project completed :) Also, I'm hanging out to see you paint up some more HH World Eaters, particularly that amazing Chaplain ;) As it's pre codex days..would the chaplains be all in legion colours, or would something be painted black?? Like an arm...or shoulder pad?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 If I can suggest a name for any of the Marines I'd Suggest Dikaiopolis. I had to learn Ancient Greek in school and Dikaiopolis was the name of the main character in the textbook. I hated him, so seeing him ripped in half would be nice. Teetengee and Pearson73 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanist Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Just getting cooler, So whats the plan? Paint it all together or do the actual base first so Angron can be fixed in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Really nice work with the base diorama; shows the true aspect of the astartes to fight against the most horrific odds without wavering. I echo @Maximvs and would also suggest spent shell casings, magazines etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 That is coming together nicely. I am looking forward to seeing how the pain goes down on the base. Are you planning on having the ground around Big Red being changed by his presence? With the corruption it cause spreading across the aquilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Thanks a lot for the continuous stream of feedback and ideas, everyone! I really appreciate it! :) @ Biohazard: Cheers, buddy! :) I was actually surprised by the fact that two Ultramarines seem to be the maximum you can place on that huge aquila without losing any of the cool detail provided by the shattered ground. That being said, it does feel like a pretty balanced setup now, doesn't it? @ Maximvs: Fun fact: I actually thought about having some bolter magazines in front of the kneeling Astartes, to make it seem as though he had spread his remaining ammo out in front of him, in order to be able to quick-reload during the coming battle ;) I abandoned the idea for two reasons, thiugh: One, I don't really think bolter magazines would look much like anything on their own, so the effect probably wouldn't work. And there's also the fact that a stack of cartridges would have hinted at a protracted shootout, when I really picture the scene like this: Angron swoops in and kills the guy in the middle in passing (Vector Strike FTW! ;) ), then focuses on the squad leader/Centurion with the sword, tearing him apart. Then he turns around and prepares to charge at that pesky lone bolter Marine still taking potshots at him, all in half a minute, tops. That being said, featuring some spent shell casings is an excellent idea! I have now added some casings near both the fallen and the kneeling Marine. Thanks for the cool suggestion! @ Andvarr A & Thousand Eyes: I don't want some massive corruption spreading across the aquila, mostly because I think the most successful effect would be for both bases to slot together seamlessly, while the small base should also work on its own without seeming cut-off from a larger whole. And some creeping marks of corruption seem like they would run a risk of interfering with that effect. I do want to add some glow around the area where Angron's hoof touches the ground, though, to show how the flames created by the physical contact with his body are beginning to heat up the stone. @ Svartmetall: Sorry, mate, but I have to admit that I am going to be really careful with the blood: There'll be some blood around the legs of the leftmost Ultramarine, and some on the fallen Marine in the middle, but nothing too extreme. I find that too much blood invariably leads to a cartoony, somewhat puerile sense of escalation -- like we all used to paint red colour on the blades of our very first models, feeling really edgy and grown-up in the process? Anyway, it's an effect that's really easy to overdo, so I'll be careful. @ kizzdougs: Oh, we'll be getting back to those 30k World Eaters eventually, don't worry ;) Tell you what, why don't you start and I'll catch up to you later. After all, you still owe me that Bloodraver-based Rampager squad ;) @ Andvarr A: Regarding the Chaplain, while the official background says he shouldn't be in black, I really want him to be in black, as I loved that look on Poom's and Fabricator-General's Chaplains, so black it is ;) @ Mechanist: The plan is to focus on Angron's actual base first, although I will have to work on some steps beforehand to make sure both parts of the base fit together. The idea is to undercoat both parts black, then add grey sprapaint to the aquila, thereby giving it a basecoat and maybe even some pre-shading. And then I'll be working on the smaller part of the base first, I believe. Thousand Eyes, Brother Aiwass and Mechanist 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andvarr A Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Well there none cooler than black, especially when it's world eaters in black...it's like taking a badass and making him even more...badasser??? Is that even a context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Shouldn't there be a little spray over the stone as Angron swings about half a dying marine? Not necessarily a lot, but a bit here and there. Augustus b'Raass 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanist Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Shouldn't there be a little spray over the stone as Angron swings about half a dying marine? Not necessarily a lot, but a bit here and there. Marine blood clots crazy fast so you can get away without much blood even with both hearts going. I expect Kraut will have a few drips though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Yeah, I mean I'll obviously deal with it once I actually start painting... ;) Andvarr A, Teetengee, Mechanist and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andvarr A Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Yeah, I mean I'll obviously deal with it once I actually start painting... ;) Haha no pressure or anything hahaha KrautScientist 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 Alright, guys, with all of the conversion work and extra texture on Angron's display based finished, I headed outside today to add black undercoat to the right side of the base as well. And then both parts were sprayed with Army Painter Uniform Grey (a bit more carefully this time around): Now at first glance it might seem as though we were back to square one (the unpainted plastic), but upon closer examination, the grey works really well with the Liquid GS-based texture to create a slightly sandy, stony look on the aquila parts. There's also a slight shading effect on the areas that aren't part of the shattered aquila, as a consequence of focusing the grey spray on the actual stone. Now the fallen Astartes in the middle and the upper body of the guy on the right have been taken off for now, as they will be painted separately. Oh, and you should also be able to make out the shell casings I've added to the base! The next step will be to focus on Angron's part of the base, in order to finally finish the actual model: As always, let me know what you think! :) Brother Aiwass and Mechanist 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andvarr A Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Bloody hell Kraut...taking shape as expected...well done that man...can't wait for the splashes of colour to bring it alive before you add big beastie mcnasty to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Yes while it does look like you have gone back to bare plastics it is often the case that laying down a good foundation for models is very advantageous. Looking forward to seeing were you go with this and how it will look when Big Red stands on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Hero Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Looking good so far. Really taking shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I count 5 shell casings. Obviously the dead marine in the middle wasn't trigger happy and the remaining one is late to the party :lol: This is steadily taking character. Love your work Kraut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 So the final stage begins! Looking great already, MOAR please, Khorne demands MOAR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 Cheers, guys! :) Oh, and Maximvs: There are actually seven chell casings, all in all -- better count again ;) Anyway, here's an update on Angron's base. Take a look: These pictures show the base before the blood came on. Of particular interest is the following shot, showing the difference between the basecoated and the finished stone on the aquila: And here's the base with the blood in place: Next stop: The Lord of the XII Legion on his base. Until then, as always, let me know what you think! :) Brother Aiwass, vharing, Augustus b'Raass and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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