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Yeah, the Avenger would really step on the toes of the Quad Heavy Bolter - the Grendel is basically a mobile support weapon platform. Plus, its supposed to be from early in the great crusade, so it's not the most advanced vehicle - if you really think about it, for each version you can easily take a better alternative.- it's open topped & not super heavily armored.

 

The Land Raider Achilles is way better for the Thudd Gun; the Standard Predator has the same RoF for its autocannon, with longer range, better armour & sponson lascannons are better than the missiles; the Quad Heavy Bolter is kinda useless but it looks cool & you can get 2 laser destroyers + hardcore armour + transport capacity with the spartan.

 

When I write up some fluff for it, it'll have stuff about the Grendel gradually becoming less used as the Legions got more advanced vehicles - but its there for fluff & the rule of cool, plus it has a small niche nothing else occupies at the moment.

 

In terms of the avenger on the Sicaran: A, I dunno if it would actually fit properly on the turret, B the Sicaran is very new in terms of the timeline, so there aren't gonna be loads of variants, C - the accelerator autocannon, apart from being Heavy 6 rather than 7, has way better stats

 

Also, phase-plasma fusils are Mechanicum exclusive

 

When it comes down to it, fluff & balance are super important - they're the only reasons I do this stuff - if it doesn't 'feel' right, I won't make something about it

 

Thanks for the input though

 

[btw, I'm thinking of sticking a transport bay on the Grendel chassis, slightly like how the Solar Auxilia basilisk works, to make a 6 marine fast vehicle transport for small marine squads - like a very early razorback precursor]

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The idea of an autocannon firing krak missiles seems strange. What about AP autocannon shells with some kind of disadvantage? Perhaps limited supply or a chance of wearing out the barrel, meaning that next turn it can't shoot? Or perhaps it just can't fire ordinary shells anymore and the AP ones have a slower rate of fire?
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The idea of an autocannon firing krak missiles seems strange. What about AP autocannon shells with some kind of disadvantage? Perhaps limited supply or a chance of wearing out the barrel, meaning that next turn it can't shoot? Or perhaps it just can't fire ordinary shells anymore and the AP ones have a slower rate of fire?

 

Its actually based on a relatively common feature of modern MBT main guns, which don't have rifling to enable them to launch anti-armour missiles as well as modified shells (e.g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT-11_Sniper ). The krak missiles used by Astartes seem to be approximately the correct size to be fired from a modified autocannon (it would have a slightly widened muzzle), and if normal autocannon shells were used, their range would be reduced as the lack of rifling would reduce their stability. 

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Bit late to this party but...this work is fantastic. .truly a joy to look through and read..

I love the amount of detail you have gone in to with this..

I have spent about an hour going through this post and reading how you go about making the images, especially the iron hand mock ups..I even had a go myself, I just cant do it lol..me and computers dont have a good relationship. .much respect to you!

Looking forward to seeing more from you and would like to ask at some point if you could make up a clan Kaargul breacher marine image (for me to steal haha)

Keep up the great work!

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The idea of an autocannon firing krak missiles seems strange. What about AP autocannon shells with some kind of disadvantage? Perhaps limited supply or a chance of wearing out the barrel, meaning that next turn it can't shoot? Or perhaps it just can't fire ordinary shells anymore and the AP ones have a slower rate of fire?

Its actually based on a relatively common feature of modern MBT main guns, which don't have rifling to enable them to launch anti-armour missiles as well as modified shells (e.g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT-11_Sniper ). The krak missiles used by Astartes seem to be approximately the correct size to be fired from a modified autocannon (it would have a slightly widened muzzle), and if normal autocannon shells were used, their range would be reduced as the lack of rifling would reduce their stability.

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So here he is: the final AL marine - Tactical with Nuncio Vox

Next I'll be starting work on dem AL vehicles

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He's got a different Vox pack for void ops, as that massive antennae would be kinda tricky to fit into void-ship corridors (what do you mean its totally just because the whole aerial wouldn't fit on the page I designed? blink.png )

Plus, here's an edit of the assault guy, because I preferred the black & white Harrowmaster insignia (having the bright version created too much contrast & didn't fit tonally) & I'd missed one of the molecular bonding studs

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Ahh dammit, stop it please! There are enough Legions which I want to collect already, don't add AL to the mix too!

 

Lovely stuff, of course, I reeeeally like those last two, although I kinda feel the vox's helmet seems somewhat odd on a MkIV armor... It's a great helmet, don't get me wrong, just feels like it'd be more suited on a MkIII suit...

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I hope you don't mind IHF, but I used some of the parts (helm mostly) to put together my own Iron Hands Comms Marine.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n64/UrzaTRi/BURRAKIS_COMMS_MARINE_zpsd95ae77b.png

I think I managed to get the Mk.2/3 Comms Backpack pretty much spot on! cool.png

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I hope you don't mind IHF, but I used some of the parts (helm mostly) to put together my own Iron Hands Comms Marine.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n64/UrzaTRi/BURRAKIS_COMMS_MARINE_zpsd95ae77b.png

I think I managed to get the Mk.2/3 Comms Backpack pretty much spot on! cool.png

Yeah, no worries - just so long as I can borrow the cog-tooth MK III pad trims you designed a while ago :P - I've been meaning to make some, put continually putting it off due to the amount of work they seem.

Good work with the pack thumbsup.gif

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Forgive me I'm going off track, but do you know of a chain symbol? My Word Bearers Chapter is called the Chapter of the Fractured Chain, it's a circular chain (like a necklace chain) but with a break it in at the top.

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Forgive me I'm going off track, but do you know of a chain symbol? My Word Bearers Chapter is called the Chapter of the Fractured Chain, it's a circular chain (like a necklace chain) but with a break it in at the top.

 

Hmmmm - there are a couple of chain-based insignia on the Alphas in Extermination, but they're really too small to use. There's also a crossed chain on the forearm of a World Eater Assault Marine from Betrayal, but your best bet is the looped chain on this guy's waist - it may not be an insignia, but its pretty high res, so you should be fine, and it'd take some editing, but its already a semi-circle.

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Cough*youshoulddoa1stlegionjetbikesquad*CoughCough

Sorry I had something stuck in the back of my throat tongue.png

Gah, why do people need to keep asking for specific stuff - I can't do everything y'know :P

The structure I'm currently pursuing is based around each of the 5 Orders, + the 2 Armoured Echelons. This means each will include stuff about their members, and also their opponents at the time of the Massacre, and their allies, which makes:

5th Order (current) - Alpha Legion & Legio Crucius

4th Order - Night Lords & Imperial Guard / Navy

3rd Order - White Scars (Order not present at Isstvan V)

2nd Order - Word Bearers & Death Guard

1st Order - Salamanders, Raven Guard, Iron Warriors, World Eater, Sons of Horus

1st Armoured Echelon - Mechanicum (Departed system before engagement)

2nd Armoured Echelon - Salamanders, Emperor's Children

However, I may be adding a 'notable campaigns' section, with brief details of campaigns during the Great Crusade alongside other Legions.

But there's a helluva lot to get through, so I'm not promising anything. Besides, if it isn't structured, then its disorder, and disorder is merely a synonym for Chaos - and we wouldn't want that, would we?

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