KrautScientist Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Thanks a lot for the positive feedback, people! Seems I've managed to fix the issue -- or are you lot just humouring me now? ;) Anyway, here are some better pictures, taken in daylight: Both the right arm and left hand have now been permanently glued on: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/2/11/686217-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Chosen%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dark%20Vengeance.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/2/11/686218-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Chosen%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dark%20Vengeance.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/2/11/686219-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Chosen%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dark%20Vengeance.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/2/11/686221-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Chosen%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dark%20Vengeance.JPG As for his backpack, that's basically a placeholder for now, but maybe one I might want to keep...? Anyway, here's a look at his back: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/2/11/686220-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Chosen%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dark%20Vengeance.JPG It's basically a standard CSM backpack with a piece of horse spine stuck on top -- a leftover from an earlier, ultimately discarded, build of my World Eaters Apothecary. I just stuck it on this guy out of the blue, but I kinda like the effect with the spine. I have to say I am not a huge fan of Kranon's original backpack -- it looks slightly too organic and Gigeresque to really fit the style of my army. And I like how the standard backpacks bulk out the model's silhouette -- but I am still very open to suggestions at this point, so shoot! ;) All in all, this is turning to be quite a squad of Chosen, don't you think? http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/2/11/686216-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Chosen%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dark%20Vengeance.JPG Which is funny, because I happen to have a lot of converted Chosen from the time before Dark Vengeance. Oh well... As always, let me know what you think! :) Urauloth 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Not humoring you in the slightest. Before he had a "HUGZ!" look to him. Now it looks like he ripped the head from an enemy and is using his sword to point out all the other easily rippable heads in close proximity to the rest his squad. The bros are looking like quite the coherent death squad. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly_bear Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Fantastic updates fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsavant Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I'd still get a knife out and tilt that right arm/wrist even further, almost vertical sword across the chest. Anyway, are you adding owt to the spine piece ? It just looks.....odd at the moment. A skull or something to top it off ? They are looking pretty unified as a squad now though, so keep at it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yeah, I would definitely want to see something atop the spine, or it removed, as right now it just looks odd to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 He feels too rigid to me, really. The two fully outstretched arms just don't look natural. The fact that he's looking straight ahead doesn't help. If he was looking down one arm or the other, it would give the pose a sense of purpose. It seems like you're going for the exultant-roar pose, but without being able to add any dynamism to his body like arching his back, tilting back his head, or a more aggressive pose of the legs, the only thing going in that direction are his arms. As a more minor technical note, turning his sword at such an inward angle seems to push his elbow up into a very painful looking position. The sort that elbows aren't suppose to take. :lol: Biohazard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skullz Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Not often that I like the "holding head in hand" build but I agree that in this particular case it was without a doubt the right choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yep vastly improved with the head in hand, good stuff :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 He feels too rigid to me, really. The two fully outstretched arms just don't look natural. The fact that he's looking straight ahead doesn't help. If he was looking down one arm or the other, it would give the pose a sense of purpose. It seems like you're going for the exultant-roar pose, but without being able to add any dynamism to his body like arching his back, tilting back his head, or a more aggressive pose of the legs, the only thing going in that direction are his arms. As a more minor technical note, turning his sword at such an inward angle seems to push his elbow up into a very painful looking position. The sort that elbows aren't suppose to take. Nah he's just about to toss that head down the stairs in front of all the horrified Slaanesh cultists. http://www.screeninsults.com/images/conan-the-barbarian-head-doom.JPG rednekkboss and Urauloth 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Ooops double-posted.Anyways i like the head too even if i thought the gun was fine. Edited February 12, 2015 by Battybattybats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Krannon is a tricky one to convert, I based my original Urkrathos on him and found a good pose for his sword hand was to tilt it back and rest it on his pauldron almost. That way it still looks 'at rest' while different from the original. Needs a bit of cut and shutting though. That head is awesome, pure and simple. Your conversions are always so characterful B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Cheers