++ The Murderers' Call - A Night Lords Community ++

[Warsmith Annüss]

Does anybody out there have a comparison shot of a Raptor/WT next the new CSM?

[Aztek]

Does anybody out there have a comparison shot of a Raptor/WT next the new CSM?

[MegaVolt87]

I don't like the new NL transfers, they are too similar to EC with positioning/layout etc. 

[Kain Mor]

Yeah I don't care for the new ”portrait view” skull and wings, I'm glad they still include the classic ”front view” transfers on the sheet.

[Warsmith Annüss]

Thanks, Aztek, but I was hoping for a side by side.

[Aztek]

Thanks, Aztek, but I was hoping for a side by side.

Sorry man :(

[Warsmith Annüss]

It's all good. I appreciate it.

[Midnight Brotherhood]

I use both, I don't have a pic to hand but they scale just fine. They don't look odd side by side at all. 

[Captain Incompetence]

Here's some quick comparison pictures to get an idea about the scale Thrall_Love. They're a bit smaller, but not truly noticeable on the tabletop.

 

 

[Gederas]

Yeah, the Raptors/Warp Talons kit is only marginally smaller, but the extra height from the rubble they're attached to hides it well.

 

In other news: this is a thing

 

The article for those who can't click the link:

In Midnight Clad: First Claw

 

 

Aaron Dembski-Bowden

[Aztek]

The guy did a lovely job. What Chainsword is that in the last picture?

[Gederas]

The guy did a lovely job. What Chainsword is that in the last picture?

Looks like a "heavy chainsword" (read: Early Eviscerator) from one of the Forge World upgrade packs

[GreaterChickenofTzeentch]

An interesting thought:

 

In addition to making our Legion Trait work somewhat better, Prey on the Weak might have another use.

 

Giving Chosen, Terminators, Plasma/Melta Raptors, or a heavily armed CSM Squad an Icon of Vengeance for 5pts might be worth it to ensure that they can nearly always use the Stratagem. +1 to hit is really nice for safe Plasma, for example. I wish Havocs could still take Icons.

[Warsmith Annüss]

Here's some quick comparison pictures to get an idea about the scale Thrall_Love. They're a bit smaller, but not truly noticeable on the tabletop.

 

 

That's perfect, thanks. They don't look bad at all.

[Ghorgul]

Only difference is the raptors have skipped leg day. Don't skip the leg day guys.

[MegaVolt87]

Raptors are more spindly/ lithe. It works, sure, BL and WE ones could be swole like the new havocs, but it still works.

[nusphigor]

Greetings traitorous rabble.
I am considering building a traitor astartes army (for the 5th time... ) and I am in between Night Lords and Alpha Legion.

However I wanted to ask you some things, if you might be so pervertly inclined to help me (even if its just so you can stab me in the back later  ).

Why would you recommend the Night Lords as a modeling project and a playing army?

How would you paint them? any tips on the colors and such?

 

I really hope you can help me with this.

Cheers!

[Captain Incompetence]

Why would you recommend the Night Lords as a modeling project and a playing army?

 

They're a fantastic legion if you enjoy making your models truly your own dudes. The fact that they adorn their armour with gruesome trophies opens up some really cool and not too difficulty options from glueing on skulls to greenstuffing flayed skin or adding chains with cut off body parts and helmets. It's all up to you to creature your own horror movie villains in miniature form. Ofcourse there's the trademark batwing helmets which you can try sculpting yourself if you're talented enough or have some spare parts lying around to stick unto some helmets.

 

How would you paint them? any tips on the colors and such?

 

This is something I'm personally struggling with myself, but that's mostly cause I'm experimenting too much with Vallejo and Scale75 colours and just never finding that perfect blue tone. However, if you're using Games Workshop's paints, the Warhammer Youtube channel has two video's on how to paint Night Lords. One for the base blue armour and one for adding the iconic lightning bolts, if you're inclined to add them.

[Midnight Brotherhood]

How would you paint them? any tips on the colors and such?

 

My Night Lords are the only army I prime in black (I use grey for every other force I own), I do the armour in kantor blue and nuln oil the recesses, then I highlight just armour panel edges, that works for me. I've got example in my gallery you can check out.