for the (mostly) positive feedback, people! I think this probably indicates that the model looks better now?! I'll be honest: There'll be no more changes to the model's pose. I realise that I could possibly do all kinds of amazing things, but I don't really want to ruin a piece I am basically happy with. @ OSS: I decided against that pose because I didn't want the sword to obscure all that excellent detail on the chest armour -- but you're right, it would look more like the artwork. @ Firepower: Hmm, I think we'll have to agree to disagree here: I don't think the pose is nearly as problematic as you describe. Plus that elbow of his is actually encased in a huge piece of elbow armour, which I think doesn't necessarily 100% mirror the actual angle of the elbow within it. It's hard to describe, but becomes more obvious when you see the arm in question up close. I've actually tried to mimic the pose of the right arm with my own right arm -- and with an actual sword, no less. And my elbow naturally moved into a position very similar to that on the model. I didn't even have to try. Disclaimer: To my knowledge, it's an entirely unremarkable, anatomically normal elbow that has never been broken or even dislocated and has served me without a hitch for the last 33 years. ;) The backpack may still be subject to change. I hear your demand for something to top off that spine, although I doubt it'll be a skull -- that may just end up looking a bit too tacky, even for a Chaos Lord Edited February 12, 2015 by KrautScientist Midnightmare and Augustus b'Raass 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Maybe a spike, since you already have an icon, or a chain. Maybe some sort of container/grail/vessel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 A hip-bone?;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barraka Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I think it looks spot on Kraut. Was in love with it before the head swapping from the plasma pistol, but I like the head just as much. Like the spine arching over his head as is also. Bring on the paint man! ( yay my name got updated ^,,,^ ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 that may just end up looking a bit too tacky, even for a Chaos Lord http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/TheRedFather/Forum%20Help/impossibru.png Although I'll settle for that little Khorne symbol hanging from the horns of the normal CSM kit's Khorne helmet. :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Hmm, I think there's a very real danger of the backpack ending up too tacky or drawing away attention from the rest of the model. I think I'll have to think about this a bit and see where the pieces land -- I may yet abandon the spine idea altogether. Anyway, we'll see. Meanwhile, I've gotten myself into a tight spot: With all of the buzz about Augustus' new hobby event, I jumped right in! And what better way to profit from such an event than to 1) finally force yourself to finish a model that you really want to see finished and 2) finally force somebody else to finish a model of theirs that you really want so see finished, right? ;) Towards that end, the esteemed Biohazard and I have entered a challenge to finally complete our respective World Eaters lords. Even though this only means one model to complete for either of us, it's still a biggie, because we've both spent ages finally coming up with the conversions for these guys. Anyway, here's what you can expect (We can also consider this the first official Augustus' Arena Update on this thread): I'll finally paint Lord Captain Lorimar, Master of the Hunt and Commander of the World Eaters' 4th assault company. This lovely chap: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/2/15/687210-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%27s%20Eternal%20Hunt.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/2/15/687211-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%27s%20Eternal%20Hunt.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/2/15/687212-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%27s%20Eternal%20Hunt.JPG The model will be finished until April 5th, at the latest. Actually, I hope I'll be quite a bit faster than that, but better safe than sorry, right? As for Biohazard, I challenged him to complete Lord Malek Deimos, Master of the World Eaters' 18th company: http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/Stovie_2006/Biohazards%20Worldeaters/15BC9598-309F-4E1F-A4C9-712F1D34D075.jpg Because I really, really want to see this amazing model in colour. So yeah, keep your fingers crossed for us ;) Eldrick Shadowblade, firestorm40k, Vesper and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Looking forward to seeing you guys get those models done, they both look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Awesome! Great that you're participating and with this model nonetheless! Both are really, really menacing. :tu: KrautScientist 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Cheers, guys! I am kinda excited for the outcome -- both on Biohazard's and my respective ends! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsavant Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 /breathes sigh of relief Thank God I haven't been dragged into this ! I've way too much on the back burner...... Good luck to the pair of you ! Biohazard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Looking forward to getting this guy finished. Game on brother. KrautScientist 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver fang Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 This is just a mind blowing level of awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Ideas stolen, inspiration achieved for when I get around to my next lot of foot sloggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrick Shadowblade Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Love the models. The krannon model w the head in fist is my favorite version, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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