 

GW did release a specific Night Lords blue which I have heard is darker than Kantor blue and gets a more darker midnight type of blue like you see on the heresy era Night Lords. 

[Warsmith Annüss]

I'm going to use NL blue with nuln oil in the recesses.

[GreaterChickenofTzeentch]

Greetings traitorous rabble.

I am considering building a traitor astartes army (for the 5th time... ) and I am in between Night Lords and Alpha Legion.

However I wanted to ask you some things, if you might be so pervertly inclined to help me (even if its just so you can stab me in the back later  ).

 

Why would you recommend the Night Lords as a modeling project and a playing army?

How would you paint them? any tips on the colors and such?

 

I really hope you can help me with this.

Cheers!

I personally use Tamiya TS-50 Mica Blue spray, drybrushed with Runefang Steel and then filled back in in the larger areas. Gold or brass and Leadbelcher for the metals, with Nuln Oil in the cracks.

 

Kantor Blue or the new Night Lord Blue are great too, as others have said. However, I prefer just a bit more "glow," which you can see a bit on this Contemptor and Heldrake. The sloppiness of the white paint on the face when I use it is intentional to make it look like it was just daubed on in a brutal, half-crazed fashion.

 

I also tend to prefer smaller wings on my helms when I add them. The white fantasy model below is an undead knight from Reaper Miniatures that has a really great looking sparrow beak helm with wings that doesn't look out of place on Power Armor. The helm is available separately in the "Necropolis Weapon Set."

 

 

Hope that helps a little.

[MegaVolt87]

I'm going to use NL blue with nuln oil in the recesses.

 

You could also just wash the whole model with nuln then re-apply the NL blue leaving the Nuln in the recesses. I find that method faster than pin/recess washing myself overall. 

[Ghorgul]

Personally I base coat my models with GW Corax White Spray, then plug naturally shaded places and recesses with Drakenhof Nightshade.

 

Then I throw on top Vallejo Model Air Metallic Arctic Blue (71.071). Depending on thinning and how previous shading was done, one can do kind of gradient as this metallic blue coming on top of base white ends up looking brighter than the shaded parts.

 

Normally NL's golden trims I paint with coppery gold mix of Runefang Steel and Warplock Bronze, but something like Balthazar Gold probably works here too. Extremely light edge highlights with Runefang Steel on 'light sources' facing edges to enhance the metallic look. The coppery bronze/gold look enhances the dark gothic baroque 'vampire' aesthetic that I like for Night Lords. The old dark blue + bright gold is surely nice, but little too cartoonish and also even unrealistic for my tastes. NL are supposed to be somewhat stealth specialists, I don't know how that will work out if they prance around in bright gold trims looking evil mini Custodes.

 

Finish up with painting lightnings and eyes with typical gradient techniques. Surfaces and edges close to the lightning I highlight more with heavier Runefang Steel. Also the highlights happen all at the end, so the process above is not in exact order described.

All in all this is relatively simple painting scheme, and best part is you can quickly paint up minis to passable tabletop quality but then keep coming back to them adding the lightnings and edge highlights. I use brush, obviously airbrush would be extremely fast for the tabletop quality, but I don't own one myself.

 

Also note that my paint scheme is heavy copy and slightly modified version from the one in this blog:
https://www.legiotraitoris.co.uk/2019/01/horus-heresy-establishment-of.html

 

Personally I hate Black basecoat because it just ruins the colors coming on top, this is probably in my head, but the colors just come out as dull. I'm sure black base works with the traditional matte edge highlight heavy contrasting style how GW models are typically painted.

[Warsmith Annüss]

 

I'm going to use NL blue with nuln oil in the recesses.

 

You could also just wash the whole model with nuln then re-apply the NL blue leaving the Nuln in the recesses. I find that method faster than pin/recess washing myself overall.

I had planned on doing this next time.

[Marshal Loss]

If you have an airbrush, spray a really dark blue, then use a translucent ultramarine blue sort of colour - maybe with a little bit of grey added - as a subtle zenithal highlight. I much prefer this kind of subtle look to the GW style when it comes to NLs.